Tall riders=lower pegs

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Edited Date/Time 5/4/2017 12:53pm


Just put these Fastway pegs on my 2015 YZ450F. I'm 6'2 and I've had these on most prior bikes for the specific purpose of lowering pegs. The footpeg position is 1/2 inch back and 1/2 inch down from stock when on the "lowboy" setting.

I forgot how much more natural feel they give in the rider position. Your knees are lower so you have more of your knee/leg contacting the bike when standing. Also, I definitely recommend buying the extra sharp studs over the flat studs that come with it.

I was really surprised at how this specific fast way model is the ONLY foot peg i found available that you can lower from the standard position. Why is there no market for adjustable pegs?

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My new KX450F has adjustable peg height. I put them on the low setting and really like it. It should be a more common feature in my opinion.

It would be nice if they came with adjustable sub frames also.
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ive had them on many of my bikes, the only thing i dont like is i have broken many of the "stopper" bolts. Other than that, they are sweet.
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Had those on my YZ250 - also 6'2" - and they made a tremendous difference, especially going from sitting to standing. Much less work over a long ride. Very noticable in reduced leg fatigue.

I now have 2015 kx450f and have the stock pegs in the low position, but they mount down and forward, rather than down and back. Makes the shift lever feel cramped - and they don't make these pegs for that bike unfortunately.

I agree, can't understand why there aren't more adjustable options - there's only 1 adjustable shifter (Hammerhead), 1 adjustable pegs (above).
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Really? 5 mm? I've always been skeptical of dudes who say they can detect a difference of 1/4 inch and it makes a "tremendous difference"?

Just me I guess. I gotta wonder if someone snuck up and changed your peg setting between motos and you didn't know, would you really notice?

It must drive guys like you crazy when your suspension fluid gets hot, or your tire pressure is a psi off.

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5/1/2017 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/1/2017 12:37pm
Hman144 wrote:
Really? 5 mm? I've always been skeptical of dudes who say they can detect a difference of 1/4 inch and it makes a "tremendous difference"? Just...
Really? 5 mm? I've always been skeptical of dudes who say they can detect a difference of 1/4 inch and it makes a "tremendous difference"?

Just me I guess. I gotta wonder if someone snuck up and changed your peg setting between motos and you didn't know, would you really notice?

It must drive guys like you crazy when your suspension fluid gets hot, or your tire pressure is a psi off.

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I always kind of thought the same thing, 5 mm is nothing and I am 6'2" also.

Have owned those pegs and the thing I liked was shimming them so my feet were forced in. I guess I will try another set 5 mm down/back and see if I notice anything.
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You must not be over 6 feet tall.

5 mm down and back - the net effect that is greater than just 5mm. It is noticable and worth the money. Yes, over a 3 hour desert race, it adds up in reduced leg fatigue.

I do change suspension fluid at 40 hours. And check tire pressure before a ride. If the net effect of making sure all things are in order means that the bike performs optimally, why not?

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Well, I AM 6 ft., but I guess I'm more of a "make the best of what ya got" kind of rider. Yes, I like to make sure things are optimally adjusted, but the idea that I could be so impacted by a change 5 mm of peg height, (or 7.07mm of diagonal overall position), just seems beyond my sensitivity.

But I like riding vintage bikes, so what do I know?

A couple of races ago, I whacked a tree so hard it bent my bars about 15 or 20 degrees. Felt really off for the next 10 minutes, but after a little while it was hardly noticeable.
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It's more noticeable when you have a bike that's adjustable and start playing with where things are. I prefer running my bars farther forward as well, some don't.
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Hman144 wrote:
Really? 5 mm? I've always been skeptical of dudes who say they can detect a difference of 1/4 inch and it makes a "tremendous difference"? Just...
Really? 5 mm? I've always been skeptical of dudes who say they can detect a difference of 1/4 inch and it makes a "tremendous difference"?

Just me I guess. I gotta wonder if someone snuck up and changed your peg setting between motos and you didn't know, would you really notice?

It must drive guys like you crazy when your suspension fluid gets hot, or your tire pressure is a psi off.

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Don't knock it until you try it.

Would you agree aftermarket handlebar bends make a difference? They are millimeter differences every rider I know notices. Also Chaser is right on the net effect.

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Only 5mm? They used to be 1/2" down and back, so should be in the 10-12mm range. Tha stock kawi footpeg brackets adjust by 5mm.

Still sounds very insignificant and the first set I tried I was skeptical, but it really was probably the best money I'd spent on that bike. I was shocked how 10-15mm would make it that much easier to go from sitting to standing.

Some bikes definitely need them more than others, my Italian Husky's and recent TM's have felt fine. If they made them for these bikes I probably would have tried them but they don't, and they feel good enough stock to not bother modifying something to fit.
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nytsmaC wrote:
Only 5mm? They used to be 1/2" down and back, so should be in the 10-12mm range. Tha stock kawi footpeg brackets adjust by 5mm. Still...
Only 5mm? They used to be 1/2" down and back, so should be in the 10-12mm range. Tha stock kawi footpeg brackets adjust by 5mm.

Still sounds very insignificant and the first set I tried I was skeptical, but it really was probably the best money I'd spent on that bike. I was shocked how 10-15mm would make it that much easier to go from sitting to standing.

Some bikes definitely need them more than others, my Italian Husky's and recent TM's have felt fine. If they made them for these bikes I probably would have tried them but they don't, and they feel good enough stock to not bother modifying something to fit.
You are likely correct that it is 1/2" and not 5 mm.

I stopped looking at the packaging after my first set.

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Well, I'm 6' and got these and to me it made a YUGE difference. YUGE, I tell you. No need for my Hammerhead tips on either lever.
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Just got these for my '17 250sx, feels so much better and natural. It's one of the first mods I make to any of my bikes.
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Moose off-road offer pegs half inch lower and further back
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I'm 6'6" with a size 13 boot. I'm curious to see how they work on someone my size.
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I a 6ft tall and use System Tech racing drop peg mounts on my YZ's. They lower the pegs 10mm and seem great. Do it to all my bikes, tremendous difference.
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I'm 6'6" with a size 13 boot. I'm curious to see how they work on someone my size.
I'm the same size, you'll wonder why you didnt get them years ago.
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Small adjustments, can make quite a difference. Even 5mm.

I've got trashed knees, that only bend barely to 90 degrees. And, on bad days / after twisting them, much less. So, I have a variety of foot pegs and seats to use. Each make a difference, though, on the extremes, they do make things weird. My highest seat, is Jack Van Velthovenish - I have to climb onto the bike, and it takes a while to get used to the big difference it makes in rider / bike COG. Then, my lowest pegs, that I 'gull winged' out and down, to be 32mm lower than std, and 30mm 'outboard - well, you've Got to watch out for your toes / feet / ankles when you use them. KTM pegs on my Honda, are about 8mm lower than std ones, then my general use pegs - KTM 450RR (Rally) pegs - are another 8mm lower again, and 130mm long. Perfect for me, though, they do clack every bloody rock, and drag through ruts. You make the bike fit you, so you can Ride.
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Fun fact: Grant Langston has one leg longer then the other and he ran one peg higher than the other to compensate
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Anyone know if there are just peg mounts you can buy? At 6'3 and judging by how to most it made a difference, I'd like to give them a go but I hate square pegs. Is there just mounts available or is it a complete set? Thanks
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I'm 6'6" with a size 13 boot. I'm curious to see how they work on someone my size.
They're great. Buy them. Just run the threaded pins, the pointy ones are shit.
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I'm 6'2" and have size 13's... I run bar risers. I think I need to give these a shot as well. Any of you run both?
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I have the system tech racing mounts that are 10mm lower. Made a huge difference at 6'4". One of the best mods I've done.
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FI2T wrote:
I'm 6'2" and have size 13's... I run bar risers. I think I need to give these a shot as well. Any of you run both?
Yep... that with a normal or slightly taller seat... Don't want a massive seat, changes bike too much.

The 2Tall if you're KTM kit is great for easy riding and knees but definitely changes bike setup.
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5/3/2017 9:34pm Edited Date/Time 5/3/2017 9:46pm
I run the Pro Taper footpegs with the 5mm lower cleats, pricey, but higher quality than the Fastways (broke a set).

Definitely worth the money if you are 6'2" and above.

I like running the bars forward, but not higher, as it feels like it doesn't corner as good. I also run a little less sag in the rear, along with softer front fork settings, being so tall with long limbs puts my weight back further than the average size rider. I also run stock height seats, same issue, tall seats raise the center of gravity in the corners.
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Does anyone know what Arminas Jasikonis has on his Factory MXGP Suzuki? I know he is around 6'5".
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5/4/2017 3:14am Edited Date/Time 5/4/2017 3:16am
Aryen wrote:
Does anyone know what Arminas Jasikonis has on his Factory MXGP Suzuki? I know he is around 6'5".
I'd say whatever he damned well wants. Woohoo

But, drop the pegs too low, and you'll have feet hitting every bloody thing.

It's funny how little the really fast big blokes tend to change their bikes for their size nowadays. I'd guess it's because they are so 'dynamic' on the bike - rarely sitting down, and when they do, they want the lower CG advantages, and they are more than fit enough / strong enough to stand back up. Me, I try to time my standing back up with a helpful bump / jump face.

I've wondered whether the blokes behind the '2 Tall' kits are the same ones behind some complete frames that I saw an article about in that great, but now long defunct Italian Motocross E Mag (Motocross International? - though I doubt I remember the name right), years ago. The blokes in the article put forward the thought that bespoke frames, like Bicycles, should be made for big bastards. It was a Shitload more expensive than re-positioned pegs, higher seats, different bars / bar mounts, that's why they don't do them.
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5/4/2017 4:00am Edited Date/Time 5/4/2017 4:01am
Funny you say that Bearuno, Ken DeDycker always gets a hard time about his style but if you watch him he actually moves a lot, he's just got shoulders like a slab of concrete. He's actually really good on a BMX too funnily enough.

The 2Tall guys did start doing frames for the 07-09 gen ktms, then the conversion kits. They're Dutch (imagine that), Jan is his name. Nice bloke to deal with.
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I'm 6'3" and have run Fastway on last 3 bikes I've owned.

My 05 RMZ fastway's bolted right up to my 13 KTM!

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