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Edited Date/Time
1/25/2012 7:55pm
All this talk about 2 stroke vs 4 stroke, is just that.....talk.
Some of you belters need to put your money where your mouth is.
We as consumers caused the two stroke to be gone, we have no-one to blame other than ourselves.
Dont buy any four-strokes. The manufacturers will soon get the message when KTM cant build enough 250SX's.
Why do you think Pro-Circuit has the cash to fund a race-team that puts new motors in every moto, thus destroying privateers? Too many people dropping too much cash on $1000 exhaust systems & anodized engine plugs.
I have a 09 250SX. I'll never buy another 4 stroke.
DC made the comment we must race what the OEMs build or they'll go home...
they all need to remember without US, the consumer, THEY have no bidness, I know who needs who more......
Oh yeah, this is post number 1, give it to me...
Some of you belters need to put your money where your mouth is.
We as consumers caused the two stroke to be gone, we have no-one to blame other than ourselves.
Dont buy any four-strokes. The manufacturers will soon get the message when KTM cant build enough 250SX's.
Why do you think Pro-Circuit has the cash to fund a race-team that puts new motors in every moto, thus destroying privateers? Too many people dropping too much cash on $1000 exhaust systems & anodized engine plugs.
I have a 09 250SX. I'll never buy another 4 stroke.
DC made the comment we must race what the OEMs build or they'll go home...
they all need to remember without US, the consumer, THEY have no bidness, I know who needs who more......
Oh yeah, this is post number 1, give it to me...
The Shop
Check my avatar and you see that I was struggling to moto big displacement four strokes back in the late '60s. I love my modern 450 thumper and will likely buy another new on in the next few months.
The rule-makers shoved this down our throat from the begining. Once the manufacturers got on board with it, there was no going back.
If you like 4-strokes, great, but even the rules up.
Youre gonna need a big Penn Senator and some serious stink bait.....
If you want two-strokes, you need to vote with your wallet...and that's from the companies that are currently producing them. Do I see Honda returning to them? No, they seem to have wanted to eliminate them based on environmental issues.
If you spend a dime and get a penny you lose. If you want two strokes to stay around, and even KTM... they will take advantage of this if they can, soon as they go red on the two strokes kiss them gone. You have to vote with your wallet. You have to purchase new. You have to show your loyalty to the manufactures that you want this bike.
Do it quick, in two years much can change.
Are you responding to what I said? Or some imaginary comment?
In the premier class you have two options and one has a significant advantage. If someone wanted to race and be competitive only one of those options was viable. That has absolutely nothing to do with the buying public liking one technology over the other.
The game was rigged. This happens all the time. Government does it via taxes and incentives. In this case, it was done via rules and rule makers that could not foresee the inequity the rules they put in place created.
Im not rich enough to stuff the ballot box any more than that.
If I was on a limited budget, say $250 a month was all I had to ride, I'd gladly ride a two stroke and have fun. It sure would beat not riding because I couldn't afford it.
Pit Row
The public was given a choice between two options. They chose performance.
That performance gap was born out of biased rules. Thus, the notion there was a "choice" was false.
If the rules had been equal CC's, would there have been a 4 stroke revolution?
If the rules had been equal CC's, would there have been a 4 stroke revolution?
But assuming that massive numbers of people are going to go down and buy a YZ250 when they have to race it against 450s in most local races is silly. And any young rider is going to ride the bike the pros ride, which is to say the vast majority of the motocross demographic has no interest in riding a two stroke unless the pros ride them.
The factories know the score - make sure two strokes don't get raced in the Nationals and they'll die. They did it to the 500s and they did it to the 125, now all they have to kill is the 250T and they're off to Nirvana selling $8000 450s that the buyer puts a $1000 pipe on before he loads it in the truck.
Its simple, buy a 2 stroke, or STFU.
I enjoy my racing more than ever right now, that joy is bought from passing pole-smokers on new 450's with PC pipes, on my (underpowered???) two stroke.
And I dont hate 4 strokes, just MX7MX.
And did you clowns miss I'm a noob?
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