Tomac was better last year

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Derpin' DJ 8/19/2017 6:26pm
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Tomac scored 498 points last year. This year, 439 so far, but best he can do now is 489.

So weird after how good he was in SX this year. Definitely seems to be the case of being a better chaser than leader.

If Dungey raced this summer, he would have gotten over 500 points for certain. But you wonder if Tomac would have elevated his game, or kept riding the way he has.
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agn5009 8/19/2017 6:41pm
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I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
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Johnny Ringo 8/19/2017 6:43pm
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agn5009 wrote:
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
And RV would be leading if he didn't retire

let it go, let it go
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agn5009 8/19/2017 6:45pm
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agn5009 wrote:
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
And RV would be leading if he didn't retire

let it go, let it go
Probably. They were 2 of the best ever.
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JMR1976 8/19/2017 6:49pm
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Tomac was better on Honda.

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ledger 8/19/2017 7:29pm
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But what if James Stew ?..... Nevermind.
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cali11 8/19/2017 7:31pm
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agn5009 wrote:
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
And RV would be leading if he didn't retire

let it go, let it go
agn5009 wrote:
Probably. They were 2 of the best ever.
You have not watched much MX eh?
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agn5009 wrote:
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
And RV would be leading if he didn't retire

let it go, let it go
agn5009 wrote:
Probably. They were 2 of the best ever.
We definitely know this,it didnt take anyone to retire for RV to dominate!
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agn5009 8/19/2017 8:02pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
And RV would be leading if he didn't retire

let it go, let it go
agn5009 wrote:
Probably. They were 2 of the best ever.
cali11 wrote:
You have not watched much MX eh?
Eh, yeah I have. Apparently you haven't if you're gonna try and argue that Dungey and Villopoto weren't 2 of the best ever. Notice that I didn't say the 2 best ever, eh.

Eh.
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pilotdude 8/19/2017 8:05pm
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This is not true. I personally saw the 2016 Eli Tomac race the 2017 Eli Tomac in the Twilight Zone and the 2017 Eli was waaaay faster. The 2015 Tomac beat them both for a while but was unable to make any rounds after Colorado. The 2018 Eli Tomac was...well I actually can't talk about that part...Universal Law and all that.

True story.
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kzizok 8/19/2017 8:16pm
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pilotdude wrote:
This is not true. I personally saw the 2016 Eli Tomac race the 2017 Eli Tomac in the Twilight Zone and the 2017 Eli was waaaay...
This is not true. I personally saw the 2016 Eli Tomac race the 2017 Eli Tomac in the Twilight Zone and the 2017 Eli was waaaay faster. The 2015 Tomac beat them both for a while but was unable to make any rounds after Colorado. The 2018 Eli Tomac was...well I actually can't talk about that part...Universal Law and all that.

True story.
Im afraid this is lost on some people. Yet, they will still try to find an answer from broken logic.

One can paint an apple orange in color, but underneath, its still an apple being compared to an orange.
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Hut 8/19/2017 8:21pm
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Someone should make a flow chart for these threads? If Dungey is racing--> Is RV racing?---> The GOAT? Etc... Laughing
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51xc 8/19/2017 8:44pm
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tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap about a couple point less compared to last year.
ChristopherHitchens 8/19/2017 8:55pm
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kzizok wrote:
Im afraid this is lost on some people. Yet, they will still try to find an answer from broken logic. One can paint an apple orange...
Im afraid this is lost on some people. Yet, they will still try to find an answer from broken logic.

One can paint an apple orange in color, but underneath, its still an apple being compared to an orange.
So are you saying Tomac would be better on a Honda painted like a KTM?
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WCRider 8/19/2017 11:48pm
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Tomac scored 498 points last year. This year, 439 so far, but best he can do now is 489. So weird after how good he was...
Tomac scored 498 points last year. This year, 439 so far, but best he can do now is 489.

So weird after how good he was in SX this year. Definitely seems to be the case of being a better chaser than leader.

If Dungey raced this summer, he would have gotten over 500 points for certain. But you wonder if Tomac would have elevated his game, or kept riding the way he has.
No mechanical issue last year.
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Rowlands 8/20/2017 12:23am
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51xc wrote:
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap...
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap about a couple point less compared to last year.
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agn5009 wrote:
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
I have no doubt in my mind that Dungey would be leading this championship if he didn't retire.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
And RV would be leading if he didn't retire

let it go, let it go
It helps when RD has two mechanicals in one MX season....
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crusty_xx 8/20/2017 6:23am
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51xc wrote:
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap...
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap about a couple point less compared to last year.
I'm pretty sure the 2016 Tomac is in the 2017 Tomac's head

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51xc wrote:
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap...
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap about a couple point less compared to last year.
crusty_xx wrote:
I'm pretty sure the 2016 Tomac is in the 2017 Tomac's head
And some of the 2015 Tomas stuff is floating around in there. Hence Jekyll / Hyde.
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51xc wrote:
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap...
tomac just had his best sx season ever and is going to be a 450 mx champion next week. I bet he doesn't give a crap about a couple point less compared to last year.
Exactly
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Well, Js7 was better in 2008, Ryan Dungey was better in 2015. I can go on and on. I'm trying to think why are you losing sleep over Tomac being better last year than this year.
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agn5009 8/20/2017 7:37am
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If Tomac wins the championship he was better this year. Period.
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H4L 8/20/2017 8:24am
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I don't think he or his team cares about what happened last year. The focus is winning the championship this year in the next round for them. Hopefully it goes well for him & wins the championship.
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sozo 8/20/2017 9:31am
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agn5009 wrote:
If Tomac wins the championship he was better this year. Period.
If Tomac wins the championship he was better this year. Period.
Exactly
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sozo 8/20/2017 9:32am
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Again once he gets this behind him his approach for a championship may be less obvious

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