The whole 2 stroke vs 4 stroke thing..and my experiment.

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4/5/2010 2:34 PM

A couple weeks ago I put out a thread that said how much 2 strokes suck...
Then earlier today, I did pretty much the same.

This was all part of an experiment that I was doing. Do be honest with you guys, I could give a shit whether you ride 2 stroke, 4 stroke, or a freaking 3 stroke. Makes no difference to me. Do I love my 4 stroke? YES Did I love my 2 strokes? YES. Do I love riding regardless of how many "strokes" there are...HELL YES.

Back to the debate.

In the 2 threads that I made, I didn't call anybody any names. I wasn't over opinionated. I simply stated a couple of my thoughts about 2 stroke motorcycles.

YET, some of you take it so damn personal that I have been called names, my intelligence has been questioned, my speed on a bike is brought up.... Seriously guys, I wasn't insulting your mother for goodness sake.

LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP A BIT!!!!! And before you guys tell me I'm taking it too seriously...I realize that some of you are joking around with me..... but others seem to really have their feelings hurt that somebody (me) was talking bad about a 2 stroke motorcycle. Seriously.....

You like 2 strokes, he likes 4 strokes....you like bubba, he likes RC....you like SX, he likes MX... Are any of those differences worth getting into a pissing/name calling match?

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The message posted above is most likely my opinion and shouldn't be taken as fact....

4/5/2010 2:37 PM

Fuck you.

















J/K! tongue

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4/5/2010 2:39 PM

I thought "your experiment" was that "one time" in summer camp....

Oh, and you're dumb, gay, and slow.

Have a good day. smile

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4/5/2010 2:44 PM

You called them a POS you no shootin' hillbilly.smile

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4/5/2010 2:55 PM

No, what happened was people explained why two of your reason are not really good reasons. This is your way of backpedalling. That is my assessment.

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4/5/2010 3:05 PM

You probably complain that the fish you catch smell like fish too.

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Empty a bag of skittles into the toilet and then flush. It's like watching a five second long nascar race.

4/5/2010 3:09 PM

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4/5/2010 4:07 PM

Let us know what grade you get on your "experiment". Under "controlled conditions" it is an interesting snapshot of human nature - worthy of an extra credit school project.

On the other hand, it is Spring Fishing Season. Cast away!

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4/5/2010 4:10 PM

Is huck saying that he only put the tip in?

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4/5/2010 4:28 PM

Get bent, retard.



Why the hell didn't you call me a couple weeks ago anyways???

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4/5/2010 4:50 PM

Only thing im worried about is how many posts you have! Do some of you EVER make it outside?

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4/5/2010 4:56 PM



double the cc's to hang, you figure it out
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4/5/2010 5:08 PM

Two strokes RULE



`oG

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"Please don't feed the Drama Queens"

4/5/2010 5:09 PM



I f you grab a Ratio-Rite and pour Jim Beam in there first, perhaps six ounces -

then grab ya a bottle of regular Coke and gently pour it down the side of the

Ratio-Rite, delicately intertwining the two fluids, like a pair of anacondas in

a lovemaking session - snake porn if you will - then gently swill about the

concoction - while looking upward and heavily pondering the subject at hand -

marinate deeply while thinking about the sights and sounds of our sport,

contemplating all - methodically - while sipping that jug to completion. Deep thinking.
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4/5/2010 5:13 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/5/2010 5:15 PM

You like 2 strokes, he likes 4 strokes....you like bubba, he likes RC....you like SX, he likes MX... Are any of those differences worth getting into a pissing/name calling match?

You like guys, we like girls.
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4/5/2010 5:16 PM

ehr400 wrote:

Fuck you.

















J/K! tongue

Now THAT is funny shit !

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4/5/2010 5:32 PM

I'm not quite understanding what you planned on getting out of your so called experiment... and if it was to understand that people on this board are biased, and present little or no factual information when arguing, then damn you are an idiot! silly

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4/5/2010 5:39 PM

Somebody called me a name and made fun of how slow I ride......

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"The public sucks. Fuck hope." ~ George Carlin

4/5/2010 5:43 PM

Rupert X wrote:

I f you grab a Ratio-Rite and pour Jim Beam in there first, perhaps six ounces -

then grab ya a bottle of regular Coke and gently pour it down the side of the

Ratio-Rite, delicately intertwining the two fluids, like a pair of anacondas in

a lovemaking session - snake porn if you will - then gently swill about the

concoction - while looking upward and heavily pondering the subject at hand -

marinate deeply while thinking about the sights and sounds of our sport,

contemplating all - methodically - while sipping that jug to completion. Deep thinking.

Now a days I take my jar and see how many gulps I can get down,

Half a quart sometimes,

then I disolve a few #10 tabs in a shot glass

do them and see if morning comes or jesus.

huhu

facing done 2 more operations of bone graffs and titanium,

both done on ever stroke

the world of MX is and has always and will always be fucked up

do it or quit it

or do it till you have to quit it

or do it till you die

life is choices

make some and see what happenes

we all like livin' on the edge

see if you fall off is the fun

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4/5/2010 5:47 PM

It has been my experience that the 4 stroke costs me more to own and operate. I am a past AMA pro and currently ride the "A" and vet/pro classes. Comparing a YZ250, and a YZ450F. Both bikes seemed to get equal time out of wear items such as tires, sprockets/chains, and brake pads. Both bikes also got clean air filters after every ride, so that cost is equal. The cost of a pint of premix, and a quart of trans oil for my 250, is also equivilent to the cost of the motor oil for my 450. My 450 did get a new filter at every oil change though... So the 4 stroke costs me $10 more per riding day at this point. I ride 3-4 days a week so lets say on average it costs me $30 more per week. Both bikes get fresh piston and rings at the same intervals, but the 4 stroke requires more parts( shims for the valves, timing chain etc) in addition to the parts they share in common costing more for the 450. The 450 will run longer though without showing signes of needing to be freshened up so I can see how so many people are able to go so long without preventive maintence. Add into the fact that they are also slow enough that they arent stressing any parts on the bike and you can easily get a bike that will go 4 yrs on the same piston

I will not even go into the $4300 complete engine replacement I had to pay for, after my 450 blew up, on the 3rd ride. I now constantly have a fear of blowing the 450 up if I accidently over rev it, or I have to panic rev in mid air. Another severe engine failure will end my riding.. On the 250, this isnt even a thought since alot of the parts in the engine arent in danger of being damaged when it lets go and if it does blow, can be rebuilt very cheaply.

Honestly I like both bikes.. For racing, and trying to improve my skills as a rider, I prefer the 250. My lap times average about 3 sec. a lap faster on it(on a track with a 2min. lap time) because the 250 doesnt allow me to ride lazily or make mistakes. I must be on my game at all times. When I have days that I just want to go ride and have fun, or screw around trail riding the 450 is alot more fun, because I dont have to worry about keeping the bike on the pipe. For me the 450 is alot more dangerous on the track.Its faster, heaver, and carries a higher COG over my 250, making it that much harder to keep under control, especially about 15+ min. into a moto when you are starting to pace yourself. Although I dont panic rev ofter, the 250 is also more responsive in this sense, as it will actually help the bike, where as the 450, just makes alot of noise as it bounces off the rev limiter.

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If I wanted to ride a 4stroke, I would stay home and mow the lawn

4/5/2010 5:48 PM

I hate four strokes and the clowns who ride them, always have always will.

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4/5/2010 5:56 PM

I applaud Huck for finding a topic to antagonize people about that doesn't revolve around his hatred of black people, particularly black men who date more attractive women and have far more money than he ever will.

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4/5/2010 5:58 PM

Two stroke. I'm hard of hearing and I need to see smoke to know that it is running.

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4/5/2010 6:13 PM

Grendel wrote:

I applaud Huck for finding a topic to antagonize people about that doesn't revolve around his hatred of black people, particularly black men who date more attractive women and have far more money than he ever will.

have you met huck? have you seen his wife or looked into his bank account?

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4/5/2010 6:25 PM

T-Fish wrote:

Get bent, retard.



Why the hell didn't you call me a couple weeks ago anyways???

I sent you 3 texts...and got no replies!

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4/5/2010 6:27 PM

Grendel wrote:

I applaud Huck for finding a topic to antagonize people about that doesn't revolve around his hatred of black people, particularly black men who date more attractive women and have far more money than he ever will.

You know what happens what you assume things?

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The message posted above is most likely my opinion and shouldn't be taken as fact....

4/5/2010 7:27 PM

do you make an ass out of u and me?

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4/5/2010 7:44 PM

FU Huck!!

tongue

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Chuck Norris is 1/8th Scottish. This has nothing to do with ancestry, the man ate a fucking Scotsman!

4/5/2010 8:26 PM

What the phuck?

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4/6/2010 5:58 AM

Also important:

A clean Ratio Rite for the Jim Beam. Castor oil residue has unplesant.......effects.

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