The UFC beat us to the punch

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Edited Date/Time 5/11/2020 6:02am
I haven't visited Vital very much in the last month since there hasn't been anything to talk about, but I just checked up on whatever news there might be about the plan for SX returning May 15th, and it looks like it's pushed off another two weeks at least.

It's a shame we couldn't get things back going and I feel like we're dropping the ball on this one to get seen by a bigger and eager audience looking for any sports during this time. Whereas the UFC is going to be one of the first back tonight and you know the viewership for that will be massive.

Not looking for any answers here, just sort of a tame rant about the subject. Carry on. And btw, no pun intended on the title of this thread.
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ti473 5/9/2020 1:52pm
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Will there be live spectators though? I don’t think you need that many people to pull off a fight even with a tv crew. And doesn’t UFC really heavily on their PPV?
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UFC 249..not sure about spectators.
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No spectators and one fighter tested positive for the virus
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JeremyK 5/9/2020 3:04pm
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RVT420 wrote:
No spectators and one fighter tested positive for the virus
Testing works
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FlaNard 5/9/2020 3:14pm
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The one to watch is the NFL. They just released the schedule for the regular season and are planning on having fans at the games. Now, I give zero shits about football but no sport in the US has anything close to the popularity or pull that they have. If they can’t figure out how to have fans at the games nobody can.
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devindavisphoto 5/9/2020 3:22pm
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A lot less people involved in a UFC card than a SX event.

11 fights, 22 fighters, I think coaches are limited to 1-2... the TV crew, medical staff, etc... there's probably only 200-250 people in the building.

SX would be 80 riders minimum, mechanics for each rider = 160, TV crew, medical staff, track crew, etc... probably 2-3x more in attendance.
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PBR had a bull riding last weekend.
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devindavisphoto wrote:
A lot less people involved in a UFC card than a SX event. 11 fights, 22 fighters, I think coaches are limited to 1-2... the TV...
A lot less people involved in a UFC card than a SX event.

11 fights, 22 fighters, I think coaches are limited to 1-2... the TV crew, medical staff, etc... there's probably only 200-250 people in the building.

SX would be 80 riders minimum, mechanics for each rider = 160, TV crew, medical staff, track crew, etc... probably 2-3x more in attendance.
You could do sx with just the top 20 in points and just have mains
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WOO Sprint Cars raced yesterday at Knoxville with no spectators.
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One is run by Dana White, the other is run by... Feld.
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devindavisphoto wrote:
A lot less people involved in a UFC card than a SX event. 11 fights, 22 fighters, I think coaches are limited to 1-2... the TV...
A lot less people involved in a UFC card than a SX event.

11 fights, 22 fighters, I think coaches are limited to 1-2... the TV crew, medical staff, etc... there's probably only 200-250 people in the building.

SX would be 80 riders minimum, mechanics for each rider = 160, TV crew, medical staff, track crew, etc... probably 2-3x more in attendance.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
You could do sx with just the top 20 in points and just have mains
SX is in a football stadium. Social distancing will not be a problem.

SX missed out though. All the pre lim fights or whatever you call them were on at prime time for free, leading you into PPV for the main events

Hopefully SX can get going in the next few weeks, need something to watch.
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aeffertz 5/9/2020 9:50pm
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Has there been any *actual* backlash for UFC going off this weekend? I don't care about the one basement dweller on Twitter that says he now has PTSD because they decided to do it.
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JM485 5/9/2020 10:04pm
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Bruce372 wrote:
They wanted to do the races in Arizona? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/05/09/426159/s1200_Screenshot_20200509_153516_Chrome.jpg[/img]
They wanted to do the races in Arizona?


Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't exactly think it's a major shock that we're getting more confirmed cases now that testing is becoming more widespread. As far as I'm aware the numbers that we need to watch are hospitalizations, the case data is so skewed at this point due to inconsistent testing that it's all but worthless, but hospitalizations are a lot easier to track and are really the main concern here. If things start to open up and hospitalization numbers don't jump then I don't really see what the issue is.

Edit: Also, the fact that they're including "probable cases" really makes that data potentially faulty.
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jorgechavez 5/10/2020 1:30am
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aeffertz wrote:
Has there been any *actual* backlash for UFC going off this weekend? I don't care about the one basement dweller on Twitter that says he now...
Has there been any *actual* backlash for UFC going off this weekend? I don't care about the one basement dweller on Twitter that says he now has PTSD because they decided to do it.
There has been some backlash from certain media groups that cover the sport but for the most part I think the response was positive.
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hititpind 5/10/2020 6:57am
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The fights were good. But it was weird watching it without the crowd noise. Took away some excitement for me.

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Ted722 5/10/2020 7:27am
5/10/2020 7:27am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2020 6:02am
Was nice to see PBR (Pro Bull-riding Assoc.) on CBS sports last night. Same day coverage from Guthrie, OK. No fans, staff wearing masks, but the heart of the sport was on full display. No clip from yesteryear holds a candle to live or same-day coverage (whatever provisions in place).

Enjoyed every minute.
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dnf736 5/10/2020 9:44am
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I couldn't figure out a way to watch the fights without subscribing to ESPN+ so I passed. Did I miss a direct link somewhere?
thatswhathappens 5/10/2020 10:03am
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dnf736 wrote:
I couldn't figure out a way to watch the fights without subscribing to ESPN+ so I passed. Did I miss a direct link somewhere?
It was PPV, I believe.

The MMA forum on Reddit usually posts the 30 seconds or so of the finish of each fight right after it happens, which is how I catch up with everything if I don't have a link to a stream.
woody woodpecker 5/10/2020 11:12am
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dnf736 wrote:
I couldn't figure out a way to watch the fights without subscribing to ESPN+ so I passed. Did I miss a direct link somewhere?
No you just missed about 100 streams which are put up every time there's a fight on
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cz2crf2wc 5/10/2020 11:27am
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Some horse racing never stopped. Just no fans.
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Bruce372 5/10/2020 11:57am
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Bruce372 wrote:
They wanted to do the races in Arizona? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/05/09/426159/s1200_Screenshot_20200509_153516_Chrome.jpg[/img]
They wanted to do the races in Arizona?


JM485 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't exactly think it's a major shock that we're getting more confirmed cases now that testing is becoming...
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't exactly think it's a major shock that we're getting more confirmed cases now that testing is becoming more widespread. As far as I'm aware the numbers that we need to watch are hospitalizations, the case data is so skewed at this point due to inconsistent testing that it's all but worthless, but hospitalizations are a lot easier to track and are really the main concern here. If things start to open up and hospitalization numbers don't jump then I don't really see what the issue is.

Edit: Also, the fact that they're including "probable cases" really makes that data potentially faulty.
With incubation taking weeks and not days, its maybe not the best idea to use hospitalization metric since things are already out of control by that point.

But yes, infected to tested ratio is most important probably.

Since you are an engineer, you should be looking at all data and continually testing and revising prediction models to establish the most important one Cool as we get more data, all the worries about a few cases of bad data here or there become less significant.

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scootch 5/10/2020 12:22pm
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Indy Car is holding a no spectator race in TX on June 6 a well. Stoked on some entertainment coming back!!
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Kawi15 5/10/2020 6:09pm
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Not that I have ever watched the UFC, or even like that sort of brutality.. I am very happy that they are getting back to business. We need to put this whole Coronagate thing behind us and just let people do business so they can support their families.
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