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7/6/2017 9:24 PM

fter reviews and opinions on tyres, looking for something to throw on my yz250 in intermediate to hard clay sorta ground with some rock, but dont wanna give up to much wet weather grip for muddy rides. Currently running mx52's and the front is average at best and the rear once loses its edge is piss poor.

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7/6/2017 9:51 PM

In those conditions, the MX52 rear and MX3S front isn't bad. The MX52 front is an awful tire, in my opinion.
Most rears, when they lose their edge, it's a downward spiral, that's the nature of tire wear and the surface you're riding on.
The battlecross X40 rear may also be pretty good for you. Not a fan of the Bridgestone fronts.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

7/6/2017 10:06 PM

I'm a fan of the Pirelli MX Extra X for that style of terrain. All around though I think it's a really good tire.

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7/6/2017 10:14 PM

For off-road the shinko cheater will change your life.

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7/6/2017 10:31 PM

tempura wrote:

In those conditions, the MX52 rear and MX3S front isn't bad. The MX52 front is an awful tire, in my opinion.
Most rears, when they lose their edge, it's a downward spiral, that's the nature of tire wear and the surface you're riding on.
The battlecross X40 rear may also be pretty good for you. Not a fan of the Bridgestone fronts.

Yeah i don't mind the bridgys i liked the x30 so maybe ill give the x40 a go. Just once the 52 loses its edge it gets real sketchy compared to most other rears.

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7/7/2017 2:13 AM

tempura wrote:

In those conditions, the MX52 rear and MX3S front isn't bad. The MX52 front is an awful tire, in my opinion.
Most rears, when they lose their edge, it's a downward spiral, that's the nature of tire wear and the surface you're riding on.
The battlecross X40 rear may also be pretty good for you. Not a fan of the Bridgestone fronts.

jordz wrote:

Yeah i don't mind the bridgys i liked the x30 so maybe ill give the x40 a go. Just once the 52 loses its edge it gets real sketchy compared to most other rears.

Yeah I agree.
If you change the Dunlop rear often, it's a good tire.
Ive had both X30 and X40 Bridgestones. I prefer the X40 on the rear, riding similar conditions as you described. The X40 rear does have a longer life than the MX52.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

7/7/2017 2:45 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/7/2017 2:45 AM

Jake_CR250R wrote:

I'm a fan of the Pirelli MX Extra X for that style of terrain. All around though I think it's a really good tire.

I like the Pirelli mx xtra x as well. At the moment I am running the Pirelli mx 32 mid soft on the front. I run anywhere from real hard pack to nice ripped tacky clay. It holds surprisingly well on the hard pack and is very good on the clay

I'm riding a yz250 as well

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7/7/2017 3:27 AM

The 52 is too hard IMO. We use the 3S for all conditions. It may wear quicker on hard pack but it is a damn good tire. A honda salesman told me the biggest complaint he got on the 17 450R was the "hard ass back tire"grin

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7/7/2017 3:30 AM

Michelin Starcross 5 Medium?

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7/7/2017 3:34 AM

sgrimmxdad wrote:

The 52 is too hard IMO. We use the 3S for all conditions. It may wear quicker on hard pack but it is a damn good tire. A honda salesman told me the biggest complaint he got on the 17 450R was the "hard ass back tire"grin

Umm.. The MX3S is made from a harder compound than the MX52.

Softer terrain, harder compound.
Harder terrain, softer compound.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

7/7/2017 3:36 AM

HenryA wrote:

Michelin Starcross 5 Medium?

I like the rear, the front is average.
MX3S is the winner for me at the front.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

7/7/2017 3:37 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/7/2017 3:38 AM

sgrimmxdad wrote:

The 52 is too hard IMO. We use the 3S for all conditions. It may wear quicker on hard pack but it is a damn good tire. A honda salesman told me the biggest complaint he got on the 17 450R was the "hard ass back tire"grin

tempura wrote:

Umm.. The MX3S is made from a harder compound than the MX52.

Softer terrain, harder compound.
Harder terrain, softer compound.

Sure doesn't feel like it on the track.... Feels like riding on rocks....

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7/7/2017 4:06 AM

Michelin starcross 5 soft up front, and medium in the back. Just give it a try, it works really well.

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7/7/2017 4:08 AM

Looking for something that lasts to sorta thing. No point running new tyres on hard practice tracks every weekend imo. What're the michy starcross or bridgestone battlecross like?

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7/7/2017 4:21 AM

tempura wrote:

In those conditions, the MX52 rear and MX3S front isn't bad. The MX52 front is an awful tire, in my opinion.
Most rears, when they lose their edge, it's a downward spiral, that's the nature of tire wear and the surface you're riding on.
The battlecross X40 rear may also be pretty good for you. Not a fan of the Bridgestone fronts.

jordz wrote:

Yeah i don't mind the bridgys i liked the x30 so maybe ill give the x40 a go. Just once the 52 loses its edge it gets real sketchy compared to most other rears.

tempura wrote:

Yeah I agree.
If you change the Dunlop rear often, it's a good tire.
Ive had both X30 and X40 Bridgestones. I prefer the X40 on the rear, riding similar conditions as you described. The X40 rear does have a longer life than the MX52.

i like the x 20 ,works well even on hardpack

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7/7/2017 5:43 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/7/2017 5:46 AM

Turbojez wrote:

Michelin starcross 5 soft up front, and medium in the back. Just give it a try, it works really well.

what he said. I was a bridgestone guy for years. The 203 and 404 worked great. I do not like the new battlecross at all. Significantly heavier than the 404 and not the same feel. Switched to starcross combo above and happy I did.

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7/7/2017 6:26 AM

Tire.

Someone had to say it. LOL

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7/7/2017 6:35 AM

Jake_CR250R wrote:

I'm a fan of the Pirelli MX Extra X for that style of terrain. All around though I think it's a really good tire.

This is about all I run. If I decide to go trail ride for the weekend or ride the loamy track it works and lasts.

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7/7/2017 6:37 AM

I've been really happy with the x30/x40 combo.

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7/7/2017 7:18 AM

sgrimmxdad wrote:

The 52 is too hard IMO. We use the 3S for all conditions. It may wear quicker on hard pack but it is a damn good tire. A honda salesman told me the biggest complaint he got on the 17 450R was the "hard ass back tire"grin

tempura wrote:

Umm.. The MX3S is made from a harder compound than the MX52.

Softer terrain, harder compound.
Harder terrain, softer compound.

no, mx52 and mx32/3S uses same rubber compund.

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7/7/2017 10:49 AM

The Pirelli MX32 Pro rear tire is absolutely awesome! The traction and and tracking are amazing. Check out the reviews.
I have no idea on the front. I'm due for a new front tire, and looking for some advice.

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7/7/2017 1:50 PM

tempura wrote:

Umm.. The MX3S is made from a harder compound than the MX52.

Softer terrain, harder compound.
Harder terrain, softer compound.

This is what I've always thought but then I heard Keefer refering to the Michelin Starcross 5 Soft tire as having a soft compound. Seems ass backwards to me.

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7/7/2017 1:50 PM

All I can say is the best front tire I've ever used for varied conditions is the golden tyre fatty. It's hands down the best front tire I've ever used. By far

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7/7/2017 3:22 PM

I was an all out mx3s guy but decided to give the new michelins a try and they are VERY good with more lifespan...

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7/7/2017 4:22 PM

One thing that bothers me about the Starcross series is, the comparatively high tire pressures. Michelin recommends 16-17psi.
I ran the mediums at those high pressures and It felt sketchy. I had to drop them back down to about 13psi but was having trouble with traction on the front wheel.

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

7/7/2017 4:38 PM

Michelins for me. My new KTM came with the MX3S, they were good when new....But after 10 hours or so they really lost their edge. I ran 13.5 pounds minimum on advice from here and the Dunlop guy....and my front was chucking knobs off left and right. I have never had a front tire come apart so bad as the 3S. The rear is ok when the dirt is loamy, but they are TERRIBLE on hardpack.

If you run in the woods the Shinko cheater or IRC VE33 are great options

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

7/7/2017 6:27 PM

I switched from Dunlop MX3S Front and Rear to Bridgestone Battlecross X30 front and X40 rear. I have nearly 10 hours on the Stones and they are still gripping very well and are very predictable. The Dunlops are great tires when brand new, but once the knobbies round off a bit the traction fades so fast. The bridgestones are roughly 35$ cheaper per set than the dunlops, too. Win win for me being a weekend warrior with a few races throughout the year.

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7/7/2017 6:50 PM

HenryA wrote:

Michelin Starcross 5 Medium?

Couldn't agree more. I just did a muddy Snowshoe Mountain GNCC on very rounded Medium starcross 5 and couldn't believe how well it still hooked up on the rocks, mud, roots, etc. I have the medium on the front and like it, but looks like I should try the soft.

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7/7/2017 6:57 PM

Goldentyre 216aa has been sweet for me, but I ride nasty rocks n' stuff.

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7/7/2017 7:02 PM

sgrimmxdad wrote:

The 52 is too hard IMO. We use the 3S for all conditions. It may wear quicker on hard pack but it is a damn good tire. A honda salesman told me the biggest complaint he got on the 17 450R was the "hard ass back tire"grin

tempura wrote:

Umm.. The MX3S is made from a harder compound than the MX52.

Softer terrain, harder compound.
Harder terrain, softer compound.

Anyone remember how butter soft the Dunlop D756RR was?

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