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10/1/2012 6:01am
Let's face it, we got our asses handed to us today. We are a country that dwarfs most in size and resources, as well as population. That gives us a talent pool that is such an unfair advantage to pull from, that we really shouldnt ever lose a des Nations.
Maybe we sent the wrong crew? Would Bubba, Alessi, and Tomac have done better? Who is to say. It doesnt matter.
What this thread is about is the fact that it is total bullshit that the sports talent is split up into what really amounts to 4 or 5 classes over 3 different series.
MX1, MX2, SX1, SX2 West, SX2 East, AMA 450, AMA 250
MXdN is just a small sample of how entertaining this sport would be if we had one true premier championship. With all the talent, racing one international series for all the marbles.
It should be embarrassing to the people running this sport that we have things spread out like they are. Most every year the championship is boring about midway thru when half of the 3 or 4 guys that can win the title are already injured. If we had one championship with all the talent, you'd have over 10 guys in the class that could win on any given race day and you would never have a championship decided before it is finished much less be the snooze fest they usually end up being the final 4 or 5 races of the year.
It's just pathetic.
Imagine how much more exposure this sport could get if all the money spent on the various classes was channeled into promoting just one premier class.
Imagine having all these guys on the same line come 2013....
Cairoli
Reed
Dungey
Bubba
Canard
Barcia
Pourcel
Herlings
Roczen
Wilson
Alessi
DeSalle
Villopoto
Nagl
Paulin
Tomac
Bagget
and whomever else I forgot
Maybe we sent the wrong crew? Would Bubba, Alessi, and Tomac have done better? Who is to say. It doesnt matter.
What this thread is about is the fact that it is total bullshit that the sports talent is split up into what really amounts to 4 or 5 classes over 3 different series.
MX1, MX2, SX1, SX2 West, SX2 East, AMA 450, AMA 250
MXdN is just a small sample of how entertaining this sport would be if we had one true premier championship. With all the talent, racing one international series for all the marbles.
It should be embarrassing to the people running this sport that we have things spread out like they are. Most every year the championship is boring about midway thru when half of the 3 or 4 guys that can win the title are already injured. If we had one championship with all the talent, you'd have over 10 guys in the class that could win on any given race day and you would never have a championship decided before it is finished much less be the snooze fest they usually end up being the final 4 or 5 races of the year.
It's just pathetic.
Imagine how much more exposure this sport could get if all the money spent on the various classes was channeled into promoting just one premier class.
Imagine having all these guys on the same line come 2013....
Cairoli
Reed
Dungey
Bubba
Canard
Barcia
Pourcel
Herlings
Roczen
Wilson
Alessi
DeSalle
Villopoto
Nagl
Paulin
Tomac
Bagget
and whomever else I forgot
Oh and bring all your prize dollars with you.
The Shop
But if it's all sand tracks, I think the US would have a lot of catching up to do!
But if the sport is promoting the series well, the support should be there for everyone, 1st thru 30th.
Its a concept of promoting the sport equally rather than just the marquee teams or players. For example, a long time ago the NBA chose the other way to go with it and that difference in philosophy is why they arent half the industry that the NFL is.
MX spreads out its promotional resources over a bunch of series and then in those series it only focuses on a couple guys and there is no system of revenue sharing whatsoever. That is the complete opposite of how the worlds most successful sport operates.
We can do things the way successful people do them, or we can do them the other way. Which method does this sport probably fall under?
Leave the AMA to have its Nat'l championships, condense the Euro series and then actually call it that, the "Euro Championships". And then run a short 3 race late summer true world championships series.
It'll never happen. I know Im just bitching for the sake of it. But one can dream cant they?
I think the absolute worst argument I ever made on here was with mxking about the displacement rules. I was sooo wrong on that one. I really wish we had went to a 125- 250 (2 or 4 stroke) - 500 (2 or 4 stroke) structure.
I think ideally we'd see a few more regional series beef up. Make the current GP series a Euro championship. The current AMA series an "Americas" (north and south) championship, and build up an "Australasian" championship. 8-10 races each, then a 6-8 World Series in late summer/early fall. I think more riders might be able to actually make a living at the sport than if we cram everyone into one series.
never happen
Pit Row
It could be reality, we just have to get rid of the fat Italian.
Does anyone have a spare horses head ?
Monda cant believe your still beating the prize money drum. it's not 1985 anymore. I guess you think Leok, Dydyker & co all paid there entry fee also..
It will be a shame if herlings did leave to ride the AMA nationals, to think he has all that talent in the deep sand & will end up riding 'samey' flat out tracks.
What would be ideal if the G.P, got more main stream, more money could then be found by the teams. Aim for decent salaries to be paid right through the field. If it were possible to tempt the top US riders into the G.P, series then we would have a true world champs. could even hold a couple of rd's in states.
Prob is the US has a huge national series which pays the top guys very well. Unless the G.P.'s can grow then it wont change. Shame would be amazing.
The MX1 has had 7 different race winners this year, the british G.P, had 10 hours of live TV & a 4 day event. The series is venturing to new parts of the world & YS are giving travel subsidies next year for the non factory teams.
I do agree the G.P.'s need to grow more though & more riders need to be there. but your idea that paying 20th place a couple of grand & lose the live media is the way forward is the biggest joke.
As for the economics argument that FTE and others propose, there never will be if a true premier series doesnt exist.
And if you really add up all the money spent on the 5 different classes / 3 series when it comes to promotions, teams, etc.... There is more than enough to build a true premier championship.
But we will never see it happen. All the people involved have a nice lil setup where everyone is making money. Why shake up a good thing right? A true premier class/championship only benefits the sport itself and the true premier riders. It does NOTHING for the current administrations but hurts most of their bottom lines.
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