Tennis elbow fix?

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Supplements? Vitamins?
How does hanging from a bar help?

Lots of good stuff to try..... thanks all!
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Moto520 wrote:
I had golfer's elbow not that long ago. I tried everything....topical oitments with CBD, anti-inflammatory medicine, ice/ heat, not using it, etc. Finally my doc gave...
I had golfer's elbow not that long ago. I tried everything....topical oitments with CBD, anti-inflammatory medicine, ice/ heat, not using it, etc. Finally my doc gave me a shot directly into the area and it went away. Get the shot!!!
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone.
After a few months the problems are coming back.
Every physiotherapist will strongly advise to take no cortisone injections.
A tenniselbow is a tendon problem not a muscle and tendons have poor blood circulation that's the reason why the healing takes a very long time, it's a typical mid forties ailment most of my age suffer from it.
Personally I have good experience with negative/eccentric bicep dumbbell curls, the pain is rising in the beginning but slowly goes away, don't take to much weight, around the 15 lbs is enought.
Raise the weight with the help of your other arm but lowered it slowly without help, if the pain is to much lower the weight, it strengthen your tendons and the muscles gonna be longer so that the stress on the tendon becomes less.
For the golfersarm I had a shockwaves therapy worked really well, you can do it you self with a sander of course without sandpaper, put the sander on your arm where the pain is located and let muscles gently vibrate.
Some Thai massage with no happy ending will also do a good job, but such an massage is good for the hole body especially for us Mxers.



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Reduce inflammation
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Definitely following this thread. Got it 2 years ago hanging a lot of iron, swinging hammers, and stuffing bolts. Got the shot and it went a way for a while but it has crept back, and hampers guitar playing.

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2/4/2020 6:46am
I had tennis arms during 2 years.The only thing that helped me was stretching......stretching....stretching!!!!
I found the exercices to stretch resp. the infos about tennis arms on the following swiss site which is in english language too:
http://tennisarm.ch/
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2/4/2020 7:26am
davis224 wrote:
Definitely following this thread. Got it 2 years ago hanging a lot of iron, swinging hammers, and stuffing bolts. Got the shot and it went a...
Definitely following this thread. Got it 2 years ago hanging a lot of iron, swinging hammers, and stuffing bolts. Got the shot and it went a way for a while but it has crept back, and hampers guitar playing.
2+ years ive been dealing with this probably because i was building my house swinging hammers and putting up t&g above my head. All the while still racing mx, shoveling too much snow, snowmobiling, training, weed wacking etc etc. All this during and after my 20 year programming job i used to do. Feeling better now but mainly just stretching and rowing daily.
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2/4/2020 8:46am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2020 8:48am
alex69 wrote:
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone. After a few months the problems are coming back...
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone.
After a few months the problems are coming back.
Every physiotherapist will strongly advise to take no cortisone injections.
A tenniselbow is a tendon problem not a muscle and tendons have poor blood circulation that's the reason why the healing takes a very long time, it's a typical mid forties ailment most of my age suffer from it.
Personally I have good experience with negative/eccentric bicep dumbbell curls, the pain is rising in the beginning but slowly goes away, don't take to much weight, around the 15 lbs is enought.
Raise the weight with the help of your other arm but lowered it slowly without help, if the pain is to much lower the weight, it strengthen your tendons and the muscles gonna be longer so that the stress on the tendon becomes less.
For the golfersarm I had a shockwaves therapy worked really well, you can do it you self with a sander of course without sandpaper, put the sander on your arm where the pain is located and let muscles gently vibrate.
Some Thai massage with no happy ending will also do a good job, but such an massage is good for the hole body especially for us Mxers.



That's not completely true of cortisone shots. It doesn't mask anything. While it should only be used sparingly. It will remove inflammation over the course of a few day and can have a lasting effect up to 6 weeks allowing the joint to heal. Cortisone shots are great for bursitis in the knee. While this should be used towards the end of your options sometimes it should be one of your first choices so as to not do more damage to the joint or tendons by having continuous inflammation and pain.
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Tuna wrote:
The only way to truly get rid of tennis elbow is to work the opposing muscles that are weak and do not get used. That’s the...
The only way to truly get rid of tennis elbow is to work the opposing muscles that are weak and do not get used. That’s the point of the ball. If all you do is grip and close the fist and do no exercise where you flex the muscles open everything else is pretty much a bandaid until you irritate it again.
Just ordered a set of these. Thanks!
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2/4/2020 9:32am
Tuna wrote:
The only way to truly get rid of tennis elbow is to work the opposing muscles that are weak and do not get used. That’s the...
The only way to truly get rid of tennis elbow is to work the opposing muscles that are weak and do not get used. That’s the point of the ball. If all you do is grip and close the fist and do no exercise where you flex the muscles open everything else is pretty much a bandaid until you irritate it again.
cslacker wrote:
Just ordered a set of these. Thanks!
Hope it works out for you!
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alex69 wrote:
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone. After a few months the problems are coming back...
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone.
After a few months the problems are coming back.
Every physiotherapist will strongly advise to take no cortisone injections.
A tenniselbow is a tendon problem not a muscle and tendons have poor blood circulation that's the reason why the healing takes a very long time, it's a typical mid forties ailment most of my age suffer from it.
Personally I have good experience with negative/eccentric bicep dumbbell curls, the pain is rising in the beginning but slowly goes away, don't take to much weight, around the 15 lbs is enought.
Raise the weight with the help of your other arm but lowered it slowly without help, if the pain is to much lower the weight, it strengthen your tendons and the muscles gonna be longer so that the stress on the tendon becomes less.
For the golfersarm I had a shockwaves therapy worked really well, you can do it you self with a sander of course without sandpaper, put the sander on your arm where the pain is located and let muscles gently vibrate.
Some Thai massage with no happy ending will also do a good job, but such an massage is good for the hole body especially for us Mxers.



I think that the cortisone takes the inflammation down enough so that the irritated tendons get a chance to heal. It works in the same way that taking a month off from hard use would help.

Anyways....mine kind of came back a little but not as bad as it was prior to the injection.

Another thing to consider.....try changing your handlebar position or handlebar bend. This helped me a little.

So....to summarize:

1) rest/ heat/ ice on the elbow
2) CBD/ topical cream on the elbow (i have some great stuff for this that gets prescribed for knee problems.....my doctor said to use it for the elbow)
3) Stretch your tendon/ muscles and the surrounding areas
4) use a tennis elbow strap
5) adjust your handlebars in a manner that makes the pain subside.
6) cortisone shot....last thing to try if all else fails. They want to save this as the final defense.
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alex69 wrote:
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone. After a few months the problems are coming back...
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone.
After a few months the problems are coming back.
Every physiotherapist will strongly advise to take no cortisone injections.
A tenniselbow is a tendon problem not a muscle and tendons have poor blood circulation that's the reason why the healing takes a very long time, it's a typical mid forties ailment most of my age suffer from it.
Personally I have good experience with negative/eccentric bicep dumbbell curls, the pain is rising in the beginning but slowly goes away, don't take to much weight, around the 15 lbs is enought.
Raise the weight with the help of your other arm but lowered it slowly without help, if the pain is to much lower the weight, it strengthen your tendons and the muscles gonna be longer so that the stress on the tendon becomes less.
For the golfersarm I had a shockwaves therapy worked really well, you can do it you self with a sander of course without sandpaper, put the sander on your arm where the pain is located and let muscles gently vibrate.
Some Thai massage with no happy ending will also do a good job, but such an massage is good for the hole body especially for us Mxers.



Moto520 wrote:
I think that the cortisone takes the inflammation down enough so that the irritated tendons get a chance to heal. It works in the same way...
I think that the cortisone takes the inflammation down enough so that the irritated tendons get a chance to heal. It works in the same way that taking a month off from hard use would help.

Anyways....mine kind of came back a little but not as bad as it was prior to the injection.

Another thing to consider.....try changing your handlebar position or handlebar bend. This helped me a little.

So....to summarize:

1) rest/ heat/ ice on the elbow
2) CBD/ topical cream on the elbow (i have some great stuff for this that gets prescribed for knee problems.....my doctor said to use it for the elbow)
3) Stretch your tendon/ muscles and the surrounding areas
4) use a tennis elbow strap
5) adjust your handlebars in a manner that makes the pain subside.
6) cortisone shot....last thing to try if all else fails. They want to save this as the final defense.
1. Fix the issue that causes it in the first place and you won’t need the rest of your summary.
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2/4/2020 11:09am
alex69 wrote:
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone. After a few months the problems are coming back...
You think the pain is going away but it isn't, the pain is muffled by the cortisone.
After a few months the problems are coming back.
Every physiotherapist will strongly advise to take no cortisone injections.
A tenniselbow is a tendon problem not a muscle and tendons have poor blood circulation that's the reason why the healing takes a very long time, it's a typical mid forties ailment most of my age suffer from it.
Personally I have good experience with negative/eccentric bicep dumbbell curls, the pain is rising in the beginning but slowly goes away, don't take to much weight, around the 15 lbs is enought.
Raise the weight with the help of your other arm but lowered it slowly without help, if the pain is to much lower the weight, it strengthen your tendons and the muscles gonna be longer so that the stress on the tendon becomes less.
For the golfersarm I had a shockwaves therapy worked really well, you can do it you self with a sander of course without sandpaper, put the sander on your arm where the pain is located and let muscles gently vibrate.
Some Thai massage with no happy ending will also do a good job, but such an massage is good for the hole body especially for us Mxers.



Moto520 wrote:
I think that the cortisone takes the inflammation down enough so that the irritated tendons get a chance to heal. It works in the same way...
I think that the cortisone takes the inflammation down enough so that the irritated tendons get a chance to heal. It works in the same way that taking a month off from hard use would help.

Anyways....mine kind of came back a little but not as bad as it was prior to the injection.

Another thing to consider.....try changing your handlebar position or handlebar bend. This helped me a little.

So....to summarize:

1) rest/ heat/ ice on the elbow
2) CBD/ topical cream on the elbow (i have some great stuff for this that gets prescribed for knee problems.....my doctor said to use it for the elbow)
3) Stretch your tendon/ muscles and the surrounding areas
4) use a tennis elbow strap
5) adjust your handlebars in a manner that makes the pain subside.
6) cortisone shot....last thing to try if all else fails. They want to save this as the final defense.
Tuna wrote:
1. Fix the issue that causes it in the first place and you won’t need the rest of your summary.
Here is some info over the use of cortison injection from therapist who only treats tenniselbows and golfersarms and is very experienced with much positive results.
Everybody can of course have a different opinion and experiences, but it's a forum so we can discuss our experience.
There are more roads that lead to Rome.
The funny thing i had a tenniselbow on both my arms and a golfersarm on my rightarm but i never had problems with racing, but after the a day on the track a beer bottle was to heavy.

It's translated with google translate so i don't no if it's readable.


CORTISON INJECTION
A cortisone (kenacort) injection is often considered to treat a tennis arm. This could have adverse consequences for the capsule, tendons and cartilage.
From studies by Chen et al. 2007 and Tsai et al. 2003, corticosteroid inhibits the build-up of tendon tissue and suppresses collagen (building material) production and cell migrations. By disrupting the tendon cell metabolism, the structural cohesion of tendon tissue is weakened..
GPs who give an injection have learned that three injections is the maximum amount that can be given in a short period of time.
This is not just like that. Cortisons can cause damage and the tendon will weaken anyway. An additional fact is that 3 months after the injection, the problem usually comes back and then often there is a chronic irritation of the capsule and tendons. The result: fluid in the joint. The elbow can feel very stiff and painful at night and in the morning. This is the result of the fluid in the elbow joint and not so much the tennis elbow itself.

To be honest, it must be said that in some patients the injection works wonders when it comes to pain relief. The injection is then often placed in the right place in the initial phase of the tennis arm (ignition phase). Injections that are ultrasound-guided have better results. There are even noises that it is not the injection fluid that gives the effect, but rather the traumatic effect of the needle has a beneficial effect on initiating a healing process in a tendinopathy. In the longer term, this effect is negligible.

If you are considering having the tennis arm injected, remember that there is a good chance that it may be worse in a few months. Corticosteroid injections have a short-term pain-reducing effect and no healing effect.
Finally, we would like to mention that the combination of an injection and at a later time plaster or vice versa is not recommended. If the tennis arm still exists after that, then the chance of a cure is very small
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2/4/2020 12:43pm
1. Massages with deal heat oil
2. Try to rest it as much as possible.
3. See a specialist.
If all else fails....
4. Give up masturbating Unsure
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2/4/2020 5:54pm
Trying to forget, but I had a cortisone injection, told to rest it. See dr the next week, symtoms the same, cortisone did nothing. To do it all over again, get a 10 day supply of prednisone, And just rest the whole arm. Tell my chic, I have to pee, pull my zipper down, turn the page in the book please, put spoon in mouth,etc Had a neat infection on 1 incision also, strong antibiotics for if your in a chemical war.
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