Tear-off Retainers?

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4/11/2021 9:56 PM

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I came across these images earlier today of Nicholas Lapucci. I’ve never seen this kind of system before that retains all the used layers

I can’t imagine having those tear-offs flapping on the side of my helmet, but it’s an interesting concept to keep debris off the track
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4/11/2021 10:01 PM

I think that is a way to overcome the rule in Europe that you can’t use tear offs because of the environmental impact of discarded tear offs. I seem to remember them mention that they were going to have to use rolloffs rather than tear offs. I would use rolloffs too rather than having old tear offs flapping around.

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4/11/2021 10:09 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/11/2021 10:11 PM

Bnagazina wrote:

I think that is a way to overcome the rule in Europe that you can’t use tear offs because of the environmental impact of ...more

I seem to remember something about that as well. I agree with you about using the roll-offs though - maybe the goggle manufacturer doesn’t offer a system? I don’t recognize the brand he’s wearing from the pics

(Edit: looks like ProGrip? They offer roll-offs though)

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4/11/2021 10:24 PM

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I came across these images earlier today of Nicholas Lapucci. I’ve never seen this kind of system before that retains all ...more

Side note... what track and vertical hill is that in first pic O.O!! Looks straight up!

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4/11/2021 10:51 PM

That would drive me nuts flapping against the side of my helmet

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4/11/2021 11:22 PM

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4/11/2021 11:55 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/11/2021 11:58 PM

Bnagazina wrote:

I think that is a way to overcome the rule in Europe that you can’t use tear offs because of the environmental impact of ...more

Kelz87 wrote:

I seem to remember something about that as well. I agree with you about using the roll-offs though - maybe the goggle ...more

I think ProGrip is the company that makes the retaining system too, lots of riders use it at the moment even though they run different goggles. I would go insane having to deal with the sound of those tear offs. But i guess some would take that rather than the limiting view of a roll-off system.

But i think it's great that a company has developed a solution like this. Think about how insane it is that we keep throwing bits of non biodegradable plastic in the environment like we do at the moment. Although tear-offs are banned at more and more places, so there will be a time when either there is a full ban at most tracks/trails or a biodegradable tear-off.

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4/12/2021 12:47 AM

Bnagazina wrote:

I think that is a way to overcome the rule in Europe that you can’t use tear offs because of the environmental impact of ...more

Kelz87 wrote:

I seem to remember something about that as well. I agree with you about using the roll-offs though - maybe the goggle ...more

Motofinne wrote:

I think ProGrip is the company that makes the retaining system too, lots of riders use it at the moment even though they run ...more

There was a company in the uk making bio degradable tearoffs. Think they were called visor leaf of something. If you ran more than 3 it was like looking through the bottom of a beer bottle and the slightest of breeze would blow them straight off your goggles 😂😂😂

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4/12/2021 12:52 AM

Kelz87 wrote:

I seem to remember something about that as well. I agree with you about using the roll-offs though - maybe the goggle ...more

Motofinne wrote:

I think ProGrip is the company that makes the retaining system too, lots of riders use it at the moment even though they run ...more

POWLEY256 wrote:

There was a company in the uk making bio degradable tearoffs. Think they were called visor leaf of something. If you ran more ...more

Haha that doesn't sound optimallaughing

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4/12/2021 1:26 AM

It's the new "Pro Grip green system" the tear offs they used are also bio biodegradable. Photo
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4/12/2021 1:39 AM

Motofinne wrote:

Haha that doesn't sound optimallaughing

My bro didnt believe how bad they were so i gave him a stack and then watched him rip a holeshot whilst leaving a trail of tear offs behind him down the start straight. It was pretty amusing 😂😂

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4/12/2021 2:39 AM

SX racers could start by not pulling 30 tearoffs after rolling off the track after the checkers. Its so stupid and i see so many of them doing it

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4/12/2021 3:14 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/12/2021 3:15 AM

Surprised it hasn’t been more common. Haven’t dirt karts had these sort of systems for years now?

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4/12/2021 3:34 AM

I remember hearing about this a while back too

Meanwhile from Science Daily

"Recent studies estimate that we use an astounding 129 billion face masks globally every month -- that is 3 million a minute. Most of them are disposable face masks made from plastic microfibers."☹

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4/12/2021 3:55 AM

Yeah, no thanks..

When I have 1 get stuck, I feel like I look like a small child swatting a bumble bee trying to get it off my head.

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4/12/2021 7:56 AM

Thank GOD we aren't disposing of tear-offs anymore. Meanwhile:

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4/12/2021 8:03 AM

Not a fan of the retaining system. I would think that as this becomes more prevalent in Europe and I’m sure America will follow at some point, goggle manufacturers will continue with roll off systems with a wider viewpoint.

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4/12/2021 8:13 AM

Yeahh... roll offs and retained tear offs are so much better for the environment. Because instead of discarding plastic on the track I am discarding it in a trash can/landfill or somewhere else on earth. ermm

Bottom line, once plastic is produced, there it is. It is going to exist for x-amount of time, not degrading, no matter where you put it. I get it, better in a landfill than littered randomly all over the the earth. At least it's "consolidated" in that way. But really, most end up getting picked up off the tracks and disposed anyway.

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4/12/2021 8:48 AM

I had an entire stack of tear-offs come loose and flap around for 3 laps before I got so damn annoyed I had to rip the entire mess of plastic off my goggles. No gracias.

Roll offs.

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4/12/2021 9:15 AM

Put designated tear off pull spots around the track. Build some big jumps over a pit of hot lava or sulphuric acid so the riders through them into the pit when they jump. Your welcome, turtles.

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4/12/2021 9:53 AM

I don't think I could ride with a Christmas Tree of discarded tearoffs hanging off my goggles. It's annoying when one gets hung up on my goggle post or stuck to my thumb. Imagine all those!

PS - I'm with StevenMX about that hill in the background. It looks steeper than Glen Helen, for sure!

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4/12/2021 10:40 AM

That's pretty cool but, I'd rather run tear-offs only because I wouldn't be able to stand the noise of it flapping against my helmet.

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4/12/2021 10:57 AM

Falcon wrote:

I don't think I could ride with a Christmas Tree of discarded tearoffs hanging off my goggles. It's annoying when one gets ...more

If not for some strategically placed bales Webb would have rolled down the whole thing:

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4/12/2021 2:39 PM

With how good the roll off's have gotten I just don't see the point.

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4/12/2021 7:04 PM

I can see that getting ripped off very easily racing through the woods.

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4/12/2021 8:01 PM

mxbrian15 wrote:

I can see that getting ripped off very easily racing through the woods.

Copied that. Roll offs are bad enough.
That would likely rip a goggle off.

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4/12/2021 8:14 PM

GrapeApe wrote:

If not for some strategically placed bales Webb would have rolled down the whole thing:

Damn glad the Blue Pig didn't kill him that day or he'd have missed out on 1-2 SX championships! grin

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