Tomac should just buy some off the shelf front brakes.

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Edited Date/Time 5/28/2017 1:31pm
WTF? Those discs made out of plastic or something?

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RhinoRider 5/27/2017 4:36pm
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1st Amendment wrote:
You can't put blame on the bike if he ran into someone
Twice in one year?

I didn't see him hit anyone. And if he did, they obviously need stronger discs.

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Front rotors arent exactly thick enough to not bend when slammed by 350lbs of another bike.
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Gandorlf 5/27/2017 4:38pm
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1st Amendment wrote:
You can't put blame on the bike if he ran into someone
What he wrote. Are there a type of brakes available that are invulnerable?

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RhinoRider 5/27/2017 4:54pm
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1st Amendment wrote:
You can't put blame on the bike if he ran into someone
Gandorlf wrote:
What he wrote. Are there a type of brakes available that are invulnerable?
Whatever the other scrappers run.

This happened twice in 1 year and cost basically a whole race, Again.
Those discs are junk. I call it as I see it.
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Ebs 5/27/2017 4:55pm
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Acidreamer wrote:
Front rotors arent exactly thick enough to not bend when slammed by 350lbs of another bike.
And in the land of carbon fiber this and titanium that, race teams wouldn't run them if there were.
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stangkag 5/27/2017 5:13pm
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Does anyone else always hear his brakes squeaking? That gets annoying im sure
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Swann 5/27/2017 5:46pm
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stangkag wrote:
Does anyone else always hear his brakes squeaking? That gets annoying im sure
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that.

"You can only go as fast as your front brake will allow" - Ricky Carmichael
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What I don't get, is if it was a bent rotor, why not swap the wheel? It would've taken just as long as it took them to do whatever they were doing. Or if it was a brake system problem, it's like 4 or 5 bolts to change it.
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stangkag 5/27/2017 5:53pm
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stangkag wrote:
Does anyone else always hear his brakes squeaking? That gets annoying im sure
Swann wrote:
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that. "You can only go as fast as your front brake will...
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that.

"You can only go as fast as your front brake will allow" - Ricky Carmichael
Just weird Tomacs bike seems to always be the one squeaking. I dont hear other riders bikes doing it all the time. I noticed the most in SX
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Cokeham23 wrote:
What I don't get, is if it was a bent rotor, why not swap the wheel? It would've taken just as long as it took them...
What I don't get, is if it was a bent rotor, why not swap the wheel? It would've taken just as long as it took them to do whatever they were doing. Or if it was a brake system problem, it's like 4 or 5 bolts to change it.
was thinking the same ....
2WheelsForTheMasses 5/27/2017 5:58pm
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It wasn't a bent rotor, they would not have sent him back out on bent rotor!

More then likely there was air in the front line and or the master cylinder had a mangled diaphragm or a seal could have gone. Either way, the mechanics were to quick to cut the front line! That is last case scenario, he was already out of the race...rip off the cover and throw a new brake on takes just a few minutes...he would have been able to make it back up, instead Eli is sent back out only to putt around the track for 30 minutes without a front brake
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stangkag wrote:
Does anyone else always hear his brakes squeaking? That gets annoying im sure
Swann wrote:
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that. "You can only go as fast as your front brake will...
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that.

"You can only go as fast as your front brake will allow" - Ricky Carmichael
stangkag wrote:
Just weird Tomacs bike seems to always be the one squeaking. I dont hear other riders bikes doing it all the time. I noticed the most...
Just weird Tomacs bike seems to always be the one squeaking. I dont hear other riders bikes doing it all the time. I noticed the most in SX
He does run it deep into the corners so maybe being so fast, he is hard on things.
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2WheelsForTheMasses wrote:
It wasn't a bent rotor, they would not have sent him back out on bent rotor! More then likely there was air in the front line...
It wasn't a bent rotor, they would not have sent him back out on bent rotor!

More then likely there was air in the front line and or the master cylinder had a mangled diaphragm or a seal could have gone. Either way, the mechanics were to quick to cut the front line! That is last case scenario, he was already out of the race...rip off the cover and throw a new brake on takes just a few minutes...he would have been able to make it back up, instead Eli is sent back out only to putt around the track for 30 minutes without a front brake
I agree with it probably not being a bent rotor but he did make it all the way into 2 points without a brake!
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Probably a combination of both bent rotors and a master cylinder problem.
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When they were showing Christian Craig's helmet cam, I thought I saw someone swerve into Tomac on the first sweeping turn. I haven't rewatched it so I could be wrong.
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stangkag 5/27/2017 6:07pm
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Good explanation Hut, makes sense

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gnarwhip 5/27/2017 6:08pm
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In two months, all the dbag KTM fans will say Musquin is faster than Tomac and deserves this title. Watch.
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stangkag wrote:
Does anyone else always hear his brakes squeaking? That gets annoying im sure
Swann wrote:
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that. "You can only go as fast as your front brake will...
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that.

"You can only go as fast as your front brake will allow" - Ricky Carmichael
stangkag wrote:
Just weird Tomacs bike seems to always be the one squeaking. I dont hear other riders bikes doing it all the time. I noticed the most...
Just weird Tomacs bike seems to always be the one squeaking. I dont hear other riders bikes doing it all the time. I noticed the most in SX
Wrong there was squeking all over the track today
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maybe some nice drum brakes.
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gnarwhip wrote:
In two months, all the dbag KTM fans will say Musquin is faster than Tomac and deserves this title. Watch.
Is bitterness a shtick or just your general way of going through life?
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71Fish 5/27/2017 6:29pm
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gnarwhip wrote:
In two months, all the dbag KTM fans will say Musquin is faster than Tomac and deserves this title. Watch.
And all the dbag Kawi fans will say Tomac would have won if only......Watch.
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gnarwhip wrote:
In two months, all the dbag KTM fans will say Musquin is faster than Tomac and deserves this title. Watch.
Haha it won't even take that long.
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2WheelsForTheMasses wrote:
It wasn't a bent rotor, they would not have sent him back out on bent rotor! More then likely there was air in the front line...
It wasn't a bent rotor, they would not have sent him back out on bent rotor!

More then likely there was air in the front line and or the master cylinder had a mangled diaphragm or a seal could have gone. Either way, the mechanics were to quick to cut the front line! That is last case scenario, he was already out of the race...rip off the cover and throw a new brake on takes just a few minutes...he would have been able to make it back up, instead Eli is sent back out only to putt around the track for 30 minutes without a front brake
I doubt it was air in the system, or a leak. His front wheel was locked.
Probably too much pressure. That happened to me once when I overfilled.
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cable 5/27/2017 7:19pm
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they knew what it was. stuck caliper? bent disk, would get you no brakes and keep going.
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RhinoRider 5/27/2017 7:26pm
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You can bend a disc back pretty straight out in the woods. Good enough to go just fine and still have a decent brake anyway.

If it was a bent disc, and they couldn't straighten it, the mechanic was unprepared.
1st Amendment 5/27/2017 7:48pm
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Swann wrote:
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that. "You can only go as fast as your front brake will...
That's because they are super hot. When you're racing, you don't notice things like that.

"You can only go as fast as your front brake will allow" - Ricky Carmichael
stangkag wrote:
Just weird Tomacs bike seems to always be the one squeaking. I dont hear other riders bikes doing it all the time. I noticed the most...
Just weird Tomacs bike seems to always be the one squeaking. I dont hear other riders bikes doing it all the time. I noticed the most in SX
Hut wrote:
He does run it deep into the corners so maybe being so fast, he is hard on things.
Ya that's probably it! He's so fast his equipment doesn't hold up. Smfh
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Hut 5/27/2017 7:52pm
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1st Amendment wrote:
Ya that's probably it! He's so fast his equipment doesn't hold up. Smfh
He was talking about Tomas's brakes squeaking. Tomac is harder on his front brake than anyone I can remember.

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