The KTM350SX-F

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4/23/2010 1:36 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/17/2016 10:21 PM

I've seen this thing in person a few times, lately...

The injection-system is as clean as it gets.
The Italian Starter-Motor is wonderfully 'small' and installed into the engine in the most compact way possible.
The temp-sensor/pick-up is in the smartest location I've seen...so far...in the water-jacket between the intake & exhaust valves (Left-side).
The linkage is STOUT! Think of a wider-more "billetized" old-style Yamaha.
The bike is sooooooo 250ish that it's well...jus' bitchin'!
The New-Swingarms is like a works-part.

I'm jus' wondering if, like Husky, it's gonna come with all the Computer-Cables, Program(s) and stuff stock?

This will be their best selling bike...

I'd go get on the waiting list if you want one "early"

I know I'll be riding one. And, I haven't "owned" a KTM since '91!

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

4/23/2010 1:40 PM

So it is a fuelie? I thought some others on here said it wasn't going to be. The bike really sounds interesting.

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4/23/2010 1:49 PM

It's just my opinion, but I think it'll be the best amateur bike ever built; and I think Alessi is going to be at a big disadvantage in the Nationals on it. He's a holeshot-and-lead guy; put him in 10th at the start and he's in trouble. And that's where he is going to be on the 350 against the rest of the guys in the Nationals.

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4/23/2010 1:51 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/17/2016 10:21 PM

No-one will say a damn thing about power...torque...etc.

They jus' smile like a bunch of smart-asses & I've heard the term: "Best of Both Worlds".

That leads me to believe that Mikey will be jus' fine...

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

4/23/2010 1:52 PM

neverwasfastenuf wrote:

So it is a fuelie? I thought some others on here said it wasn't going to be. The bike really sounds interesting.

yes the production bike will be a fuelie....

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4/23/2010 2:02 PM

I am on the waiting list currently for a 2011 250sx,, Dealer is telling me mid June

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If I wanted to ride a 4stroke, I would stay home and mow the lawn

4/23/2010 2:36 PM

WhKnuckle wrote:

It's just my opinion, but I think it'll be the best amateur bike ever built; and I think Alessi is going to be at a big disadvantage in the Nationals on it. He's a holeshot-and-lead guy; put him in 10th at the start and he's in trouble. And that's where he is going to be on the 350 against the rest of the guys in the Nationals.

MIKE has proven he can pass last year at hangtown. is it as good as the suzy...no fucking way.

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4/23/2010 2:51 PM

I'm interested in seeing how it does.

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Don't be a 2 Stroke Racist. Join in the fight for equality. CC vs CC side by side.
We should no longer be concerned with color, size, stroke preferences or make. I'm not a 4 stroker, "not that there is anything wrong with it."

4/23/2010 3:20 PM

Gotta applaud KTM for their motocross efforts the last ten plus years here in the states. Just keep getting better and better. The big 4 act like they could care less about the moto market dropping the 2 strokes, making the 4 strokes heavier than a pig at auction and even dropping minis altogether. Is it really true that after killing off the CR85 that Honda is now killing off their cam cracking, valve munching CRF150R?

Go KTM!!

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4/23/2010 4:44 PM

newmann wrote:

Gotta applaud KTM for their motocross efforts the last ten plus years here in the states. Just keep getting better and better. The big 4 act like they could care less about the moto market dropping the 2 strokes, making the 4 strokes heavier than a pig at auction and even dropping minis altogether. Is it really true that after killing off the CR85 that Honda is now killing off their cam cracking, valve munching CRF150R?

Go KTM!!

They are a respectable option now, and the big four know it.

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4/23/2010 5:01 PM

WhKnuckle wrote:

It's just my opinion, but I think it'll be the best amateur bike ever built; and I think Alessi is going to be at a big disadvantage in the Nationals on it. He's a holeshot-and-lead guy; put him in 10th at the start and he's in trouble. And that's where he is going to be on the 350 against the rest of the guys in the Nationals.

BobbyM wrote:

MIKE has proven he can pass last year at hangtown. is it as good as the suzy...no fucking way.

Hey you one legged pirate, its better than a suzuki

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4/23/2010 5:35 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/23/2010 5:36 PM

May have to change your user name to "TeamOrange" !!

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4/23/2010 5:42 PM

WhKnuckle wrote:

It's just my opinion, but I think it'll be the best amateur bike ever built; and I think Alessi is going to be at a big disadvantage in the Nationals on it. He's a holeshot-and-lead guy; put him in 10th at the start and he's in trouble. And that's where he is going to be on the 350 against the rest of the guys in the Nationals.

BobbyM wrote:

MIKE has proven he can pass last year at hangtown. is it as good as the suzy...no fucking way.

need love wrote:

Hey you one legged pirate, its better than a suzuki

A factory Suzuki that has input from both R.C and Reed.

I doubt that.

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flarider wrote: I don't know shit
and I am damn glad for that

4/23/2010 5:54 PM

KTM 450 has the most powerfull 450 and i've heard rumours of the 350 being only 3HP down on it.

Combined with lower weight, centralized mass(just like the YZF450), i dont think the bike will hold Mikey back.

AC holeshotted that thing in wet sandy conditions, i bet Mike can do the same.

Glen Helen is the only track were the 350 will be a bit underpowered, with those big uphills.
AC reported that also after Bulgaria, which also has some steep uphills.

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Roger DeCoster, Team Manager: I have to thank Tony and Jeffrey for the riding lessons; you guys were unbelievable.

4/23/2010 6:05 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/17/2016 10:21 PM

BobbyM wrote:

MIKE has proven he can pass last year at hangtown. is it as good as the suzy...no fucking way.

need love wrote:

Hey you one legged pirate, its better than a suzuki

Farva wrote:

A factory Suzuki that has input from both R.C and Reed.

I doubt that.

In all fairness to KTM: for the past, what, 5 years now...?

They've put in a HELL of an effort to get to where they are at, now.

Then there's the very simple fact that the VERY production based Factory bike is leading the GPs.

Not to mention that the 2011 pre-prod bikes have an "attention to detail" that's very "f u, Japan!"

Even the bodywork (rear-fender/panels) is pretty "next-level".

I'm jumpin' in jus' because I really like where they're headed & I like the premise/objective of the 350 project: "Best of Both Worlds", indeed.

Then there's this: What other Manufacturer is gonna build you a Works Bike for under $15-18K?(Depending on how silly you get since some of their own riders don't use all the hi-dollar stuff).

I'm jus' sayin'...

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

4/23/2010 6:14 PM

TeamGreen wrote:

In all fairness to KTM: for the past, what, 5 years now...?

They've put in a HELL of an effort to get to where they are at, now.

Then there's the very simple fact that the VERY production based Factory bike is leading the GPs.

Not to mention that the 2011 pre-prod bikes have an "attention to detail" that's very "f u, Japan!"

Even the bodywork (rear-fender/panels) is pretty "next-level".

I'm jumpin' in jus' because I really like where they're headed & I like the premise/objective of the 350 project: "Best of Both Worlds", indeed.

Then there's this: What other Manufacturer is gonna build you a Works Bike for under $15-18K?(Depending on how silly you get since some of their own riders don't use all the hi-dollar stuff).

I'm jus' sayin'...

I'd bet the KTM is a great bike, but would you want to put it head to head against a factory Suzuki with input from Reed and RC?

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flarider wrote: I don't know shit
and I am damn glad for that

4/23/2010 6:33 PM

Farva wrote:

A factory Suzuki that has input from both R.C and Reed.

I doubt that.

TeamGreen wrote:

In all fairness to KTM: for the past, what, 5 years now...?

They've put in a HELL of an effort to get to where they are at, now.

Then there's the very simple fact that the VERY production based Factory bike is leading the GPs.

Not to mention that the 2011 pre-prod bikes have an "attention to detail" that's very "f u, Japan!"

Even the bodywork (rear-fender/panels) is pretty "next-level".

I'm jumpin' in jus' because I really like where they're headed & I like the premise/objective of the 350 project: "Best of Both Worlds", indeed.

Then there's this: What other Manufacturer is gonna build you a Works Bike for under $15-18K?(Depending on how silly you get since some of their own riders don't use all the hi-dollar stuff).

I'm jus' sayin'...

Farva wrote:

I'd bet the KTM is a great bike, but would you want to put it head to head against a factory Suzuki with input from Reed and RC?

Actually, once you involve a Reed or an RC in the K-T-M program...this won't be an issue.

And, they may be doing just that with their current GP winner.

I know EXACTLY where you're coming from because I make some of the hard-ware that's involved in developing the bikes for the US-teams.

The points I make about this new bike are part-n-parcel to KTM taking care of the few issues that have allowed them to be jus' a lil behind the others.

Besides, we haven't even seen the new 450 (Well, not officially...).

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

4/23/2010 7:18 PM

BobbyM wrote:

MIKE has proven he can pass last year at hangtown. is it as good as the suzy...no fucking way.

need love wrote:

Hey you one legged pirate, its better than a suzuki

Farva wrote:

A factory Suzuki that has input from both R.C and Reed.

I doubt that.

Everts practicly build that bike, must be shit, only Euro titles.

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Roger DeCoster, Team Manager: I have to thank Tony and Jeffrey for the riding lessons; you guys were unbelievable.

4/23/2010 7:41 PM

I'll buy a 350 when one of the big 4 make one. Every person I know that has had a KTM has had nothing but problems....

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4/23/2010 9:06 PM

Trent179 wrote:

I'll buy a 350 when one of the big 4 make one. Every person I know that has had a KTM has had nothing but problems....

How many people is that?

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4/23/2010 9:20 PM

need love wrote:

Hey you one legged pirate, its better than a suzuki

Farva wrote:

A factory Suzuki that has input from both R.C and Reed.

I doubt that.

brakkeman_ wrote:

Everts practicly build that bike, must be shit, only Euro titles.

Yes , he`s just some amature, never won any national. He knows nothing about bikeswhistling

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4/23/2010 9:21 PM

WhKnuckle wrote:

It's just my opinion, but I think it'll be the best amateur bike ever built; and I think Alessi is going to be at a big disadvantage in the Nationals on it. He's a holeshot-and-lead guy; put him in 10th at the start and he's in trouble. And that's where he is going to be on the 350 against the rest of the guys in the Nationals.

No way not at all....not even close. That bike will be more than competitive, didn't you hear the pulpmx interview with Tony Alessi when they said the engine has 10lbs less rotating mass and the bike is almost dead on with a 450 in terms of hp....with that light weight both in the engine and the bike itself I believe the bike will actually be an advantage for Mike Alessi. In the racerx video they has of #800 out at perris the mechanic said they were almost even with the 450 and KTM currently makes the best 450 and 250f engines so I'd assume they have a good bike to build a base off of.....mark my words the KTM 350 will be more than competitive especially with a kid that only weighs 160lbs.

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4/23/2010 9:29 PM

Trent179 wrote:

I'll buy a 350 when one of the big 4 make one. Every person I know that has had a KTM has had nothing but problems....

Faceaz wrote:

How many people is that?

3 people. They have 08, and 09 450's. Not sure what the third person is on. I have never seen bikes fuck up more in my life! The 2009 has had the case split on it 3 times. They take it to the KTM dealer also, so it's not like they are just putting stuff together wrong. I can remember quite a few years ago when ktm 125's were the craze. Those bikes couldn't keep a crank together for nothing! Maybe it's coinsidence, but from my experience ktm's kinda stink.

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4/24/2010 2:03 PM

Trent179 wrote:

I'll buy a 350 when one of the big 4 make one. Every person I know that has had a KTM has had nothing but problems....

Considering Suzuki can't even sell 2010's here in the states, who exactly are you referring to as the Big 4? LMAO

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4/24/2010 2:24 PM

KTM is a great engine company... Every one of their bikes is pretty much at the top of the power charts for each class... So I am sure the 350 will pump it out just fine...

Interesting Reedy saying his factory RMZ450 was 15 pounds heavier than Steve Ramons bike... Can you imagine riding that or Cairoli's factory 350, it'd be like a downhill bike with an engine!

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Cheers, Crush
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4/24/2010 3:34 PM

WhKnuckle wrote:

It's just my opinion, but I think it'll be the best amateur bike ever built; and I think Alessi is going to be at a big disadvantage in the Nationals on it. He's a holeshot-and-lead guy; put him in 10th at the start and he's in trouble. And that's where he is going to be on the 350 against the rest of the guys in the Nationals.

BobbyM wrote:

MIKE has proven he can pass last year at hangtown. is it as good as the suzy...no fucking way.

Mikes best year ever on a 450 outdoors was on his KTM!!!

On top of that that Italian guy seems to be doing just fine on the other side of the pond with the 350.

If Mike gets beat this summer it not going to be because of his bike.



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4/24/2010 4:53 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/17/2016 10:22 PM

WhKnuckle wrote:

It's just my opinion, but I think it'll be the best amateur bike ever built; and I think Alessi is going to be at a big disadvantage in the Nationals on it. He's a holeshot-and-lead guy; put him in 10th at the start and he's in trouble. And that's where he is going to be on the 350 against the rest of the guys in the Nationals.

All riders are great when they get holeshots. There are only a hand full of riders in the history of this sport that have the ability to win a race when they are outside the top 10 off the start.

Mike Alessi might be the best starter this sport has ever seen. His 350 will not hold him back.

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4/24/2010 4:57 PM

WideOpen wrote:

Mikes best year ever on a 450 outdoors was on his KTM!!!

On top of that that Italian guy seems to be doing just fine on the other side of the pond with the 350.

If Mike gets beat this summer it not going to be because of his bike.



The only reason it was his best year was because he finished those years...

He was faster on the Zook... Not necessarily because of the bike but he was definitely faster, just got injured...

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Cheers, Crush
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4/24/2010 5:06 PM

I like ktm because they have the stones to make new bikes ala the 150 or 350.

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4/24/2010 5:06 PM

The cost of racing will go up if the rules change and the 350 becomes the new displacement size for the thumper's. Big pocket and OEM teams will have the advantage just as they did in the days of the 250s.

Leave the 450s alone and allow the two stroke up to 500 cc.

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Jim Martin