The Innovators and Game Changers of racing

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7/25/2018 10:56 AM

JMB.. he was the one that sussed out having a US passport doesnt gift you 3 seconds a lap. While Euro riders had been before him, he was the first one to take the SX challenge after winning 2 World MX series , andwinning at SX and taking National titles outdoors.

Then he goes road racing, qualifies on the back row of a 250 GP , and ends up on hte front row of a 500GP in 3 seasons. Without his head injury he would have challenged for WC in 500... my friend was his mechanic at Yamaha , and he said the guy was unbelievable on and off the bike

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7/25/2018 11:21 AM

Eli tomac and dont know what youre doing during time off

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7/25/2018 11:36 AM

Surprised nobody has mentioned Steve Wise yet.

He won in MX, SX and roadracing on Superbikes. He also was on the podium for AMA flat track. Won 2 ABC "Superbikers" events too!

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7/25/2018 12:22 PM

Kelz87 wrote:

Those are some pretty good ones actually. I hadn’t thought of how private factory teams have come into play with Suzuki the ...more

I would argue private factory teams started with McGrath.

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7/25/2018 12:22 PM

mark_swart wrote:

A lot of great examples so far.

It's premature now, but when all is said and done I think Herlings will be on this type of ...more

x2. would've loved to see prime time JS7 vs Herlings.

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Ride like a girl!!!
2016 KTM 500 EXC-F
Current project: 2007 Kawasaki KX250-R7 retro build
Current project #2: 1987 Kawasaki KX250-E1 rider/racer resto
1989 KX125 resto
1987 RM250 resto

7/25/2018 12:25 PM

Mike_Frisk wrote:

Pro Circuit!!!!

-MAVERICK- wrote:

First team with a semi truck I believe.

Factory Kawi was first with a semi.

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7/25/2018 12:31 PM

goony wrote:

Eli tomac and dont know what youre doing during time off

Seriously man..that dude keeps his personal life on the down-low. I’m the same way tho, wish I was his friend

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7/25/2018 12:36 PM

ACBraap wrote:

I would argue private factory teams started with McGrath.

Which team was that?

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7/25/2018 12:41 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/25/2018 12:53 PM

Husqvarna for bringing race quality two stroke dirt bikes to the public (early 70s)

Steve McQueen for bringing motocross to the mainstream (1971)

Yamaha for introducing the first single shock rear suspension (1973)

Harley-Davidson first American made motocross bike (1974 MX250)

Suzuki to first master long-travel single shock rear suspension (1981-83)

Yamaha for bringing liquid cooling to production bikes (1982)

Kawasaki for being the first to have disk brakes on front (1982) and rear (1986)

Yamaha for having the first variable exhaust valve (1982 YZ250 aka YPVS)

Kawasaki for being the first (and only) to put an exhaust valve on a 500 (1986)

Honda for evolving motocross ergonomics by shifting the expansion chamber down (lowboy pipe, 1988 CR250)

Yamaha for developing and bringing the modern four-stroke MX bike to production (1998)

Cannondale for producing the first backwards facing engine (exhaust out the back, intake in the front) (2001)

Cannondale for first EFI four stroke motocross bike (2002)

David Vuillemin for innovating goon riding (2000's)

Jimmy Albertson for bringing goon riding to the mainstream (2010's)

KTM for being the first to implement electronic injection on a two stroke (2018)

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Ride like a girl!!!
2016 KTM 500 EXC-F
Current project: 2007 Kawasaki KX250-R7 retro build
Current project #2: 1987 Kawasaki KX250-E1 rider/racer resto
1989 KX125 resto
1987 RM250 resto

7/25/2018 12:42 PM

Kelz87 wrote:

Those are some pretty good ones actually. I hadn’t thought of how private factory teams have come into play with Suzuki the ...more

ACBraap wrote:

I would argue private factory teams started with McGrath.

Kelz87 wrote:

Which team was that?

His Chaparral Yamaha team. 1998 to 2002.

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7/25/2018 1:08 PM

queen of spodes wrote: Husqvarna for bringing race quality two stroke dirt bikes to the public (early 70s)

Steve McQueen for bringing motocross to ...more

That’s an outstanding report. I think you just tested out of next semester.

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7/25/2018 2:35 PM

Ronnie Mac for ridin' fast and eatin' ass

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7/25/2018 2:42 PM

Jeff Alessi for mastering the laser pointer

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7/25/2018 2:49 PM

MrKnowNothing wrote:

Jeff Alessi for mastering the laser pointer

Saw him running the SX Mini series the other night at Milestone. I was like "oh that's where ya went". Pretty cool he's doing that though. Looked to have a pretty good turnout with some talented kids.

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7/25/2018 3:01 PM

There may not be a racing history, yet. But no one has changed the game like...

ALTA

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7/25/2018 3:16 PM

Nuffsaid wrote:

Everts up on pegs style

Joel Robert was way ahead of him. And everybody else.

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7/25/2018 3:22 PM

goony wrote:

Eli tomac and dont know what youre doing during time off

Kelz87 wrote:

Seriously man..that dude keeps his personal life on the down-low. I’m the same way tho, wish I was his friend

It was just a bad joke, his answer about that made me laugh, im cheering for him every weekend

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7/25/2018 3:22 PM

Brad Lackey
Original “On Any Sunday”

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@TONY351KTM

7/25/2018 3:42 PM

The biggest innovator is - Time

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7/25/2018 4:26 PM

ACBraap wrote:

I would argue private factory teams started with McGrath.

Kelz87 wrote:

Which team was that?

ACBraap wrote:

His Chaparral Yamaha team. 1998 to 2002.

1991, Mitch's Peak Honda Team was a private factory team that McGrath was on

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7/25/2018 4:35 PM

Kelz87 wrote:

Which team was that?

ACBraap wrote:

His Chaparral Yamaha team. 1998 to 2002.

AHRMA361 wrote:

1991, Mitch's Peak Honda Team was a private factory team that McGrath was on

And Peak Honda was absolutely a game changer, but it wasn't in the premier class, and it was as much Honda outsourcing the 125 team to Peak as it was an outside team. Where McGrath's Chaparral team competed with the factory Yamaha team, and was the first private team to win a premier class championship.

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7/25/2018 4:49 PM

McGrath always stayed way lower over jumps than everyone else. He would hit them at a higher speed and soak up the jump with his legs to get less height so the wheels could get back on the ground sooner. It was part of his technique that was a hold over from his BMX days. It was one of the things that made him faster lap after lap and he would set up passes over jumps doing it. It was cool to watch !
John

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7/25/2018 4:49 PM

neither ricky Carmichael nor bob hannah set the bar for fitness, and bob Hannah probably couldn't bench 120 lbs. jeff ward was one of the "fittest" riders of his era and roger decoster was one of the fittest in his, but many were dedicated and worked out a lot. rick johnson and brad lackey are 2 others. mark Barnett was extremely fit as well, however, marty tripes proved that if you have superior skill, you can be overweight and eat cheeseburgers or burritos etc every day and still spank everyone on sunday.

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7/25/2018 4:55 PM

"Kawasaki for being the first (and only) to put an exhaust valve on a 500 (1986)"

I did some of the testing on this exact bike when I worked for kawi in the r & d department . it pinged like an arcade game but was stupidly fast and would nearly yank ones arms out of their sockets if they got too far back from the bars.

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7/25/2018 4:58 PM

"Larry Roseler for proving you don't have to be on a big CC bike to win (Eric Halgath continued to prove that)"

Jeff fredette also on the killer kdx's if the topic includes enduros.

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7/25/2018 6:32 PM

barnett468 wrote:

"Kawasaki for being the first (and only) to put an exhaust valve on a 500 (1986)"

I did some of the testing on this exact ...more

Story time?

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7/25/2018 7:07 PM

queen of spodes wrote: Husqvarna for bringing race quality two stroke dirt bikes to the public (early 70s)

Steve McQueen for bringing motocross to ...more

2 Things. Please correct me if I am wrong, but this is how I thought of these.

-Harley Davidson. Not an expert, but my dad had one and if I recall correctly it wasn't very American. It was Italian. At least the motor was.

-Yamaha developing the modern 4stroke? KTM(Lance Smail) had one before that. It was Henry though, that proved it was competitive and could win.

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7/25/2018 7:13 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/25/2018 7:15 PM

Mike Goodwin

Reliable, inexpensive Japanese bikes. (not so inexpensive now)

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In my 60’s and still loving dirt scoots up here in the frozen north.

2021 Husky 501s

7/25/2018 7:20 PM

Doddy wrote:

Henry.........

Kelz87 wrote:

Henry and 4 strokes?

Lance smailsmile

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7/25/2018 7:22 PM

Doddy wrote:

Henry.........

Kelz87 wrote:

Henry and 4 strokes?

RickyRoss519 wrote:

Lance smailsmile

Look at my last reply wink

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