Top 5 in the world,opinions.

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I would say, Imo,in this order, kroc,tomac, musquin. Tg243,herlings. Edge to the top 3,knowing they have sx skills, but the last 2 could be moved higher.
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St Ann More 7/24/2016 8:08am
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20 pager and another AMA vs GP debate that always goes well...

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downard254 wrote:
Oh boy. Commence with operation 10 pager.
Hope not lol, they all are badazz. Just was thinking top 5, or even top 10. Current guys riding, because dungey wd be listed.
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You have Musquin in the top 5? No mention of Dungey or Febvre?

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Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
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RG1 wrote:
Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
That's a good top 5 but if were talking fastest.....no one is as fast as Tomac on a given day. It really needs to be a top 6 in no particular order.
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mxb2 7/24/2016 8:19am
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Tpog496 wrote:
You have Musquin in the top 5? No mention of Dungey or Febvre?
Just current dudes riding,rd5 would be top 5 easy. And hard to judge the gp guys, they don't do sx. I was going by combining both sx,mx. If it was just sx or mx the list would be different. Yes febvre is a stud. . I love both gp and American series.
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Tpog496 wrote:
You have Musquin in the top 5? No mention of Dungey or Febvre?
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Just current dudes riding,rd5 would be top 5 easy. And hard to judge the gp guys, they don't do sx. I was going by combining both...
Just current dudes riding,rd5 would be top 5 easy. And hard to judge the gp guys, they don't do sx. I was going by combining both sx,mx. If it was just sx or mx the list would be different. Yes febvre is a stud. . I love both gp and American series.
Well, they are not racing SX right now. So if you exclude injured riders, you have to exclude SX as well.
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RG1 7/24/2016 8:25am
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RG1 wrote:
Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
karsmakers wrote:
That's a good top 5 but if were talking fastest.....no one is as fast as Tomac on a given day. It really needs to be a...
That's a good top 5 but if were talking fastest.....no one is as fast as Tomac on a given day. It really needs to be a top 6 in no particular order.
On any given day yeah, he's probably the fastest in the world. But he can't sustain it, that's why he's not in my top 5, not consistent enough
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agn5009 7/24/2016 8:39am
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Right now, taking injuries into consideration: Roczen, Gajser, Tomac, Febvre, Webb.

Not including injuries: Roczen, Dungey, Gajser, Tomac, Herlings.
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RG1 wrote:
Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
karsmakers wrote:
That's a good top 5 but if were talking fastest.....no one is as fast as Tomac on a given day. It really needs to be a...
That's a good top 5 but if were talking fastest.....no one is as fast as Tomac on a given day. It really needs to be a top 6 in no particular order.
RG1 wrote:
On any given day yeah, he's probably the fastest in the world. But he can't sustain it, that's why he's not in my top 5, not...
On any given day yeah, he's probably the fastest in the world. But he can't sustain it, that's why he's not in my top 5, not consistent enough
He can sustain it. Ask ken how their 250 MX campaign went against each other. Eli made a huge change from Honda to Kawi. I'm predicting we will see a completely different Tomac next year.
Sandwarrior752 7/24/2016 8:41am
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My personal world top 5 right now in mx (eu & usa)
(no order)

Roczen
Tomac
Nagl
Febvre
Gajser

- I'd say Dungey belongs up there but right now he is injured... Same thing for Herlings, So i picked Nagl for right now Smile Since he just won the Loket GP with a 1 - 1!
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Currently, I would say: Roczen, Tomac, Dungey, Febvre, Herlings. And that's in no particular order.
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agn5009 wrote:
He can sustain it. Ask ken how their 250 MX campaign went against each other. Eli made a huge change from Honda to Kawi. I'm predicting...
He can sustain it. Ask ken how their 250 MX campaign went against each other. Eli made a huge change from Honda to Kawi. I'm predicting we will see a completely different Tomac next year.
That's getting on for 4 years ago now. Since then he's been unbelievable one day, kind of off the next. That unbelievable speed we see, he has yet to prove that he can sustain it. I've seen him numerous times have it one moto but not the next. Even if he can put some motos together, he takes so many risks riding like that, that eventually he crashes, as we saw last year. He needs to find a happy medium
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mxb2 wrote:
I would say, Imo,in this order, kroc,tomac, musquin. Tg243,herlings. Edge to the top 3,knowing they have sx skills, but the last 2 could be moved higher.
I would agree, but even though he is fast, and we know he's fast, I would never include Herlings until he races the premier class. I would definately not put him in front of RD5, AC222 or RF461, all national or world champions. I also wish SX was not even considered. As an American I'm getting absolutely sick of Supercross, wish they would get rid of it and add 5 or so MX rounds with a week off here or there. If SX was not in the winter, it would be the way of the dodo by now
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Sandwarrior752 wrote:
My personal world top 5 right now in mx (eu & usa) (no order) Roczen Tomac Nagl Febvre Gajser - I'd say Dungey belongs up there...
My personal world top 5 right now in mx (eu & usa)
(no order)

Roczen
Tomac
Nagl
Febvre
Gajser

- I'd say Dungey belongs up there but right now he is injured... Same thing for Herlings, So i picked Nagl for right now Smile Since he just won the Loket GP with a 1 - 1!
Ditto what he said^^^^
EnvyMedia 7/24/2016 9:07am
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MX:
Roczen
Dungey (consistency) or Tomac (speed)
Gajser
Febvre
Herlings (still has to "prove" himself with MXGP or 450 class competition)

SX:
Dungey
Roczen
Musquin
Tomac
Seely

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PastranaWho 7/24/2016 9:15am
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MX

Roczen
tim gajser
fevbre
tomac
dungey

lites/mx2

Herlings
webb
martin bros
ferrandis
savatgy
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Jimmy_Sloan 7/24/2016 9:59am
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RG1 wrote:
Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
Hopefully you don't think it goes in that order.
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RG1 wrote:
Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
Jimmy_Sloan wrote:
Hopefully you don't think it goes in that order.
MX only, I think it does

Gajser and Roczen speak for themselves, they're both comfortably winning. Herlings has won every moto except one that he has raced, and every overall. Febvre hasn't been far off Gajser, Dungey is the best American
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Motocross only:KR94,TG243,ET3,RF461, with the wildcard to Webb (he has proven he can run with RF461 on a 450 so why shouldn't he be here over Herlings)

Supercross only:Dungey,Roczen,Tomac,Musquin,Webb, Anderson (assuming all are healthy)
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With injuries: Roczen, gajser, tomac, febvre, musquin.
W/o injuries: roczen, dungey, gajser, tomac, febvre.
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Roczen
Gajser
Tomac
Fevbre
Herlings

Dungey and Caroli would be a close 6th/7th
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KennyT 7/24/2016 10:22am
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RG1 wrote:
Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
Could go back n forth on this all day. I think you put together a pretty legitimate list that would be hard to make any changes

Tomac is way too inconsistent from track to track. Webb is too immature but he could be top of the list in a few years.
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Jimmy_Sloan 7/24/2016 10:26am
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RG1 wrote:
MX only, I think it does Gajser and Roczen speak for themselves, they're both comfortably winning. Herlings has won every moto except one that he has...
MX only, I think it does

Gajser and Roczen speak for themselves, they're both comfortably winning. Herlings has won every moto except one that he has raced, and every overall. Febvre hasn't been far off Gajser, Dungey is the best American
And what justification do you have for putting Gajser, Frebvre, and Herlings ahead of Dungey who has three 450 mx titles and is in the top three for all time 450 mx wins? Dungey has beat Roczen plenty of times outdoors, and before he was injured was pretty close to speed with Roczen.
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RG1 7/24/2016 10:35am
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RG1 wrote:
MX only, I think it does Gajser and Roczen speak for themselves, they're both comfortably winning. Herlings has won every moto except one that he has...
MX only, I think it does

Gajser and Roczen speak for themselves, they're both comfortably winning. Herlings has won every moto except one that he has raced, and every overall. Febvre hasn't been far off Gajser, Dungey is the best American
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And what justification do you have for putting Gajser, Frebvre, and Herlings ahead of Dungey who has three 450 mx titles and is in the top...
And what justification do you have for putting Gajser, Frebvre, and Herlings ahead of Dungey who has three 450 mx titles and is in the top three for all time 450 mx wins? Dungey has beat Roczen plenty of times outdoors, and before he was injured was pretty close to speed with Roczen.
Hence why I said, right now, not all time. If we're talking over the last few years then sure
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Roczen
Herlings
Gajser
Febvre
Dungey

Outdoors only ,

Roczen.. World and AMA champ. Currently leading AMA
Herlings.. 2 time world champion, if you have seen him ride , its a no brainer , if you havent , you need to
Gajser , World Champ and Leading World Champs now
Febvre World Champ.
Dungey AMA champ.

In a race with those 5 , any given day , anyone can win, anyone can be 5th .
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Tomac
Webb
Roczen
A. Martin
Gajser

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RG1 wrote:
Right now if we're talking MX only, as that's the only comparison we can really make:

Roczen
Gajser
Herlings
Febvre
Dungey
Jimmy_Sloan wrote:
Hopefully you don't think it goes in that order.
RG1 wrote:
MX only, I think it does Gajser and Roczen speak for themselves, they're both comfortably winning. Herlings has won every moto except one that he has...
MX only, I think it does

Gajser and Roczen speak for themselves, they're both comfortably winning. Herlings has won every moto except one that he has raced, and every overall. Febvre hasn't been far off Gajser, Dungey is the best American
May depend on the venue also . On an AMA track I think Dungey would beat Gajser or Febvre . On a GP track not so much .

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