Tear off ban in Australia

RickA wrote:

I've raced Millville for 20 years, average 12 races a year and 600 riders. Sadly now, there is no wild left because of tear offs. The...

I've raced Millville for 20 years, average 12 races a year and 600 riders. Sadly now, there is no wild left because of tear offs. The grass is brown, birds are dead, and the deer have genetic mutations. THIS is what some people would have you believe..

I've walked around tracks, in reality the dozer works the tears offs into the ground just like a landfill and it's not a problem. There isn't plastic blowing around like Mad Max post nuclear war. The world goes on and Mother Earth is just fine with it. Here in the U.S. congress will probably now waste a billion dollars to find out it has no impact. I'm all for a clean environment, but this was never on my radar. I feel that motocross racers are very responsible. When we made a track here at home, we were the ones cleaning up beer cans and plastic bottles that kids throw around.
My guess is that track workers pick up 90% of the tears offs that blow off the track after a weekend race.

ctbale wrote:

I am gunna have to back Amatuzio up, I first raced Millville back in 76' (Was called Zumbro then, have always hated the Millville name) We...

I am gunna have to back Amatuzio up, I first raced Millville back in 76' (Was called Zumbro then, have always hated the Millville name) We used tear offs back then, much thicker then todays tear offs, cows had a rough time getting them down with out a glass of milk.

I bet some of my 40 year old tear offs are still in the track, I think one of mine I negligently left behind after getting roosted on by Tommy Benolkin made Chad go sideways over the chad-a pault, makes me sad.

lostboy819 wrote:

Damn I am glad I dont live in Australia,France, Belgium or New Zealand or any of those country's that must be damn near communist now if...

Damn I am glad I dont live in Australia,France, Belgium or New Zealand or any of those country's that must be damn near communist now if they go so far as suppress the lowly motocross riders and tracks.

haydos25 wrote:

If the biggest problem you can find with a country is its stance on plastic tear offs then I think that country is doing something right.

lostboy819 wrote:

The biggest problem I have with Australia isnt the tear off ban, its all the poisonous snakes and don't even get me started on crocodiles.

RickA wrote:

Great point, and that's where it starts. It always does.. Liberals don't know when to stop. It will move on to the next thing.. Exactly why...

Great point, and that's where it starts. It always does.. Liberals don't know when to stop. It will move on to the next thing.. Exactly why the AMA exists, to stop ridiculous legislation.

Do you remember the lead ban is the U.S. that was repealed? Apparently the government thought kids were chewing on engine cases, which in my eyes means you me kid has a bigger issue than just lead in his diet. So motorcycles couldn't be sold, or outboard motors, or ATVs.. Not even clutch levers

I've spent my whole life watching things get taken away. It comes down to "what next?" Lately it's been 2 lane streets where I live. Replaced with a single lane and dumb ass 12 foot wide BIKE LANE that nobody uses, as we have a foot of snow on the ground 6 months out of the year. I just tear my hair out. Sorry for being persistent on this, it's good in theory but won't end well as they assault on the next thing to change, like maybe using non-gender specific bathrooms. Oh brother I need to stay off here LOL

lostboy819 wrote:

The biggest problem I have with Australia isnt the tear off ban, its all the poisonous snakes and don't even get me started on crocodiles.

haydos25 wrote:

Snakes and crocodiles are placid enough. Had a 6ft black snake in the backyard yesterday enjoying the sun. Drop bears however, those are what you need...

Snakes and crocodiles are placid enough. Had a 6ft black snake in the backyard yesterday enjoying the sun. Drop bears however, those are what you need to look out for.

lostboy819 wrote:

The biggest problem I have with Australia isnt the tear off ban, its all the poisonous snakes and don't even get me started on crocodiles.

haydos25 wrote:

Snakes and crocodiles are placid enough. Had a 6ft black snake in the backyard yesterday enjoying the sun. Drop bears however, those are what you need...

Snakes and crocodiles are placid enough. Had a 6ft black snake in the backyard yesterday enjoying the sun. Drop bears however, those are what you need to look out for.

scott_nz wrote:

those drop bears are cunts for sure, glad those are not around here, (and snakes and crocs can stay there as well) and there is enough...

those drop bears are cunts for sure, glad those are not around here, (and snakes and crocs can stay there as well)

and there is enough people moving down this end of the world already, so glad you are happy at home

Tonynz wrote:

Bloody Magpies are bad enough.

RonSkj wrote:

I think California has figured out, that they would rather tax something than ban it. They'll say it's bad for the environment and start adding a...

I think California has figured out, that they would rather tax something than ban it. They'll say it's bad for the environment and start adding a .10 cent fee to each one.

kaptkaos wrote:

All I am saying is that its not right to pull a tear off and be done with it. It has to be accounted for somehow...

All I am saying is that its not right to pull a tear off and be done with it. It has to be accounted for somehow. The tear offs will blow off the track into the environment where it doesnt belong and having it plowed into the track by a dozer isnt any better. They need to be picked up and disposed of or recycled properly. Yes they can be recycled dirty.

Who pays for it and who does it plays a major part of this and its eveident that it hasnt been getting done.

Most tracks barely get by as it is, so this isnt as easy as saying they have to do it unless you are willing to A. Help or B. Pay a small fee.

lostboy819 wrote:

Damn I am glad I dont live in Australia,France, Belgium or New Zealand or any of those country's that must be damn near communist now if...

Damn I am glad I dont live in Australia,France, Belgium or New Zealand or any of those country's that must be damn near communist now if they go so far as suppress the lowly motocross riders and tracks.

lostboy819 wrote:

Damn I am glad I dont live in Australia,France, Belgium or New Zealand or any of those country's that must be damn near communist now if...

Damn I am glad I dont live in Australia,France, Belgium or New Zealand or any of those country's that must be damn near communist now if they go so far as suppress the lowly motocross riders and tracks.

Jrewing wrote:

They took out guns!!! Now our tear-offs... Next we will be wearing fluoro vests while riding and steel cap boots

kaptkaos wrote:

Ha that was funny but very wrong. I love a big steak as much as the next guy. I really dont care about the cow that...

Ha that was funny but very wrong. I love a big steak as much as the next guy. I really dont care about the cow that got sick, I just think its foolish and careless to toss ANYTHING on the ground and not pick it up or know its going to picked up.

You take it for granted that we have relatively clean streets here in the US, I challenge you to go visit less developed countries/cities and take a walk. The amount of garbage is astounding and its all do to ignorance and carelessness.

Ride124 wrote:

The blatant disregard for our environment shown by some is downright frightening. I did get a chuckle out of the guy who tried to tie this...

The blatant disregard for our environment shown by some is downright frightening. I did get a chuckle out of the guy who tried to tie this issue into his climate change denial though.

tobz wrote:

Say, a local race gets 80-100 racers at a meet. And they compete in practice, and 3 races for the day. On average, a racer might...

Say, a local race gets 80-100 racers at a meet. And they compete in practice, and 3 races for the day. On average, a racer might pull 5 tear off's any time they've competed on the track. Guestimation here but I know I accidentally bloody pull all 18 of the bastards at once. So.

80 racers X 4 rides, tearing 5 tear off's is 1600 tear off's, per race meet. 5 meetings per season, that's 8000!

That's a shitload of non-biodegradeable shit floating around, regardless if your a vegan or not.

Why can't the manufacturers make them biodegradable? That'd be a helluva lot easier (albeit more expensive)

JAFO92 wrote:

You forgot the old tire bonfire we have going down in the back pasture, with 5 or 6 old broken styrofoam ice chests thrown in to...

You forgot the old tire bonfire we have going down in the back pasture, with 5 or 6 old broken styrofoam ice chests thrown in to make the fire burn different colors.

Now if you will excuse me, I changed oil in all the tractors this fall and have about 35 gallons of used diesel engine oil Im gonna pour up and down our gravel road to keep the dust down.

Underdog999 wrote:

I think the ban is not only for the fact that the tear offs litter the tracks and possibly surroundings after a race, but they don't...

I think the ban is not only for the fact that the tear offs litter the tracks and possibly surroundings after a race, but they don't decompose in a landfill. If we just don't make them any longer, we don't have to worry about them hanging around for a zillion years. Lets just get rid of them.