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With all the hulabaloo last week of Reed not doing the night show (and taking up a qualifying spot), is it time to make a rule change in SX/MX?
Even if you qualify for the night show/day show with your lap time and If there is some reason that you know you can't make it to the show, why not allow the racer to withdraw in advance and go to the next in line on the qualifying sheet?
I don't think there is any prize money involved for just making it into the night show is there?
This would keep the gate full and not have any DNS in the main show heats.
Yes/No?
Even if you qualify for the night show/day show with your lap time and If there is some reason that you know you can't make it to the show, why not allow the racer to withdraw in advance and go to the next in line on the qualifying sheet?
I don't think there is any prize money involved for just making it into the night show is there?
This would keep the gate full and not have any DNS in the main show heats.
Yes/No?
Empty GAYtes, whether it be in professional Supercross or Motocross, are
difficult for the common fan to comprehend, are counter-productive to the
spirit of competition in the sport of motocross, make for bad TV and,
should hereby be banned.
I like tuhtles.
The Shop
Solutions? FELD to pay out for the dropped rider and the add in or just add the guy in without the pay just to give the guy(s) opportunity in the night show?
LOL
In SX expand the field to 22 riders in both classes (that's the way it was in the 125 class forever) but keep the current points and purse payout that goes to 20 riders.
For MX it would require more communication so that some number of riders are identified as reserve riders for each of the National motos.
There is no reason why we can't have 40 riders on every National gate.
And maybe have daytime qualifiers again instead of timed practice, lots of people liked that better from what I have heard?
Maybe not hand out the bones, but, they could have put the bike/rider on the line. The race director could have gone to #3 in the LCQ and told him to be ready to line up if Chad's not going to show...just a thought.
1. If you can't make the main, withdraw and let the next LCQ guy come on the gate.
2. If you can't make the night show program, withdraw and let the next in qualifying lap times into the night program.
Works for me and I'm sure the racers would like it.
22 Per heat
top 9 to main rest to lcq
That leaves 26 riders for the LCQ - double row start?
If they take 10 from the heat Then you've got 24 riders for the lcq - double row start?.
If they take 11 from the heat, then they've got 0 riders for the lcq b/c the main will have a full gate.
So how would a rule or policy work here? I am all ears for outdoors (and I am sure SX would want to fix this loophole too), because a chance on the gate is too rare to pass up for most privateers.
DC
MX Sports
I'm jus' sayin'...
I'm jus' sayin'...
Pit Row
So how would a rule or policy work here? I am all ears for outdoors (and I am sure SX would want to fix this loophole too), because a chance on the gate is too rare to pass up for most privateers.
Just make it an alternate position, just like at LL's.
Make sure all the riders know that if they did not make a qualifying time for "the show", that they remain a possibility for the show as an alternate, starting with the next fastest qualifying time and so on. These alternates should be "ready to go" in case there is a spot for them.
If a rider makes a qualifying lap time and he can not for whatever reason (most likely, crashed later in the qualifying after his time was good enough to qualify, ala JLaw at Daytona, but could be mechanical issues) he must notify the track official (or whomever) no later than 15 minutes before the start of his heat. IMO, he should still get paid for qualifying though, I suppose that will have to be worked out as I don't see anyone withdrawing if the pay will be taken away. Whether or not the alternate gets paid is another matter.
Same for the getting into the mains. If a rider qualifies out of his heat for the main event and for whatever reason...same as above. The next person in the LCQ will be the alternate and so on.
I think it would be simple to implement and may make the racing for those last positions even better as even though they didn't make it out of the LCQ, they still have an outside shot.
There's plenty of time between 'TIMED PRACTICE' & "The Show"; therefore, your 15 minutes is OUT THE DOOR.
As to 'Give it a break'...
Look, Princess, your lack of knowledge in regards to "The Process" is almost as entertaining as your lack of a "Sense of Humor"; but, I digress, so...rant on, lil' man.
I'm jus' laffin'...
I don't like a cash fine for not reporting a withdrawal, proposed above by Team Green, for the pure fact that if a full privateer gets hurt, and only has a family member or something at the race they will be more worried about their rider then reporting his status for the next moto. Not to mention some of those guys may not be able to pay the fine and miss races because of it
If a qualified rider does inform officials in time that he wasn't going to make his race for whatever reason, maybe he gets half of the qualifying pay and the alternate gets the other half.
BTW DC, I replied back to your email a few days ago about Hangtown and haven't heard back from you.
I know the process well enough to know that a change can/should be made.
And sorry, it's important enough that I found your 5 posts in a row with the main theme being fine the guy for not withdrawing on the ridiculous side.
Why? Maybe it IS because Chad jus' wanted some 'Track-Time' since he was there...
Literally. Was he? Jus' there to "Gage" himself before he truly "Comes Back"? (Dallas).
2. This is the Web. You don't own a damn-thing: not even your "own" thread. Lighten up.
3. The Process? Go get the Daily-Schedule from Daytona: When did Chad last go out on the track? How much LATER did the "NIGHT" PROGRAM START? When did Mike call the AMA Official? Why didn't they "Formally" pull-out -or- why didn't the AMA take it upon themselves to get someone-else in there? Are we sure that they didn't?
4. It takes A LOT of money just to be entered and to get ot the track...shouldn't we look out for the "Privateers" best interests...including some Financial Penalties towards those that might, jus' might, be playing games on Race-Day?
2. I lighten up when someone doesn't take 5 posts in a row to get their point across, you do know where the "edit" button is right?
3. Is there a rule stating he must pull out and a rule stating the the AMA must put someone else there? Really has no bearing here.
4. Yep.
For outdoors announce at the riders meeting the the 41st to 46th (might need to be more) qualifiers have the option of being reserve riders for both motos Think there were there a National moto or two last year that only had around 35 riders on the gate for the second moto so am just using six riders as a starting point.
Have a time cut off requirement riders have to let the officials now they are not competing to allow time to contact the reserve riders they will be up the next moto.
If you are having a legitimate mechanical problem that can be fixed before the LCQ, inform the referee to hold your spot for the LCQ. If you can't make the LCQ, give it to the alternate also.
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