The 2018 450 Shootout is LIVE!

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9/14/2017 6:35 PM

Here you all be! It's nearly 25,000 words long, a quarter of the average novel published...it took some serious work!

The article: http://www.vitalmx.com/features/2018-Vital-MX-450-Shootout,5510

And we're hosting a QNA this year!

The topic (it's stickied at the top of the forum): http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Forum-QNA-Vital-MX-450-Shootout,1326720

ENJOY!



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9/14/2017 6:38 PM

Boom!

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

9/14/2017 6:45 PM

Sweet

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9/14/2017 6:46 PM

well, there goes a productive afternoon at work.....

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Current: 2010 TM 250MX
Previous: 2012 KX450f, 2009 K8 RM250, 2012 RMZ250, 2008 YZ125

9/14/2017 6:50 PM

Damn i was hoping for a better report on the zook.

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9/14/2017 7:14 PM

Wow, lots of great info. Bummer about the RMZ, it looks so good! I wonder if you replace that rear shock how it would rank up?

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9/14/2017 7:22 PM

Honda has a big budget this year, obviously.

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9/14/2017 7:26 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/15/2017 10:00 AM

Some idiot (sorry, not very nice) put the Husky last...

Other than that, great job!

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9/14/2017 7:27 PM

Photo

I could have told you so.! I've got about 5 hours on mine and it's just getting better. Overall I'm very happy with it. It has handling trates of a gen 3 cr 250 mixed with a 2008 Crf 450. The forks pretty much suck for my standards but the shock is decent. And the engine just flat out rips when your on the "pipe".
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9/14/2017 7:27 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/14/2017 7:28 PM

ob wrote:

Honda has a big budget this year, obviously.

Have you ridden it? I spent an afternoon on a '17 CRF with an FMF system and RX hangers and was throughly impressed. Awesome chassis.

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9/14/2017 7:27 PM

Is there a noticeable difference between the electric start bikes starting time between the brands?

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9/14/2017 7:30 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/14/2017 7:31 PM

CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:

Wow, lots of great info. Bummer about the RMZ, it looks so good! I wonder if you replace that rear shock how it would rank up?

I honestly think a simple revalve/changing the rebound stack will fix it right up.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

9/14/2017 7:37 PM

JWACK wrote: Photo

I could have told you so.! I've got about 5 hours on mine and it's just getting better. Overall I'm very happy with it. It has handling trates of a gen 3 cr 250 mixed with a 2008 Crf 450. The forks pretty much suck for my standards but the shock is decent. And the engine just flat out rips when your on the "pipe".

Interesting feed back. I haven't ridden a better all around chassis / suspension combo than the 02-07 3rd gen AF CR250r. This shoot out pretty much convinced me to upgrade my 10 CRF450r model to the 18...

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Speak softly and carry a big stick.

9/14/2017 7:38 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/14/2017 9:08 PM

ob wrote:

Honda has a big budget this year, obviously.

twotwosix wrote:

Have you ridden it? I spent an afternoon on a '17 CRF with an FMF system and RX hangers and was throughly impressed. Awesome chassis.

Yes I've ridden it a bunch. 17 Stock one. Terrible clutch, super soft fork, (sounds like it's stiffer this year) average brakes. But good ergos, feels comfy except that seat is hard as a rock. One of the best bikes I've ridden. Besides a ktm husky

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9/14/2017 7:47 PM

JWACK wrote: Photo

I could have told you so.! I've got about 5 hours on mine and it's just getting better. Overall I'm very happy with it. It has handling trates of a gen 3 cr 250 mixed with a 2008 Crf 450. The forks pretty much suck for my standards but the shock is decent. And the engine just flat out rips when your on the "pipe".

H4L wrote:

Interesting feed back. I haven't ridden a better all around chassis / suspension combo than the 02-07 3rd gen AF CR250r. This shoot out pretty much convinced me to upgrade my 10 CRF450r model to the 18...

You won't be disappointed. I can't wait to ride mine again!

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9/14/2017 8:12 PM

Ok so I have to buy 4 bikes now cool

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9/14/2017 8:23 PM

I take it back, I rode the 17 Honda. Is the 18 fork better now? I'm sure the clutch is the same.

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9/14/2017 8:25 PM

Only watched the video so far but great work as always! Surprised with the results.

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9/14/2017 8:26 PM

Signing in for the drama.

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9/14/2017 8:26 PM

I think I'll still get the yamaha. I'll suck on all of em but I can get a good deal on one .

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9/14/2017 8:33 PM

ob wrote:

Honda has a big budget this year, obviously.

twotwosix wrote:

Have you ridden it? I spent an afternoon on a '17 CRF with an FMF system and RX hangers and was throughly impressed. Awesome chassis.

ob wrote:

Yes I've ridden it a bunch. 17 Stock one. Terrible clutch, super soft fork, (sounds like it's stiffer this year) average brakes. But good ergos, feels comfy except that seat is hard as a rock. One of the best bikes I've ridden. Besides a ktm husky

But what advantages does this bike have over, say, a 1,000cc sports bike, which I could also afford?

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9/14/2017 8:48 PM

Weldone everyone involved, good write up.
I'm not surprised much with the final outcome from the riders.
Although ML512 will be grey or balding by 30, you're doing a hell of a job with the shootouts, front runner in the shootout leauge. Enjoy that fresh mullet while you can..lol jk..

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"Nothing happens until something moves"

9/14/2017 8:50 PM

twotwosix wrote:

Have you ridden it? I spent an afternoon on a '17 CRF with an FMF system and RX hangers and was throughly impressed. Awesome chassis.

ob wrote:

Yes I've ridden it a bunch. 17 Stock one. Terrible clutch, super soft fork, (sounds like it's stiffer this year) average brakes. But good ergos, feels comfy except that seat is hard as a rock. One of the best bikes I've ridden. Besides a ktm husky

Barry_Smith wrote:

But what advantages does this bike have over, say, a 1,000cc sports bike, which I could also afford?

Every advantage possible, and way cooler

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9/14/2017 9:11 PM

ob wrote:

Yes I've ridden it a bunch. 17 Stock one. Terrible clutch, super soft fork, (sounds like it's stiffer this year) average brakes. But good ergos, feels comfy except that seat is hard as a rock. One of the best bikes I've ridden. Besides a ktm husky

Barry_Smith wrote:

But what advantages does this bike have over, say, a 1,000cc sports bike, which I could also afford?

ob wrote:

Every advantage possible, and way cooler

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9/14/2017 9:19 PM

CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:

Wow, lots of great info. Bummer about the RMZ, it looks so good! I wonder if you replace that rear shock how it would rank up?

TeamGreen wrote:

I honestly think a simple revalve/changing the rebound stack will fix it right up.

Agreed about the shock, and I don't care about the bloody E start! They start super easy now anyways. It's a safe bet there will be a new '18 RMZ in my shop before next summer.cool

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9/14/2017 9:21 PM

Basically they said if you go up a tooth in the rear on the yamaha and change the bars its just as good as any other bike.

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9/14/2017 9:54 PM

What I took from this was, everyone says the new Yamaha feels like a couch. And the RMZ and KXF still finish behind it.

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9/14/2017 10:04 PM

Great Job! Lots of info.

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"Who cares about what other people think"

9/14/2017 10:25 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/14/2017 10:27 PM

Nice

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9/14/2017 11:17 PM

Damn ML....good job! I haven't read it yet but it sounds like you guys really went to town on this one.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja