Thursday after Supercross at Glen Helen

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6/26/2020 8:29 AM

Checked one off the bucket list, it was my first time there. Great experience, got lucky that it was the biggest pro day in a few years.

Putting in laps was hard work, more difficult than I expected. Had a few sketchy moments on the biggest downhill, once forgot to turn on the gas, it died at the top, another time I somehow found a neutral. What a roller coaster ride going down that hill with a dead engine, needless to say I did not make the turn at the bottom either time.
I have never seen a track maintained like that, there must have been at least five guys full-time watering the pro track and three on the vet track all day, not just in the morning. It got nice and rutted in the corners and the whoops started to get deep, blew my hand off the bars once and decided not to push so hard. Texas does not have hills like that, that is a learning experience for sure.
Pros everywhere, MXA has a good article on it.
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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/26/2020 8:35 AM

Heck yeah! You lived one of my dreams!

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6/26/2020 8:42 AM

You can not fathom the hills until you've done them yourself. Doing it on minis was quite exciting back in the day. Awesome report!

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"A link is only as long as your longest strong chain"

6/26/2020 9:05 AM

dude thats badass.. and you got unreal conditions..

Everytime i am there it gets watered once in the morning and thats it.. No track prep either.. But honestly, thats why i likr it. i feel like it forces me to practice more skills rather than grip and rip..

Its also fun a on YZ270f blowin by dudes on 450's that say they need the power for the hills.

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6/26/2020 9:10 AM

Even more exciting is riding the hills at night!
I was fortunate enough to have that opportunity a few times at the 24 hour events.

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6/26/2020 9:20 AM

mx_563 wrote:

Even more exciting is riding the hills at night!
I was fortunate enough to have that opportunity a few times at the 24 hour events.

Funny thing about jumping off the top of Mt St Helens with lights, totally blind for what feels like an eternity lol

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"A link is only as long as your longest strong chain"

6/26/2020 9:25 AM

My pops was there and was stoked on the prep and everything.

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6/26/2020 9:25 AM

Stuntman949 wrote:

You can not fathom the hills until you've done them yourself. Doing it on minis was quite exciting back in the day. Awesome report!

I was totally shocked by the open practice, there was a kid on a minibike who went out ahead of me that could barely work the clutch, by the 1st hill he’ll he was done and off the track. There were groups of riders in training that would takeoff for hot laps together, it seems like most people would put in one hot lap and then stop

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/26/2020 9:59 AM

Showed up about 1pm yesterday and stayed until nearly 6. Not sure I've ever felt like such a squid before. I've ridden rough conditions at GH, but it took me nearly all day to figure it out and put in some clean (still slow) laps.

I was also being very careful not to hang up any of the pro guys, so I did retreat to the Vet track for a bit as well.

I'm beat up today haha... And I'm racing all weekend for the Trans Am event.

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James

6/26/2020 10:03 AM

Johnny Depp wrote:

I was totally shocked by the open practice, there was a kid on a minibike who went out ahead of me that could barely work the clutch, by the 1st hill he’ll he was done and off the track. There were groups of riders in training that would takeoff for hot laps together, it seems like most people would put in one hot lap and then stop

To your point, I'm pretty sure I did 1-2 laps at a time for the first few hours, until the crowd died down. It's something I haven't done since I was out of shape and 60 lbs heavier. I just didn't feel comfortable being in front of someone like Anderson, who has already had a shitty experience getting injured at practice there.

After I retreated to the vet track for a bit, I felt a lot better on the main and was able to string more laps together.

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James

6/26/2020 10:03 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/26/2020 10:05 AM

Welcome to the house of pain!...you won’t find anything like it anywhere else...neither will DC.
Now try Elsinore and Pala and see how they compare.

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6/26/2020 10:04 AM

Showing up to Glen Helen for the first time is a trip, no place like it anywhere in the world. Glad you got to spin a few laps!

If you're still around this weekend, you should line up for the Trans Am Vet Classic. Two days of Vet Class racing on a massive combined track.

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6/26/2020 10:09 AM

Good to see Thurman and his flow out there floating on privateer island!

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6/26/2020 10:13 AM

Good to see Glen Helen still allowing weekend warriors out there with Pros...

#NeverChangeGlenHelen

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6/26/2020 10:19 AM

BroFoSho wrote:

Good to see Glen Helen still allowing weekend warriors out there with Pros...

#NeverChangeGlenHelen

Or, good to see that pros keep showing up full well knowing it is an open practice day, as it has been for ages, and there is a risk there?

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James

6/26/2020 11:06 AM

Motoxdoc wrote:

Welcome to the house of pain!...you won’t find anything like it anywhere else...neither will DC.
Now try Elsinore and Pala and see how they compare.

I'd respectfully submit Cahuilla Creek MX before recommending someone go to either Elsinore or Pala.... :-D #CCMXLOCALS

Oh a side note: I rode Perris MX for the first time in 4 years Wednesday night and it was SLAMMED. Unreal how busy it was. Both Main and Vet track were so busy you'd have to sit trackside waiting for a spot to enter (well I didn't ride the vet but from looking over there it was busy busy also).

Tracks are hopping right now.

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6/26/2020 11:15 AM

seems like moto is really on an upclimb in USA right now ! everyone buys 110s and the big tarcks seems packed thats awesome. would love to live in CA in this time and age!

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6/26/2020 11:17 AM

Stuntman949 wrote:

You can not fathom the hills until you've done them yourself. Doing it on minis was quite exciting back in the day. Awesome report!

Johnny Depp wrote:

I was totally shocked by the open practice, there was a kid on a minibike who went out ahead of me that could barely work the clutch, by the 1st hill he’ll he was done and off the track. There were groups of riders in training that would takeoff for hot laps together, it seems like most people would put in one hot lap and then stop

SoCalMX70 wrote:

To your point, I'm pretty sure I did 1-2 laps at a time for the first few hours, until the crowd died down. It's something I haven't done since I was out of shape and 60 lbs heavier. I just didn't feel comfortable being in front of someone like Anderson, who has already had a shitty experience getting injured at practice there.

After I retreated to the vet track for a bit, I felt a lot better on the main and was able to string more laps together.

Wish I could have stayed longer, arrived around 10 and left about 3. Sure wish I had burned more gas, both of those tracks were challenging. I was surprised to find I was pitted in sand like the beach, there is almost no dirt there, without water it must really be tough. The sand moves around under you a lot and it takes a bit to get used to it. The ruts aren't solid like TX (Spoaks) but you can blow the top off of them easily.
The hills were made double difficult by having 180's at the bottom and top of most of them, requiring you to know what is on the other side and carry momentum through the corners to get a decent run at them, I got it wrong lots of times (feeling like a squid). Most of the whoops were not that big, but lots of them like waves and often when going downhill so tough to control your speed and front rear balance.

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/26/2020 11:34 AM

Motoxdoc wrote:

Welcome to the house of pain!...you won’t find anything like it anywhere else...neither will DC.
Now try Elsinore and Pala and see how they compare.

Alex.434 wrote:

I'd respectfully submit Cahuilla Creek MX before recommending someone go to either Elsinore or Pala.... :-D #CCMXLOCALS

Oh a side note: I rode Perris MX for the first time in 4 years Wednesday night and it was SLAMMED. Unreal how busy it was. Both Main and Vet track were so busy you'd have to sit trackside waiting for a spot to enter (well I didn't ride the vet but from looking over there it was busy busy also).

Tracks are hopping right now.

I was making a point of him trying the 3 options that we have for outdoor nationals...but yes, I would respectfully agree with Cahuilla and Perris before Pala and Elsinore.

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6/26/2020 11:57 AM

Glad you got to try GH, especially on a busy Thursday. Nothing like having a bunch of top AMA pros blast by and show you how its done. Not sure which layout they were using and it is often a shorter track for practice than for a big event. Still, you will def feel 5 laps at speed there.

The downhills are fun but if they over-water them can get a little sketchy. Never been too crazy about the Vet track but it's usually not in great shape when I've been on it. One of these days I'll try one of the REM races there when it is fully prepped.

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6/26/2020 12:09 PM

Stuntman949 wrote:

You can not fathom the hills until you've done them yourself. Doing it on minis was quite exciting back in the day. Awesome report!

Racing the vet nats is a dream of mine but not gonna lie the hills scare the hell out of me.
Nothing like that in Florida.

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6/26/2020 12:20 PM

Was Villopoto as fast as all the current pros? Wishful thinking but it would be awesome to see him do a round this year and see how he stacks up.

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6/26/2020 12:24 PM

CornflakeJackson wrote:

Was Villopoto as fast as all the current pros? Wishful thinking but it would be awesome to see him do a round this year and see how he stacks up.

Yes, I was trying to figure out who #2 on the Yamaha was that was shadowing CW2 for several laps, it took me a while to snap that it was Poto.

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/26/2020 12:24 PM

Stuntman949 wrote:

You can not fathom the hills until you've done them yourself. Doing it on minis was quite exciting back in the day. Awesome report!

makmcguire wrote:

Racing the vet nats is a dream of mine but not gonna lie the hills scare the hell out of me.
Nothing like that in Florida.

The downhills are the best place to put a pass on someone. If you do the Vets be on guard for that.

And there's nothing worse than blowing the bottom turn starting the uphills and having someone motor right on by. Take a smidge extra time to nail it right and get the best drive up the hill.

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6/26/2020 12:26 PM

Stuntman949 wrote:

You can not fathom the hills until you've done them yourself. Doing it on minis was quite exciting back in the day. Awesome report!

makmcguire wrote:

Racing the vet nats is a dream of mine but not gonna lie the hills scare the hell out of me.
Nothing like that in Florida.

To race there without a couple of days of practice would be futile for most. I felt like a fish out of water.

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/26/2020 12:28 PM

race wrote:

The downhills are the best place to put a pass on someone. If you do the Vets be on guard for that.

And there's nothing worse than blowing the bottom turn starting the uphills and having someone motor right on by. Take a smidge extra time to nail it right and get the best drive up the hill.

/\ This.

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/26/2020 12:43 PM

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/26/2020 2:22 PM

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6/26/2020 2:40 PM

BroFoSho wrote:

Good to see Glen Helen still allowing weekend warriors out there with Pros...

#NeverChangeGlenHelen

Sarcasm? I hate being out there with those guys. They can scare the shit out of you. They have otherworldly speed you can't imagine until they go by you like they can't even see you. Hell, some people on the REM track are at risk riding around me.

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The older I get, the faster I was.

6/26/2020 2:45 PM

Sweet bike!

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