The triple crown was awesome but they should reverse

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3/5/2018 6:48 AM

the motos/heats and make the last race 12 minutes plus 2, the shortest of the heats. The intensity would be off the hook. I like how Prater and the folks are trying things up.

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3/5/2018 6:49 AM

Sounds like a good idea!

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3/5/2018 7:11 AM

That's a great idea. Maybe they could also take out makeup to mud and actually broadcast the LCQ's as part of the night program rather than right after qualifying. One can dream right? wink

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3/5/2018 7:29 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/5/2018 7:33 AM

Not a Fan.

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3/5/2018 7:33 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing this at the last triple crown of the year to see how it plays out.

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3/5/2018 7:38 AM

ML512 wrote:

I wouldn't mind seeing this at the last triple crown of the year to see how it plays out.

I'm just stoked to see the last triple crown period. So it's over.cool

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3/5/2018 1:27 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/5/2018 1:27 PM

BobbyM wrote:

the motos/heats and make the last race 12 minutes plus 2, the shortest of the heats. The intensity would be off the hook. I like how Prater and the folks are trying things up.

The shorter races have become the most exciting since the cream doesn't have as much time to rise to the top and overcome a bad start. Given enough time the riders with the lowest lap times will mostly end up in front.

I like that you are thinking outside the box with ideas, and the concept has merit. Let's take it a step further, how about 5 motos of 6 minutes? wassat

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3/5/2018 3:36 PM

Yeah, the last races would be nuts.

I still don’t know about the Triple Crown. I loved it and flew to Vegas for the MEC because of it.

But in a points race, I kind of like the “reading of a book” style with the build up and an easily recognized hero at the end.

Can the series stand all those main events type starts. I know the passing is less intense near the front in a heat, I wonder about the start intensity difference. There must be a little less panic in a heat race start.

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3/5/2018 4:05 PM

Drtbykr wrote:

Yeah, the last races would be nuts.

I still don’t know about the Triple Crown. I loved it and flew to Vegas for the MEC because of it.

But in a points race, I kind of like the “reading of a book” style with the build up and an easily recognized hero at the end.

Can the series stand all those main events type starts. I know the passing is less intense near the front in a heat, I wonder about the start intensity difference. There must be a little less panic in a heat race start.

Heats are for qualing, riders tend settle in but the main, 1/3 of it anyways makes for more cutthroat.

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3/5/2018 4:09 PM

20+1. Triple Crown is stooooooopid.

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3/5/2018 4:14 PM

Quadruple crown with four 8 Minute +1 lap mains.

But seriously, I think it would be interesting to see the shortest race last. That would shake things up!

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3/5/2018 4:32 PM

Squirrelings wrote:

20+1. Triple Crown is stooooooopid.

Just curious how these 3 races would hit you?

Quarterfinal
Semifinal
Main

Still 3 races, but a full field in the night show, and no calculators needed.

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3/5/2018 4:56 PM

They should run the track backwards on the second race and make the riders balance on a little ball while juggling. Maybe have the announcer in the middle of the track with a red & white pinstriped suit and a big bullwhip. Oh I know; they should have a flaming hoop to jump through at the finish line too. Oh wait, that one is almost true already.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supercross wasn't broken. No need to fix it.

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3/5/2018 5:02 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/5/2018 5:03 PM

Squirrelings wrote:

20+1. Triple Crown is stooooooopid.

Johnny Depp wrote:

Just curious how these 3 races would hit you?

Quarterfinal
Semifinal
Main

Still 3 races, but a full field in the night show, and no calculators needed.

Better than the triple crown. I think we should try:
Heat
Semi
LCQ
Main

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3/5/2018 5:05 PM

I like that they're trying new things, and even the reverse race order could be cool. Whatever they do, they need to figure out how to name it. If you're going to race a 3 moto format like LL, don't call it 3 main events. That sounds so stupid and makes parts of the broadcast confusing. Put simply, and I think this is why some people don't like it, if you have 6 "Main" events, you have no Main Event.

"Brayton has never won a main event, and he's about to win one, but not really, but kinda."

Similarly, I cringe hearing the commentary on the history of the sport regarding 125/250 and now 250/450. "Jeremy McGrath won the 450 Monster Energy Supercross title..." Oh really, he did?..the circus continues. And I'm still watching.

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3/5/2018 5:07 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/5/2018 6:48 PM

Squirrelings wrote:

20+1. Triple Crown is stooooooopid.

Johnny Depp wrote:

Just curious how these 3 races would hit you?

Quarterfinal
Semifinal
Main

Still 3 races, but a full field in the night show, and no calculators needed.

Squirrelings wrote:

Better than the triple crown. I think we should try:
Heat
Semi
LCQ
Main

Are we talking about the same thing just adding an LCQ? I don't want to see anyone go straight to the main, gotta race 3 races. No use for an LCQ, knockout makes for more drama.

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3/5/2018 6:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/5/2018 6:44 PM

ML512 wrote:

I wouldn't mind seeing this at the last triple crown of the year to see how it plays out.

DE262 wrote:

I'm just stoked to see the last triple crown period. So it's over.cool

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3/5/2018 6:51 PM

I like the Triple Crown, but don't want all of the races to be this format. I'd like to see maybe half Triple Crown and half the old format. Variety is good.

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3/5/2018 6:52 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/5/2018 6:52 PM

Falcon wrote:

They should run the track backwards on the second race and make the riders balance on a little ball while juggling. Maybe have the announcer in the middle of the track with a red & white pinstriped suit and a big bullwhip. Oh I know; they should have a flaming hoop to jump through at the finish line too. Oh wait, that one is almost true already.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Supercross wasn't broken. No need to fix it.

Yes and for the final race they could just release the running of the bulls into the stadium floor and the last man standing wins!!! Seriously this triple crown is a joke! Way to much risk for the riders with no reward! 20+1 is how the winner should be decided...

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3/5/2018 7:12 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/5/2018 7:33 PM

JB 19 wrote:

I like the Triple Crown, but don't want all of the races to be this format. I'd like to see maybe half Triple Crown and half the old format. Variety is good.

Yes. Not an all or notthin'. Speaking of variety, I'm zeroing in on this blend:

(3) Triple Crown
(3) Doubleheaders (2 moto format)
(Rest) Old Format - Barry White "style" Never Gonna Give You Up

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3/5/2018 7:32 PM

Triple crown - meh, I don't like change.

I can't wait for the next 20 minute + 1 main event where Tomac holeshots, wins by 10 seconds, Marvin comes through the pack to get 2nd and Anderson protects his points lead with a solid 3rd place.

Can we please have more practice races, they are really awesome. They are better and way more exciting than point scoring races.







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3/5/2018 8:06 PM

Johnny Depp wrote:

Are we talking about the same thing just adding an LCQ? I don't want to see anyone go straight to the main, gotta race 3 races. No use for an LCQ, knockout makes for more drama.

No, I actually prefer the traditional format. The three main events take away from the excitement for me. Everything has less impact because of averaging the three finishes the third race causes people to lay up if they are in a good position for the overall. Heats, Semis, LCQ, and Main Event. That's what's going to put the most racing on my TV in a 3 hour period. I don't care what it's for, as long as they are on my TV and racing. You want short races for excitement, the Semis were pretty short.

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3/6/2018 6:44 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/6/2018 7:30 AM

Squirrelings wrote:

Better than the triple crown. I think we should try:
Heat
Semi
LCQ
Main

Johnny Depp wrote:

Are we talking about the same thing just adding an LCQ? I don't want to see anyone go straight to the main, gotta race 3 races. No use for an LCQ, knockout makes for more drama.

Squirrelings wrote:

No, I actually prefer the traditional format. The three main events take away from the excitement for me. Everything has less impact because of averaging the three finishes the third race causes people to lay up if they are in a good position for the overall. Heats, Semis, LCQ, and Main Event. That's what's going to put the most racing on my TV in a 3 hour period. I don't care what it's for, as long as they are on my TV and racing. You want short races for excitement, the Semis were pretty short.

Heat, LCQ, Main = 8 races 4 per class (3 for slow guys, 2 for fast guys) non TC format '18

LCQ, 3 Motos = 8 races 4 per class (4 for slow guys, 3 for fast guys) Triple Crown

Heat, Semi, LCQ, Main = 10 races 5 per class (4 for slow guys, 2 for fast guys) old format

Quarterfinal, Semifinal, Main = 7 races 1 class (3 for fast guys) really old format



LCQ's and Semi's are a filler that require the slow guys to be more tired for the Mains. Fake Race.
2 Classes is more filler, most of the riders are the same talent. Fake Race.

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3/6/2018 9:37 PM

I have been watching SX for over 20 years and have never been so thrilled than I was watching ATL Triple Crown in person. Best racing ever, imo. I was on the edge of my seat for each race... 6 motos, 6 different winners... throw a blanket over those 1st 6 racers in the first Moto... fantastic racing!

Not sure why anyone likes regular format over Triple Crown... the 20+1 idea is boring as crap. Let’s see how many times Tomac can lap Reed sounds like a blast. That’s just boring as crap. I’d rather have a full on scrap every lap rather than falling asleep because the leader has almost a full lap lead on 2nd or 3rd.

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3/7/2018 3:38 AM

racerx317 wrote:

I have been watching SX for over 20 years and have never been so thrilled than I was watching ATL Triple Crown in person. Best racing ever, imo. I was on the edge of my seat for each race... 6 motos, 6 different winners... throw a blanket over those 1st 6 racers in the first Moto... fantastic racing!

Not sure why anyone likes regular format over Triple Crown... the 20+1 idea is boring as crap. Let’s see how many times Tomac can lap Reed sounds like a blast. That’s just boring as crap. I’d rather have a full on scrap every lap rather than falling asleep because the leader has almost a full lap lead on 2nd or 3rd.

Well said. Both TC races had much more intesity.
The 20 lap mains are snoozers most of the time after the first lap or so. More triple crown races!

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3/7/2018 5:37 AM

Triple Crown?

Get off my lawn!!!

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3/7/2018 7:39 AM

ML512 wrote:

I wouldn't mind seeing this at the last triple crown of the year to see how it plays out.

I like it too.

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3/7/2018 8:37 AM

The "triple crown" encourages riders to settle in the last race. What should be the most important race of the evening isn't. Wasn't it thrilling to watch JA let riders go by without a fight because he didn't need those positions to keep the overall win. The night show should be set up so that each race builds in intensity. It shouldn't peak an hour before the end. Both triple crown races this year peaked part way through the second moto.

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3/7/2018 8:40 AM

Frank Tuesday wrote:

The "triple crown" encourages riders to settle in the last race. What should be the most important race of the evening isn't. Wasn't it thrilling to watch JA let riders go by without a fight because he didn't need those positions to keep the overall win. The night show should be set up so that each race builds in intensity. It shouldn't peak an hour before the end. Both triple crown races this year peaked part way through the second moto.

^ This.

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3/7/2018 6:22 PM

BobbyM wrote:

Heats are for qualing, riders tend settle in but the main, 1/3 of it anyways makes for more cutthroat.

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Keep up the good work

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