The Art of giving someones Factory Bike away.

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I always get a kick out of the threads and discussions that get started every time a rider gets hurt or is even rumored to be hurt.

Musquin hurt ? Give his bike to Billy Joe Bullfrog , oh hell no His bike should go to Never win Jim he's due.

Maybe RC will come back for one more spin with the Man.
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zehn 11/13/2018 1:50pm
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Cool story bro ?
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GuyB 11/13/2018 1:53pm
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By kick you mean cringe, right?
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Never Win Jim is an awesome name
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500guy 11/13/2018 1:58pm
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GuyB wrote:
By kick you mean cringe, right?
You better not get hurt, I will give your camera equipment away, Never got the shot Scott is waiting for his chance.
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Xeno 11/13/2018 2:01pm
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But Harry Huckabuck deserves a factory bike.

Really?

I'm pretty sure the best racers earned the best bikes.
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zehn 11/13/2018 2:04pm
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Swapmaster Sam was really hauling at the local races, maybe he should get the ride
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newmann 11/13/2018 3:31pm
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Factory Bike?? Neverwas Joe has an opening in his garage...just sayin’
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ga_pike 11/14/2018 4:57am
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While I get the point of this thread, from a sponsor's point of view, they are paying to have their name on the track. So a team like JGR with outside sponsors needs to have "backups" in place to fill slots in the ever growing event of injury. It seems you could make a decent living as a factory replacement rider. Work and practice with the top guys, help with testing, and fill in when needed.
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500guy 11/14/2018 5:16am
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ga_pike wrote:
While I get the point of this thread, from a sponsor's point of view, they are paying to have their name on the track. So a...
While I get the point of this thread, from a sponsor's point of view, they are paying to have their name on the track. So a team like JGR with outside sponsors needs to have "backups" in place to fill slots in the ever growing event of injury. It seems you could make a decent living as a factory replacement rider. Work and practice with the top guys, help with testing, and fill in when needed.
In a perfect world yes, but the Teams run on a budget and they already have riders, it's not as simple as just letting someone ride the bike.

I just think it's absurd that every time a rider has a crash people on here start trying to award rides and money to other riders with no connection to either side.
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GangGreen 11/14/2018 6:00am
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500guy stated," I just think it's absurd that every time a rider has a crash....."

While I agree with 500guy 99% of the time, I like the current trend. In the 1980's and 1990's when a factory rider was hurt, Jeff Ward, Ron Lechien, Ricky Johnson, the sweet factory bike just sat under the tent. Seemed like such a waste of a beautiful piece of racing machinery.
Plus, it gives hope to guys like Dean Wilson.
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newmann 11/14/2018 6:06am
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GangGreen wrote:
500guy stated," I just think it's absurd that every time a rider has a crash....." While I agree with 500guy 99% of the time, I like...
500guy stated," I just think it's absurd that every time a rider has a crash....."

While I agree with 500guy 99% of the time, I like the current trend. In the 1980's and 1990's when a factory rider was hurt, Jeff Ward, Ron Lechien, Ricky Johnson, the sweet factory bike just sat under the tent. Seemed like such a waste of a beautiful piece of racing machinery.
Plus, it gives hope to guys like Dean Wilson.
Then those guys like Dean Wilson get bashed for dumping their gear sponsors to go take a ride with another team that has different gear contracts....

Seen it before, haven't we? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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ga_pike 11/14/2018 6:40am
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ga_pike wrote:
While I get the point of this thread, from a sponsor's point of view, they are paying to have their name on the track. So a...
While I get the point of this thread, from a sponsor's point of view, they are paying to have their name on the track. So a team like JGR with outside sponsors needs to have "backups" in place to fill slots in the ever growing event of injury. It seems you could make a decent living as a factory replacement rider. Work and practice with the top guys, help with testing, and fill in when needed.
500guy wrote:
In a perfect world yes, but the Teams run on a budget and they already have riders, it's not as simple as just letting someone ride...
In a perfect world yes, but the Teams run on a budget and they already have riders, it's not as simple as just letting someone ride the bike.

I just think it's absurd that every time a rider has a crash people on here start trying to award rides and money to other riders with no connection to either side.
This is an internet forum where interested fans speculate on the sport they love. During the season, much of that speculation revolves around who deserves to fill in for an injured rider while they are out. The precedent has already been set that in many cases, if a rider is going to be out for and extended period of time, the team is going to identify a replacement. Again, this is mainly to satisfy sponsors who want their name on the track.

As far as budget, it seems to me that some teams have taken this into account and have guys specifically slotted as fill in's. Nicoletti is a perfect example while he was at JGR... and it paid off for both JGR and Phil. Kudos to JGR for working with him to allow him out of that contract to move to Husky last year as well. The idea that a team keep one guy on a limited salary for testing and opportunity as a fill in seems fairly reasonable AND necessary.

Obviously, some guys like Wilson may not be right for a full time backup role (he should be a full series guy IMO). But there are others who fit this mold exactly. Nicoletti was one. I think pre-JGR, Peick was maybe another. Grant could be a potential guy for this type of role. The other option would be to use a satellite team in this type of role Have a deal where MCR gets factory support and in the event an HRC guy goes down, Brayton, Mookie, or Friese can step right up to fill in (example scenario only). The publicity from the move alone would provide lots of sponsor attention for both teams.
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seth505 11/14/2018 8:26am
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Billy Joe Bullfrog is addicted to pain killers, DO NOT put him on a factory bike. My ex girlfriends cousins sisters roommate is a nurse and she saw him steal pills.
SmokinJoe439 11/14/2018 9:01am
11/14/2018 9:01am
Jerry was a race car driver
He'd never did win no checkered flags
But he'd never did come in last.

Jerry was a race car driver
He'd say Hell yes I'm number one
With a 446 sticker on the side of his 442
He'd light'em up just for fun.

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loftyair 11/14/2018 9:13am
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SmokinJoe439 wrote:
Jerry was a race car driver He'd never did win no checkered flags But he'd never did come in last. Jerry was a race car driver...
Jerry was a race car driver
He'd never did win no checkered flags
But he'd never did come in last.

Jerry was a race car driver
He'd say Hell yes I'm number one
With a 446 sticker on the side of his 442
He'd light'em up just for fun.

Primus!
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loftyair 11/14/2018 9:14am
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500guy wrote:
I always get a kick out of the threads and discussions that get started every time a rider gets hurt or is even rumored to be...
I always get a kick out of the threads and discussions that get started every time a rider gets hurt or is even rumored to be hurt.

Musquin hurt ? Give his bike to Billy Joe Bullfrog , oh hell no His bike should go to Never win Jim he's due.

Maybe RC will come back for one more spin with the Man.
Hey 500guy, start a thread with those great names!

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BobPA 11/14/2018 9:17am
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SmokinJoe439 wrote:
Jerry was a race car driver He'd never did win no checkered flags But he'd never did come in last. Jerry was a race car driver...
Jerry was a race car driver
He'd never did win no checkered flags
But he'd never did come in last.

Jerry was a race car driver
He'd say Hell yes I'm number one
With a 446 sticker on the side of his 442
He'd light'em up just for fun.

With a BOCEPHUS sticker on his 442 is the correct lyric...
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GrapeApe 11/14/2018 9:22am
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SmokinJoe439 wrote:
Jerry was a race car driver He'd never did win no checkered flags But he'd never did come in last. Jerry was a race car driver...
Jerry was a race car driver
He'd never did win no checkered flags
But he'd never did come in last.

Jerry was a race car driver
He'd say Hell yes I'm number one
With a 446 sticker on the side of his 442
He'd light'em up just for fun.

Wynona had a big brown beaver . . .
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Marty1028 11/14/2018 9:45am
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SmokinJoe439 wrote:
Jerry was a race car driver He'd never did win no checkered flags But he'd never did come in last. Jerry was a race car driver...
Jerry was a race car driver
He'd never did win no checkered flags
But he'd never did come in last.

Jerry was a race car driver
He'd say Hell yes I'm number one
With a 446 sticker on the side of his 442
He'd light'em up just for fun.

That song is awesome
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Tarz483 11/14/2018 9:51am
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We all know when a factory gets hurt that THIS is the team managers go to spot to see who they shoud pick for a replacement !
I mean where else would they look ? LOL
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Brad460 11/14/2018 9:52am
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GuyB wrote:
By kick you mean cringe, right?
500guy wrote:
You better not get hurt, I will give your camera equipment away, Never got the shot Scott is waiting for his chance.
Your opening comments were kind of lame..but I got to hand it to you..This was damn funny! Laughing

It's all how you frame it..
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psg119 11/14/2018 9:53am
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GuyB wrote:
By kick you mean cringe, right?
500guy wrote:
You better not get hurt, I will give your camera equipment away, Never got the shot Scott is waiting for his chance.
My name is Scott... I was born for this.Wink
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Talisker 11/14/2018 10:19am
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Back Door Sally deserves a shot!!! WoohooWoohooWoohoo
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Lucifa. 11/14/2018 11:13am
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Some yahoo on Vital the other day was saying give Musquin's ride to Dungey Laughing
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Bermworm 11/14/2018 5:43pm
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Yup. Please bring back the me 500 guy weeeee avatar.Thank you.

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