Test rode a TM

brocsdad
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3/6/2018 1:16pm Edited Date/Time 3/8/2018 6:49pm
My son and his friend test rode a TM 125 this past weekend and that's all I have heard about since. They both said the bike was faster than the mod KTM and YZ 125. It has a little less bottom but hit hard in the mid and revved to the moon. They also raved about the handing and the suspension worked really well though it was sprung a little stiff. They couldn't stop grinning after riding the bike.

I was a little skeptical about the exotic bikes but it looks like there will be one in a garage in the near future.

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How do you go on for parts over there sir?.
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Thats awesome to hear good feedback!
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3/6/2018 2:55pm Edited Date/Time 3/8/2018 4:56pm
#76 wrote:
How do you go on for parts over there sir?.
Ralph Schmidt moved to the states to promote the TM brand and has solved any parts issues. There are also several aftermarket companies making parts and several parts cross reference from the jap bikes.

My friend is buying a TM 125 for his son after this weekends test ride. It is supposed to arrive next Wednesday.

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I'm interested in reliability, I would love to race a TM, but when I asked my buds in Italy they said they were good bikes but didn't hold up well

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Few years old but I just picked up Cams 250 MX last weekend. Really looking forward to putting some time on it and setting it up. I'm coming off 3 06 RM 250s and a 13 250 SX.

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Let is know how it goes please
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I rode one in 2001 and it made my new cutting edge 2001 rm 125 feel really slow. Like you're saying it was soft on the bottom and came on like gang busters. Motor and ohlins shock stood out to me.Sweet bikes. Not sure you can even race them at lorettas if that is a concern?
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i have a 2012 300, it gets washed and ridden, and hasnt missed a beat , doesnt get ridden hard, but it was before i got it.. the 3 300 SMX's we have run, one seized cos we had it too lean on a fast track, other than that, nothing in over 100 hours across the 3 .
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I thought your son could not ride until summer?
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Uncle Tony wrote:
Let is know how it goes please
I figure it will be a good practice bike to keep me in shape for racing my Cagivas in your old Sinisalo pants!
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BobPA wrote:
I thought your son could not ride until summer?
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that point they will decide to move forward with the bone graft and tooth implant or wait until he is older. He just turned 15 and they may have to wait until he is 18. If we need to wait he will start riding again ASAP. If they want to move forward with the surgeries I will wait until that is over and then return. It will require 3 surgeries and healing time between each operation. This weekend was just a test ride on the TM.
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racer495a wrote:
I rode one in 2001 and it made my new cutting edge 2001 rm 125 feel really slow. Like you're saying it was soft on the...
I rode one in 2001 and it made my new cutting edge 2001 rm 125 feel really slow. Like you're saying it was soft on the bottom and came on like gang busters. Motor and ohlins shock stood out to me.Sweet bikes. Not sure you can even race them at lorettas if that is a concern?
Yes they are homolgated. They won the supermini class last year and placed 2nd in 250C on a 125. The kid would have won but crashed in a moto
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Uncle Tony wrote:
I'm interested in reliability, I would love to race a TM, but when I asked my buds in Italy they said they were good bikes but...
I'm interested in reliability, I would love to race a TM, but when I asked my buds in Italy they said they were good bikes but didn't hold up well
I have talked to the parents and that doesn’t seem to be an issue. The build quality is superior for sure. Though my friend just ordered his yesterday for his son and he is very particular. If they have issues I will most definitely hear about it.
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BobPA wrote:
I thought your son could not ride until summer?
brocsdad wrote:
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that...
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that point they will decide to move forward with the bone graft and tooth implant or wait until he is older. He just turned 15 and they may have to wait until he is 18. If we need to wait he will start riding again ASAP. If they want to move forward with the surgeries I will wait until that is over and then return. It will require 3 surgeries and healing time between each operation. This weekend was just a test ride on the TM.
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have him ride it back to back with another 125. The grass is always greener when you try something new..
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Uncle Tony wrote:
Let is know how it goes please
wpark89 wrote:
I figure it will be a good practice bike to keep me in shape for racing my Cagivas in your old Sinisalo pants!
Lol I scored a pair of Yolo John Van Der Berk psnts
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3/6/2018 5:50pm Edited Date/Time 3/6/2018 5:55pm
BobPA wrote:
I thought your son could not ride until summer?
brocsdad wrote:
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that...
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that point they will decide to move forward with the bone graft and tooth implant or wait until he is older. He just turned 15 and they may have to wait until he is 18. If we need to wait he will start riding again ASAP. If they want to move forward with the surgeries I will wait until that is over and then return. It will require 3 surgeries and healing time between each operation. This weekend was just a test ride on the TM.
BobPA wrote:
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have...
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have him ride it back to back with another 125. The grass is always greener when you try something new..
He knocked 4 teeth out and broke his jaw on New Year’s Eve at WW Ranch in FL. They saved 3 teeth but the bone was crushed so they couldn’t save the 4th one. He is back to normal except for a missing a bottom tooth. It could have been worse but his braces held the teeth. Like I said we will know more when I go back to the doc.

I can tell you the bike is badass! My friends son had a brand new Modded YZ 250 and was cutting faster laps on the TM. He is a very picky kid and he absolutely loved the power and handling. I will keep everyone posted on the reliability etc. I wanted to have the first one in the area but at least my buddy is the ginea pig. Though I think it’s going to be s great bike.
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BobPA wrote:
I thought your son could not ride until summer?
brocsdad wrote:
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that...
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that point they will decide to move forward with the bone graft and tooth implant or wait until he is older. He just turned 15 and they may have to wait until he is 18. If we need to wait he will start riding again ASAP. If they want to move forward with the surgeries I will wait until that is over and then return. It will require 3 surgeries and healing time between each operation. This weekend was just a test ride on the TM.
BobPA wrote:
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have...
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have him ride it back to back with another 125. The grass is always greener when you try something new..
X2 on the last sentence. I had my transmission take a crap in 2006 on my 05 kx250f at a trans-cal final showdown. I was able to ride a friends brand new 06 crf250. That weekend I felt awesome and the bike felt great. I loved it that weekend. We fixed my bike a few weeks later. Rode a Honda another 06 Honda a while later and hated every bit of it. It was nothing like my KX. Glad I didn’t try to make the switch for good.
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I really like the TM's, I wouldn't mind a go on the TM300 actually
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wpark89 wrote:
Few years old but I just picked up Cams 250 MX last weekend. Really looking forward to putting some time on it and setting it up...
Few years old but I just picked up Cams 250 MX last weekend. Really looking forward to putting some time on it and setting it up. I'm coming off 3 06 RM 250s and a 13 250 SX.

Looks good with your numbers on it!

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it. It’s nice to know that it went to someone who knows how to take care of a bike.

I found tacos in Omak, BTW! It was a great day!

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brocsdad wrote:
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that...
I have to go back to oral surgeon in June so he can take a lot at his jaw and how everything is healing. At that point they will decide to move forward with the bone graft and tooth implant or wait until he is older. He just turned 15 and they may have to wait until he is 18. If we need to wait he will start riding again ASAP. If they want to move forward with the surgeries I will wait until that is over and then return. It will require 3 surgeries and healing time between each operation. This weekend was just a test ride on the TM.
BobPA wrote:
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have...
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have him ride it back to back with another 125. The grass is always greener when you try something new..
brocsdad wrote:
He knocked 4 teeth out and broke his jaw on New Year’s Eve at WW Ranch in FL. They saved 3 teeth but the bone was...
He knocked 4 teeth out and broke his jaw on New Year’s Eve at WW Ranch in FL. They saved 3 teeth but the bone was crushed so they couldn’t save the 4th one. He is back to normal except for a missing a bottom tooth. It could have been worse but his braces held the teeth. Like I said we will know more when I go back to the doc.

I can tell you the bike is badass! My friends son had a brand new Modded YZ 250 and was cutting faster laps on the TM. He is a very picky kid and he absolutely loved the power and handling. I will keep everyone posted on the reliability etc. I wanted to have the first one in the area but at least my buddy is the ginea pig. Though I think it’s going to be s great bike.
Sorry to hear, hope he recovers fully. What kind of helmet was he wearing? Curious, what type of hit causes a broken jaw? My son broke 2 lower front teeth last month with a 6D helmet , endo’d over a rutted jump, still can’t understand what he hit them on...
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3/7/2018 1:16am Edited Date/Time 3/7/2018 1:17am
Me and my brother both ride TM.

Ive never had any majos issues with them.

Never had an Failure. Had one complete wiring loom replaced on Warranty

We had.

MX 300 2001 150+ Hours still going as backup. Factory Marzocchi Suspension

MX 300 2002 150+ hours Sold

MX 300 2010 150+ Hours Before sold

MX 300 2013 120 hours. Sold

EN 300 2st 2015 65 Hours. Sold

EN 300 2st 2015 40 hours Sold

MX 144 2015 20 hours Sold

EN 125 2st 2014 70 hours. Still going strong

MX 450F 2013 60 Hours. Sold

MX 450F 2015 70 hours still going

MX 450F 2015 50 hours. Sold

MX 300F 2016 20 hours still going

EN 300 2st 2016 20 hours. Sold


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Pretty sure Derek Harris (harrperf) is a dealer. Might send him a message
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Triple clamps bolts don't seem to be torqued properly in the first picture.
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Sheriff245 wrote:
Triple clamps bolts don't seem to be torqued properly in the first picture.
Bolts are flushed in triple clamp
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3/7/2018 6:43am Edited Date/Time 3/7/2018 6:46am
racer495a wrote:
I rode one in 2001 and it made my new cutting edge 2001 rm 125 feel really slow. Like you're saying it was soft on the...
I rode one in 2001 and it made my new cutting edge 2001 rm 125 feel really slow. Like you're saying it was soft on the bottom and came on like gang busters. Motor and ohlins shock stood out to me.Sweet bikes. Not sure you can even race them at lorettas if that is a concern?
brocsdad wrote:
Yes they are homolgated. They won the supermini class last year and placed 2nd in 250C on a 125. The kid would have won but crashed...
Yes they are homolgated. They won the supermini class last year and placed 2nd in 250C on a 125. The kid would have won but crashed in a moto
No, they are not. That is why they cannot race in SX or outdoors.

They are eligible for amateur racing but they aren’t homologated.
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cheers_22 wrote:
No, they are not. That is why they cannot race in SX or outdoors.

They are eligible for amateur racing but they aren’t homologated.
Amateur and pro racing homologation requirements are not the same.
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3/7/2018 8:14am Edited Date/Time 3/7/2018 8:21am
BobPA wrote:
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have...
Damn, sounds like a bad one. Best wishes for your son to heal up. My guess is he will like the TM. If you can, have him ride it back to back with another 125. The grass is always greener when you try something new..
brocsdad wrote:
He knocked 4 teeth out and broke his jaw on New Year’s Eve at WW Ranch in FL. They saved 3 teeth but the bone was...
He knocked 4 teeth out and broke his jaw on New Year’s Eve at WW Ranch in FL. They saved 3 teeth but the bone was crushed so they couldn’t save the 4th one. He is back to normal except for a missing a bottom tooth. It could have been worse but his braces held the teeth. Like I said we will know more when I go back to the doc.

I can tell you the bike is badass! My friends son had a brand new Modded YZ 250 and was cutting faster laps on the TM. He is a very picky kid and he absolutely loved the power and handling. I will keep everyone posted on the reliability etc. I wanted to have the first one in the area but at least my buddy is the ginea pig. Though I think it’s going to be s great bike.
Joko wrote:
Sorry to hear, hope he recovers fully. What kind of helmet was he wearing? Curious, what type of hit causes a broken jaw? My son broke...
Sorry to hear, hope he recovers fully. What kind of helmet was he wearing? Curious, what type of hit causes a broken jaw? My son broke 2 lower front teeth last month with a 6D helmet , endo’d over a rutted jump, still can’t understand what he hit them on...
I was at home in TN so I didn't see the crash. From what I was told he clipped a high speed jump and cartwheeled. The bike landed on top of him and the crossbar pushed between his helmet and chin in an upwards motion. We questioned if he would have been wearing a mouthpiece if it would have helped but with the way he hit the result would have been the same. Outside of the jaw/teeth he didn't have a scratch on him. He was wearing a JUST 1 helmet but we are switching over to new LS2 Subverter. Though the result would have been the same with whatever helmet he was wearing. It was the way he hit.
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PierreG wrote:
Me and my brother both ride TM. Ive never had any majos issues with them. Never had an Failure. Had one complete wiring loom replaced on...
Me and my brother both ride TM.

Ive never had any majos issues with them.

Never had an Failure. Had one complete wiring loom replaced on Warranty

We had.

MX 300 2001 150+ Hours still going as backup. Factory Marzocchi Suspension

MX 300 2002 150+ hours Sold

MX 300 2010 150+ Hours Before sold

MX 300 2013 120 hours. Sold

EN 300 2st 2015 65 Hours. Sold

EN 300 2st 2015 40 hours Sold

MX 144 2015 20 hours Sold

EN 125 2st 2014 70 hours. Still going strong

MX 450F 2013 60 Hours. Sold

MX 450F 2015 70 hours still going

MX 450F 2015 50 hours. Sold

MX 300F 2016 20 hours still going

EN 300 2st 2016 20 hours. Sold


So you had no issues selling them? That was probably my biggest concern.

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