The most protective helmet

Edited Date/Time 10/14/2019 2:31pm
Hello ! I have a case where in past I have had four concussions because of ice hockey (and two because of motocross) so my question is what do You consider as the most protective helmets ? I have heard about 6D helmets and also the MIPS system.

Personally I like the most TLD SE4 Carbon with MIPS and for me it is also important that the helmet is not too heavy itself (around 1300 grams)

I would also consider 6D ART2 and Bell helmets, but perhaps You can recommend me something and give any advice/tips ?
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One that fits your head
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10/7/2019 3:59am
The FLY Formula helmet is impressive.
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10/7/2019 4:55am Edited Date/Time 10/7/2019 4:58am
6D ATR2 seems like a really good helmet but quite expensive, just depends how much your heads worth I suppose. Bell Moto 9 Flex, Airoh Aviator, Fox V3, Shoei VFX, Arai etc all great helmets but high end so £400+ some over £500

As a general rule it's good to buy from companies that specifically deal in helmets but these days gear companies (Fox, Fly, TLD) are making some nice helmets.
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10/7/2019 6:50am
With previous concussion I would seriously look at the 6D ATR 2.
I just picked up a Suomy MX Speed with MIPS and it is still a real light helmet which for my neck is great. But that’s what I use and in 40 + years only a couple concussions where I was knocked out. And several bell ringers which are just mild ones.
What’s you life worth?
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10/7/2019 8:39am
Well I do not have any limit for the budget as helmet is not the piece of equipment where Im gonna save some bucks.. I rather wear some cheap shirts/pants and rather have the best helmet in the market.. I do not care about the price at all !

So it seems I should go for 6D then ..
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10/7/2019 9:20am
I think the 6D ATR2 and the Troy Lee SE4 are the safest imo.
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Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your research online, visit your local dealer to try several helmets on, and make an educated choice.
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10/7/2019 12:53pm
The most important thing is finding a helmet in which you are comfortable. We all have different head shapes and this play a huge factor on the effectiveness of the helmet. The high-end helmet have (almost all of them) technology that prevent injuries on different type of impact. Which one is the best is hard to pinpoint they are all adressing the issue of lower velocity impact that older helmet couldn't do.

I had one concussion in my mx life (22 years of riding) and it was with a well know helmet cie. I trully believe that the new technology could have prevent that.

One thing I feel important but was not mention before is the importance of ventilation. We all get affected by heat and our head is one great ventilator. Keeping the head cool help in the concentration and focus while riding. This could prevent a crash due to heat.
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10/8/2019 1:55pm
charley586 wrote:
The most important thing is finding a helmet in which you are comfortable. We all have different head shapes and this play a huge factor on...
The most important thing is finding a helmet in which you are comfortable. We all have different head shapes and this play a huge factor on the effectiveness of the helmet. The high-end helmet have (almost all of them) technology that prevent injuries on different type of impact. Which one is the best is hard to pinpoint they are all adressing the issue of lower velocity impact that older helmet couldn't do.

I had one concussion in my mx life (22 years of riding) and it was with a well know helmet cie. I trully believe that the new technology could have prevent that.

One thing I feel important but was not mention before is the importance of ventilation. We all get affected by heat and our head is one great ventilator. Keeping the head cool help in the concentration and focus while riding. This could prevent a crash due to heat.
As far as I have heard from other riders the TLD helmets provide the best ventilation .. and also their design is pretty cool besides the technologies they put into them ..

But Bell only specialises in helmets so that would also be good choice ..

So I guess I need to test fit both brands and then just pick the most comfortable for my head..
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1. Do not take Vital's advice blindly.
2. Look at the test data.

For the goal of preventing concussions, see the data for 6D and Leatt. 6D designs to optimize acceleration to stay below 60 g. Leatt is the only manufacturer that publishes independent test data and designs to optimize acceleration to stay below 120 g.

For the goal of preventing death, Snell M2015 certified helmets have the best impact management optimized to stay below 275 g. This includes some helmets by Arai, Bell, Fly, HJC, Shoei, and Troy Lee Designs.

The rest do not have published test data as good as these. But at the least, get an ECE-certified helmet.

As JT$ mentioned, do your own research, visit your local dealer, and see what fits.
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When you're trying on helmets, try them on with your goggles on. This was covered in another helmet thread but I know myself as well as a few others have had issues with your goggles being too low and pinching your nostrils shut due to a low eye opening in the helmet. Just something else to consider when your trying them on. Grab a pair of your favorite goggles and bring them with you. Being forced to breathe through your mouth because your nostrils are partially pinched shut while your riding sucks.
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Jt$ wrote:
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your...
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your research online, visit your local dealer to try several helmets on, and make an educated choice.
JT$ at his finest! He knows that by having this guy go into the local shop and try the helmets on that this guy is gonna leave with the helmet he is pushing. One hell of a sales tactic!!!
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10/8/2019 5:39pm
Jt$ wrote:
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your...
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your research online, visit your local dealer to try several helmets on, and make an educated choice.
BMc914 wrote:
JT$ at his finest! He knows that by having this guy go into the local shop and try the helmets on that this guy is gonna...
JT$ at his finest! He knows that by having this guy go into the local shop and try the helmets on that this guy is gonna leave with the helmet he is pushing. One hell of a sales tactic!!!
I couldn't agree any less with you BMc914! As a former racer, and current cyclist (also mountain bikes) you need to try helmets on first. As one of the other posters said, everyone's head shape is different, which lends itself greatly to going to your local shop and trying multiple companies product on.
I also wouldn't call it a sales tactic but a smart shopping tool for consumers. In my opinion (not saying its right) any good salesperson shouldn't push any one, singular product on a customer, but help the customer navigate the crowded selection that is out there.
JT is right on the money here. Go to your local shop, especially if you have a relationship built there, and try on all the lines they carry.
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10/8/2019 6:17pm
Check out the Kali Shiva 2.0. Not Snell, but IMO Snells are for big hits not concussions. 6D is also a safety leader.
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10/8/2019 6:31pm Edited Date/Time 10/8/2019 6:32pm
You just don't get it do ya!!!! By doing everything you say he will leave with the one JT$ is associated with.
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10/8/2019 7:03pm
Ahhh...I see BMc9214 - reading between the lines, you are saying the Fly helmet is the best! He will realize it when he try's it on!!
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Excuse me for my ignorance, but is there any topic on here that explains the differences in technology from for example 6D and TLD? or 6D and Arai? I have an Arai and a 6D helmet at the moment, and plan on keep buying those as they are the safety leaders. But to be honest, I really like TLD as well. How safe are those? Is the MIPS system they have enough? Or are there different factors that true helmet companies have that ensure better safety as well? I've been reading here and there, and it seems like a lot of these helmets (apart from Arai and Shoei) are made in the same factories.
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Cortami79 wrote:
Excuse me for my ignorance, but is there any topic on here that explains the differences in technology from for example 6D and TLD? or 6D...
Excuse me for my ignorance, but is there any topic on here that explains the differences in technology from for example 6D and TLD? or 6D and Arai? I have an Arai and a 6D helmet at the moment, and plan on keep buying those as they are the safety leaders. But to be honest, I really like TLD as well. How safe are those? Is the MIPS system they have enough? Or are there different factors that true helmet companies have that ensure better safety as well? I've been reading here and there, and it seems like a lot of these helmets (apart from Arai and Shoei) are made in the same factories.
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sumdood wrote:
When you're trying on helmets, try them on with your goggles on. This was covered in another helmet thread but I know myself as well as...
When you're trying on helmets, try them on with your goggles on. This was covered in another helmet thread but I know myself as well as a few others have had issues with your goggles being too low and pinching your nostrils shut due to a low eye opening in the helmet. Just something else to consider when your trying them on. Grab a pair of your favorite goggles and bring them with you. Being forced to breathe through your mouth because your nostrils are partially pinched shut while your riding sucks.
This and the fit of each brand is a little different relative to the shape of your noggin. There was a certain brand I really wanted a few years back but it did not sit on my head properly so it was a no go.
10/11/2019 2:56am
Thanks everyone for the replies ! It definitely has been a nice discussion and will help me make the right choice !
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Jt$ wrote:
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your...
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your research online, visit your local dealer to try several helmets on, and make an educated choice.
BMc914 wrote:
JT$ at his finest! He knows that by having this guy go into the local shop and try the helmets on that this guy is gonna...
JT$ at his finest! He knows that by having this guy go into the local shop and try the helmets on that this guy is gonna leave with the helmet he is pushing. One hell of a sales tactic!!!
What brand helmet did JT mention in his post?
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10/11/2019 4:10am
Jt$ wrote:
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your...
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on this. Luckily, we are living through the biggest technological advances that helmets have ever seen. Do your research online, visit your local dealer to try several helmets on, and make an educated choice.
BMc914 wrote:
JT$ at his finest! He knows that by having this guy go into the local shop and try the helmets on that this guy is gonna...
JT$ at his finest! He knows that by having this guy go into the local shop and try the helmets on that this guy is gonna leave with the helmet he is pushing. One hell of a sales tactic!!!
Or maybe because its more important to try on helmets to get the correct one for the shape of your head than to buy “x” brand because everyone told you so.

The sales tactic is to show you care about the customer getting what is best for them regardless if its your brand or not - just my opinion.
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Who makes the roundest wheels?

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10/11/2019 4:26am Edited Date/Time 10/11/2019 4:26am
Go for what fits you best - the safety advances over the past few years mean the helmets Stew and Ricky were using in their wild days would not have performed as well as the current top tier ones do in the "lab".

Depending on your usual climate you might want to focus on things like cooling and how well your goggle of preferences fits the frame of the helmet.
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Bjorn645 wrote:
Go for what fits you best - the safety advances over the past few years mean the helmets Stew and Ricky were using in their wild...
Go for what fits you best - the safety advances over the past few years mean the helmets Stew and Ricky were using in their wild days would not have performed as well as the current top tier ones do in the "lab".

Depending on your usual climate you might want to focus on things like cooling and how well your goggle of preferences fits the frame of the helmet.
Best fit is no guarantee of best safety. The OP’s question is relevant, and to assume that all helmets in the modern era are better is wrong.
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Bjorn645 wrote:
Go for what fits you best - the safety advances over the past few years mean the helmets Stew and Ricky were using in their wild...
Go for what fits you best - the safety advances over the past few years mean the helmets Stew and Ricky were using in their wild days would not have performed as well as the current top tier ones do in the "lab".

Depending on your usual climate you might want to focus on things like cooling and how well your goggle of preferences fits the frame of the helmet.
Best fit is no guarantee of best safety. The OP’s question is relevant, and to assume that all helmets in the modern era are better is...
Best fit is no guarantee of best safety. The OP’s question is relevant, and to assume that all helmets in the modern era are better is wrong.
Best fit in the current top tier of helmets is. I have crashed in MIPS and non MIPS - and woke up with my bike someway down the track both times. So my opinion - as far as my experience is concerned - aint wrong Wink -I am not talking about bottom range helmets, I am talking about the current crop of reputable brands' flagship models.
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Mips, there are from 150$

Bucal protectors also are good choice
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Retail $725 [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/10/09/378701/s1200_032EDA70_7521_4527_9437_AE5B4AA9537B.jpg[/img]
Retail $725

So ahead of its time that it anticipated the radio com' Wink

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