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As someone who once lived in The City but now lives out in the country, let me just say that city people are ALWAYS trying to boss around country people, it's just part of their provincial arrogance and indicative of their paucity of common sense; and country people usually listen and comply, as their common sense tells them it's better to just let those smug, condescending soot- breathers have their way, if only because it makes it less likely they'll begin to wonder how much better living in the country is - BUT - there's a limit. And that limit has pretty much been reached.
Where I live, you don't let your friends accept a rental car that has Massachusetts or New York plates, 'cause that would be seen as cruel.
And now you know.
As of today there are a grand total of 35,881 cases and 1,332 deaths for the state. It shows active cases as 31,212. So if we subtract the deaths from the total cases that leaves 34,549. Subtract the total active cases and that leaves you with 3,337 recovered people.
So since this has all started, you're telling me worldometers is a solid source of info when they are only pulling together data from what other sites feed them? Of 35,881 cases reported in California in the last couple months and only 3,337 people have recovered?!!
I'm sure it's a source of info, but it certainly isn't the end all be all of numbers. LA county specifically said in a PC they aren't tracking recoveries because they aren't doing secondary testing to clear a once positive test. Not everyone doing drive through tests are coming back for second and third rounds to track recovery. They don't have the equipment for it so the numbers are bogus.
The Shop
I mean, if what you guys are saying is true, the government shot the economy in both feet for nothing, and the morons don’t know how to count deaths, they are so easily mislead by scientists etc.
So you guys will be turfing them out yeah?
The alternative party is 1 million times worse when it comes to freedom. If you put government in charge of your healthcare then they control you. Same thing if the majority of the population is on unemployment or food stamps. They control you. This is just a sample of what it would be like. It should scare the shit out of everyone. The party in charge now has realized their mistake and is trying to correct it by getting us all back to work and self sufficient. The guy running in opposition doesn’t even know what day it is or what state he’s in. Why would you even suggest that? Ridiculous!
The previous administration went 8 years, each year had a flu which is apparently just as deadly, and they never shut down the economy and ordered people to stay in.
I do disagree with the statement “if you put the government in control of healthcare, they control you”
Well pretty much every developed nation has the government controlling healthcare, and I certainly don’t feel controlled by my government.
And as an added benefit, I have read many complaints on this board about the numbers being inflated because hospitals get more money from the government to treat covid cases.
Well we don’t really have the problem of private health care trying to rip off the government.
Please understand I am just trying to challenge peoples beliefs and try and understand said beliefs a little more.
Some people need to take a look at who is in charge of the cities that are in the worst shape. They are all run by them. They have the worst crime rates, drug problems, murders, and economies.
I personally think it was a great move, because I think this is much worse than the seasonal flu.
Quarantine was put in place to slow the spread and not overload the hospitals. It was never intended to (and will not) eliminate the virus.
Also, why would an all-seeing and loving god make America great and not the entire planet? Why does he/she hate Somalia? I have so many questions...
I agree it was a good move but I don’t see how anyone can possibly argue that it is both not worse than the flu, yet still a good idea to close the borders.
The 2 statements are mutually exclusive.
Pit Row
They have had a little over 20,000 deaths from Covid in a touch over a month.
So they have had 4 flu seasons compressed into a month and it’s still going.
Not trying to downplay NYC. What’s going on there is terrible. But the rest of the country is not NYC.
Again, quarantine was intended to meter this thing out. Flatten the curve, not eliminate it.
It's been admitted by Fauci himself that if someone died of a heart attack, but happened to have Covid at the time of death, they are putting down Covid-19 as the cause of death. Those death rates are super inflated and it's been discussed and reasoned why a million times over...$$$.
Like i have said, I do understand the balance of when to open the ecomomy back up vs public safety debate, and I respect other opinions on that.
Its only when people say that this is no worse than the flu that i shake my head.
And whilst its not 20,000. it sure as heck aint 2,000 either.
I trust you are livid at the governments mishandling over the $$$ causing this over inflated number?
And i agree, listen to guys like Fauci, is he saying this is no worse than the flu?
Please understand the only thing here that I vehamntly oppose is people saying its no worse than the flu. that is rediculious, and if anyone actually thinks that, they should also think that the government is the most incompotent group of buffoons to ever run a gas station let alone a country.
I think it is important to discuss issues, and try to understand others opinions. as long as it is done respectfully. which for the most part i think was the case in this thread.
We might agree on some things, disagree on others, or maybe disagree on everything. But thats ok. opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. including me
Most of all, I hope everyone stays safe. Take care.
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