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How does Tom Vialle compare to Prado when it comes to dominating the MX2 class at this point in Vialle's career?
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crusty_xx 6/13/2021 1:11pm
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I guess we'll see after this year. In his 3rd full year Prado won the title by over 200 points despite missing a GP due to injury
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MyBobbym 6/13/2021 2:44pm
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Just by watching them both in person, who's better/faster?
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Prado is certainly faster. Vialle seems to be in so much control though. I could see a really great and consistent career from Vialle. I could also see Prado win multiple titles if he can stay healthy.

I think your questions are impossible to answer.
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Bidirella 6/13/2021 9:47pm
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The thing is with Vialle, he kind came out of nowhere and nobody expected this. He wasn’t the young blazing fast kind coming up and signed early by KTM like Herlings,Prado and more guys. He come under the radar, and went KTM signed him 2 years ago everybody was like WHAT? He only won one EMX250 moto in his home country and didn’t ride a GP before.

Look what happend that fast, he is already a world champion and has a good chance to repeat it.

Another crazy thing is, you can only repeat your MX2 title once, so if Vialle win this championship again this year, he needs to move up to MXGP at 19 or moving over to the US...
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MyBobbym 6/13/2021 11:03pm
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agn5008 wrote:
Prado is certainly faster. Vialle seems to be in so much control though. I could see a really great and consistent career from Vialle. I could...
Prado is certainly faster. Vialle seems to be in so much control though. I could see a really great and consistent career from Vialle. I could also see Prado win multiple titles if he can stay healthy.

I think your questions are impossible to answer.
That's a first for vital.... Sheesh. Impossible to answer you say?

I say Vialle.
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Motofinne 6/13/2021 11:34pm
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I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and he would have to if he wins this year again (he will unless he gets hurt).
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Motofinne wrote:
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and...
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and he would have to if he wins this year again (he will unless he gets hurt).
Just to play conspiracy theorist for a moment, do you think KTM bringing back a 250 effort might be linked to this? I know they have Vohland on the team now but seems like quite a big effort to make for just 1 kid and if they have a strong idea that Vialle will win the title then want to make a move over to the states then at least they would have 1 year under their belt running a 250 effort again so he could hit the ground running.

Would love to see him go to the states and bring KTM some 250 wins again after a long absence in that division
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Mega Racing 6/14/2021 12:33am
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If he wins then i see him going to the states! Which is what KTM USA needs. A top level rider. But id like to see him ride outdoors before a full sx campaign incase he gets wrecked. I dont think he is the next herlings but i think he could do as well as Marv has
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jemcee 6/14/2021 12:34am
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For me I'd say Prado has more speed and prob seems like he'll be more successful but Vialle isn't far behind..
It's just the dude (Vialle) is so calm and smooth he will probably be forever underrated by idiots like me
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Prado is Herlings-like - flashy, fast but often overdoes it on 450 and ends up on the ground & on the sidelines.
Vialle is Jonass-like - calm, collected, constant (diesel-like) but on 450 there is majority of riders in field like that.
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Last Braaap wrote:
Prado is Herlings-like - flashy, fast but often overdoes it on 450 and ends up on the ground & on the sidelines. Vialle is Jonass-like -...
Prado is Herlings-like - flashy, fast but often overdoes it on 450 and ends up on the ground & on the sidelines.
Vialle is Jonass-like - calm, collected, constant (diesel-like) but on 450 there is majority of riders in field like that.
Hmmmm, to me Prado on a 250 wasnt Herlings-like as in overdoing stuff. To me he was much more mature as in just bring it home, no need to win it by 1 minute.

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Motofinne wrote:
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and...
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and he would have to if he wins this year again (he will unless he gets hurt).
Not in the plan right now.
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To me Prado was on a very high level early in his mx2 days. Vialle was not as good as Prado in his mx2 debut but he is constantly improving each season. I don’t think he is far off from Prado’s peak in mx2 currently.
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MyBobbym 6/14/2021 10:15am
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cappelmans wrote:
To me Prado was on a very high level early in his mx2 days. Vialle was not as good as Prado in his mx2 debut but...
To me Prado was on a very high level early in his mx2 days. Vialle was not as good as Prado in his mx2 debut but he is constantly improving each season. I don’t think he is far off from Prado’s peak in mx2 currently.
Damn near every holeshot too.
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philG 6/14/2021 11:33am
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Vialle isnt as good as Prado IMO , but that doesnt mean he wont be at some point.

MX2 isnt as strong this season, Watson and TKO have gone , Geerts looks like he is in trouble, and while i didnt expect him to win last year , he was more than good enough.

I dont see anyone being good enough this year, but this is why we race...
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Motofinne wrote:
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and...
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and he would have to if he wins this year again (he will unless he gets hurt).
Vialle is older than Prado, and 2021 is most likely the last year for Cairoli. He would be perfect replacement for KTM. So, moving to US next year? Dunno, But on the other hand, US KTM 250 effort needs desperately someone, who can fight for wins, and titles.
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Motofinne wrote:
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and...
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and he would have to if he wins this year again (he will unless he gets hurt).
He said if he is champion again, next year he is on a 450.
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Motofinne 6/14/2021 12:58pm
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Motofinne wrote:
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and...
I could see him going to USA next year. He doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to move up to the 450 yet, and he would have to if he wins this year again (he will unless he gets hurt).
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He said if he is champion again, next year he is on a 450.
Aaah, ok i have somehow missed that! Either way, i think it would be cool to see him go to USA and give it a shot!
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keinz 6/14/2021 1:29pm
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philG wrote:
Vialle isnt as good as Prado IMO , but that doesnt mean he wont be at some point. MX2 isnt as strong this season, Watson and...
Vialle isnt as good as Prado IMO , but that doesnt mean he wont be at some point.

MX2 isnt as strong this season, Watson and TKO have gone , Geerts looks like he is in trouble, and while i didnt expect him to win last year , he was more than good enough.

I dont see anyone being good enough this year, but this is why we race...
MX2 isn't as strong this season, because Watson, and TKO have gone?
In 2020 overall points standings Watson was fifth and TKO was sixth. It doesn't seem to me that the absence of these two has weakened the MX2 by any mean
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visser62 6/14/2021 1:51pm
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I'd love to see Vialle in the United States. With his smooth style and ability to avoid injury, I have to think he'd learn SX pretty well. That said, if I was him I'd go chase glory in MXGP.
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karsmakers 6/14/2021 2:00pm
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I'm starting to think KTM could sign my fat ass and even I could holeshot the MX2 class. Those KTM's are amazing bikes in MX2
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Dirt_Dawg 6/14/2021 3:48pm
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Is geerts hurt? not a good start to the season.
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Up Wind 6/14/2021 11:39pm
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MyBobbym wrote:
Just by watching them both in person, who's better/faster?
They get lapped in SX. Thats how fast.
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philG wrote:
Vialle isnt as good as Prado IMO , but that doesnt mean he wont be at some point. MX2 isnt as strong this season, Watson and...
Vialle isnt as good as Prado IMO , but that doesnt mean he wont be at some point.

MX2 isnt as strong this season, Watson and TKO have gone , Geerts looks like he is in trouble, and while i didnt expect him to win last year , he was more than good enough.

I dont see anyone being good enough this year, but this is why we race...
keinz wrote:
MX2 isn't as strong this season, because Watson, and TKO have gone? In 2020 overall points standings Watson was fifth and TKO was sixth. It doesn't...
MX2 isn't as strong this season, because Watson, and TKO have gone?
In 2020 overall points standings Watson was fifth and TKO was sixth. It doesn't seem to me that the absence of these two has weakened the MX2 by any mean
But these are young guns so they’re still improving in leaps year on year.
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roninho 6/15/2021 12:07am
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philG wrote:
Vialle isnt as good as Prado IMO , but that doesnt mean he wont be at some point. MX2 isnt as strong this season, Watson and...
Vialle isnt as good as Prado IMO , but that doesnt mean he wont be at some point.

MX2 isnt as strong this season, Watson and TKO have gone , Geerts looks like he is in trouble, and while i didnt expect him to win last year , he was more than good enough.

I dont see anyone being good enough this year, but this is why we race...
Hmmm seems like a strong statement that MX2 isnt as good as last year.
We are only missing the 5th and 6th in points compared to last year.

Sure if Geerts is seriously hurt then it looks like a walk in the park for Vialle, but imo that has more to do with him being very good then the class getting weaker.

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Boisramé, Bénistant, Geerts, Beaton, Renaux, VDM, Fernandez all have the speed to go with Vialle on some tracks. But it's hard to compete against such a good starter, who barely makes any mistakes. I spoke with him and his dad last week, they have no intention to go to US at the moment. the path is to follow Prado footsteps at KTM.
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MyBobbym wrote:
Just by watching them both in person, who's better/faster?
Up Wind wrote:
They get lapped in SX. Thats how fast.
Yeah. In hard enduro as well
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Prado is the faster rider and much more complete, have followed him since 65ccm, my son is the same age (now EMX 250) Vialle was not expensiv, has a good solid background (Father) and with the help from Factory KTM he has improved his Skills in a short time, Starts are the key for him and stay away from trouble
The Russian GP is knarly, was there in 2019 with my son, the Track is so fast and ii is so hot too, but its a Pro Track not Kindgarden, everbody who was there knows this. A nice Location with friendly people and a adventure for sure….Russia

You will see different Winners this year in both classes. the Hardpack Track favorites the french, spain and italian Riders.
Its a long season with different Tracks …this is MXGP you have to be good (not everytime the best) on all Surfaces.

Dont thing Vialle or Prado will go to the US, why should they? 222 will retire and 84 who knows.
One thing for shure, if they go, there will be other talented young riders and they will give their last to ride for KTM even for nothing in the first years ;-))

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