TLD KTM Team For 2020

Camp332
Profile picture for user Camp332
Posts
8364
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Zoo Jersey US
Camp332
Edited Date/Time 9/19/2019 7:40pm
Glad to see Hartranft land a ride!

45 Brandon Hartranft TLD Oakley TLD Alpinestars
203 Derek Drake TLD Oakley TLD Alpinestars
Brian Moreau TLD Oakley TLD Alpinestars

Info source from the home page
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/20-Silly-Season-Round-1,6705
2
|
ob
Profile picture for user ob
Posts
1624
Joined
3/14/2010
Location
Carlsbad, CA US
ob 9/16/2019 7:28am
9/16/2019 7:28am
toddh wrote:
No Pierce Brown?
Brown was at Pala on Friday with a TLD box van. Is he on the team or not? I don't know.
1
Payup_199
Profile picture for user Payup_199
Posts
435
Joined
8/7/2018
Location
Grafton, WI US
Payup_199 9/16/2019 7:42am
9/16/2019 7:42am
toddh wrote:
No Pierce Brown?
ob wrote:
Brown was at Pala on Friday with a TLD box van. Is he on the team or not? I don't know.
one of the silly season articles I read (swapmoto I believe) had Brown on the team. And that makes sense as he was trying out the Pro scene this past outdoors for Pro this year.
1
Camp332
Profile picture for user Camp332
Posts
8364
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Zoo Jersey US
Camp332 9/16/2019 7:42am
9/16/2019 7:42am Edited Date/Time 9/16/2019 8:23am
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB.

Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one below by therealhammer.

Never heard of the other 2 guys, are they good?

The Shop

See All »
therealhammer
Profile picture for user therealhammer
Posts
210
Joined
6/19/2009
Location
Garden Grove, CA US
therealhammer 9/16/2019 8:04am
9/16/2019 8:04am
Camp332 wrote:
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB. Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one...
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB.

Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one below by therealhammer.

Never heard of the other 2 guys, are they good?
Usual west coast operation ? Did you watch supercross the last 4-5 years ? They have raced both coasts and had the east coast title in their grasp with Jordon in Vegas until about 6 laps into the main

Yes pierce is on the team
3
1
Camp332
Profile picture for user Camp332
Posts
8364
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Zoo Jersey US
Camp332 9/16/2019 8:22am
9/16/2019 8:22am
Camp332 wrote:
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB. Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one...
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB.

Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one below by therealhammer.

Never heard of the other 2 guys, are they good?
therealhammer wrote:
Usual west coast operation ? Did you watch supercross the last 4-5 years ? They have raced both coasts and had the east coast title in...
Usual west coast operation ? Did you watch supercross the last 4-5 years ? They have raced both coasts and had the east coast title in their grasp with Jordon in Vegas until about 6 laps into the main

Yes pierce is on the team
Damn! I screwed up. The fact they only listed 3 riders is what had me thinking one coast only. My bad bros
1
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
5562
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ US
Johnny Ringo 9/16/2019 12:51pm
9/16/2019 12:51pm
Camp332 wrote:
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB. Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one...
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB.

Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one below by therealhammer.

Never heard of the other 2 guys, are they good?
therealhammer wrote:
Usual west coast operation ? Did you watch supercross the last 4-5 years ? They have raced both coasts and had the east coast title in...
Usual west coast operation ? Did you watch supercross the last 4-5 years ? They have raced both coasts and had the east coast title in their grasp with Jordon in Vegas until about 6 laps into the main

Yes pierce is on the team
Easy on the aggression there, man. The dude isn’t trying to scam anyone here.
5
GuyB
Profile picture for user GuyB
Posts
35699
Joined
7/10/2006
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
Fantasy
988th
GuyB 9/16/2019 5:22pm
9/16/2019 5:22pm
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Easy on the aggression there, man. The dude isn’t trying to scam anyone here.
The same could go for you. therealhammer knows what's up.
15
Sully
Profile picture for user Sully
Posts
7074
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
Sully 9/16/2019 6:09pm
9/16/2019 6:09pm
I'd like to see Hartranft on a 450. He looks like a fairly big dude, so the extra power could work in his favor.
1
hamncheeze
Profile picture for user hamncheeze
Posts
2428
Joined
1/13/2018
Location
British Columbia CA
hamncheeze 9/16/2019 6:15pm
9/16/2019 6:15pm
Cantrell had a full 2 years, but man they are pulling the pin on Falk pretty quickly. He raced 1-2 outdoors in 2018 and then 2019 which has had its ups and downs. Just seems crazy to give up on him and take on Moreau who by all accounts is very crash prone.
2
Barrzy256
Profile picture for user Barrzy256
Posts
176
Joined
5/22/2011
Location
GB
Barrzy256 9/16/2019 9:39pm
9/16/2019 9:39pm
Don’t see TLD with any title contenders? I wonder what Tickle is going to be up to
Last Braaap
Profile picture for user Last Braaap
Posts
1552
Joined
4/19/2019
Location
Somewhere over the rainbow CZ
Fantasy
4358th
Last Braaap 9/17/2019 12:47am
9/17/2019 12:47am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2019 12:47am
hubbardmx50 wrote:
Brian who?
Brian your non-believer bottom will be sorrow the day after toMoreau
1
1
kage173
Profile picture for user kage173
Posts
2176
Joined
11/27/2015
Location
TX US
kage173 9/18/2019 4:20pm
9/18/2019 4:20pm
Looks like it'll be another tough year. Whatever it was they planned to do, has not panned out.

I've seen Moreau race Paris SX and he wasn't very impressive. Not sure where that whole deal came from. Dude wasn't even in the same league as Jace Owen, who runs mid to back of the pack in US SX. It's going to be a wake up call on that one.
1
1
Derpin' DJ
Profile picture for user Derpin' DJ
Posts
6307
Joined
5/27/2011
Location
Newcastle AU
Fantasy
2797th
Derpin' DJ 9/18/2019 4:27pm
9/18/2019 4:27pm
kage173 wrote:
Looks like it'll be another tough year. Whatever it was they planned to do, has not panned out. I've seen Moreau race Paris SX and he...
Looks like it'll be another tough year. Whatever it was they planned to do, has not panned out.

I've seen Moreau race Paris SX and he wasn't very impressive. Not sure where that whole deal came from. Dude wasn't even in the same league as Jace Owen, who runs mid to back of the pack in US SX. It's going to be a wake up call on that one.
Isn't he only 15 or 16? Not really a fair comparison
Coenmx
Profile picture for user Coenmx
Posts
133
Joined
7/25/2019
Location
Newport Beach, CA US
Coenmx 9/18/2019 5:48pm
9/18/2019 5:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2019 5:49pm
kage173 wrote:
Looks like it'll be another tough year. Whatever it was they planned to do, has not panned out. I've seen Moreau race Paris SX and he...
Looks like it'll be another tough year. Whatever it was they planned to do, has not panned out.

I've seen Moreau race Paris SX and he wasn't very impressive. Not sure where that whole deal came from. Dude wasn't even in the same league as Jace Owen, who runs mid to back of the pack in US SX. It's going to be a wake up call on that one.
Derpin' DJ wrote:
Isn't he only 15 or 16? Not really a fair comparison
Pretty sure he is 18 or close to it like Carson Mumford’s age ..
Rab
Profile picture for user Rab
Posts
205
Joined
3/16/2015
Location
CA US
Rab 9/18/2019 9:14pm
9/18/2019 9:14pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2019 9:15pm


I saw this ad earlier and found it kinda funny. TLD must have really had the intention of signing McAdoo if they did a photo shoot for their new line of gear considering he was just a “fill in”

Pit Row

See All »
RG1
Profile picture for user RG1
Posts
4663
Joined
7/12/2015
Location
GB
RG1 9/19/2019 4:13am
9/19/2019 4:13am
Whilst Hartranft is solid and Moreau has a lot of potential, it’s hard to believe that those 3 are the best riders available for what is one of the top 250 teams in the series. Huge downgrade on their rosters of the past few years where they came into the season with genuine title aspirations
1
crusty_xx
Profile picture for user crusty_xx
Posts
8540
Joined
6/8/2013
Location
CH
Fantasy
154th
crusty_xx 9/19/2019 4:58am
9/19/2019 4:58am
kage173 wrote:
Looks like it'll be another tough year. Whatever it was they planned to do, has not panned out. I've seen Moreau race Paris SX and he...
Looks like it'll be another tough year. Whatever it was they planned to do, has not panned out.

I've seen Moreau race Paris SX and he wasn't very impressive. Not sure where that whole deal came from. Dude wasn't even in the same league as Jace Owen, who runs mid to back of the pack in US SX. It's going to be a wake up call on that one.
Derpin' DJ wrote:
Isn't he only 15 or 16? Not really a fair comparison
I believe he is 17 now. I know that he was 16 when he did MEC and Bercy last year.
I think he has a lot of potential but it's a gamble. It's maybe worth taking if there were no options - but there are lots of options. So yeah, I don't really understand that choice either. Maybe something we don't know influenced in that decision. Or maybe they just see something in him. Nobody understood Dungeys signing to Suzuki 250 either. Or Vialle in MX2.
UpTiTe
Profile picture for user UpTiTe
Posts
7758
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
CA US
Fantasy
4091st
UpTiTe 9/19/2019 5:00am
9/19/2019 5:00am
Moreua is a Decoster pick.
1
toddh
Profile picture for user toddh
Posts
354
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
IN US
toddh 9/19/2019 5:09am
9/19/2019 5:09am
I think Pierce will be a podium contender in another year. Kid is fast.
crusty_xx
Profile picture for user crusty_xx
Posts
8540
Joined
6/8/2013
Location
CH
Fantasy
154th
crusty_xx 9/19/2019 5:16am
9/19/2019 5:16am
UpTiTe wrote:
Moreua is a Decoster pick.
Possibly yeah. Curious to see how it works out
sesker15
Profile picture for user sesker15
Posts
1059
Joined
4/14/2008
Location
Upper Marlboro, MD US
sesker15 9/19/2019 6:04am
9/19/2019 6:04am
I wished Troy Lee keep Falk, Cantrelle and Alex Frye around a little longer.
OneWordResponseGuy 9/19/2019 6:11am
9/19/2019 6:11am Edited Date/Time 9/19/2019 6:27am
Lets be honest here. That is the weakest lineup this team has had in years. Maybe even in it's entire history.

45 - good and improving
Drake - who knows?
Brown - who knows?
Moreau - why would they take this kid? They already have 2 rookies that are going to have results all over the place. Seems a bit redundant to me.

I get there might not be many options but what about Davalos? Hayes? Peters? Decotis?



4
DonM
Profile picture for user DonM
Posts
6753
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
DonM 9/19/2019 6:23am
9/19/2019 6:23am
Its a rebuilding year....
hamncheeze
Profile picture for user hamncheeze
Posts
2428
Joined
1/13/2018
Location
British Columbia CA
hamncheeze 9/19/2019 9:44am
9/19/2019 9:44am
sesker15 wrote:
I wished Troy Lee keep Falk, Cantrelle and Alex Frye around a little longer.
Didn't Frye tear his knee up really, really badly? Like every ligament?

As I said above, Cantrell has had a full 2.5 years and has shown almost nothing. He's been hurt a lot, but that can only be an excuse for so long. At some point it becomes clear the injuries are a result of trying to ride a speed you are incapable of. Falk seems to have been given very little leash, basically one full season and clippy clippy. I think he's shown some flashes that would give me hope and I would probably bring him back for another season. According to McAdoo, he wanted to stay on with TLD but they were dragging their feet and Mitch pretty much said "piss or get off the PC pot". Can't blame him for taking the PC deal.

Honestly, the whole TLD-KTM thing seems like a bit of a rocky alliance. I think after Marvin graduated 250s and this deal was struck, KTM stepped back and just let the TLD arm run everything. But the past couple of seasons have not met expectations, even Decoster alluded to issues in an interview on DMXS so I'm guessing he and the Austria arm are stepping in and trying to shore things up a bit. I'm not sure why McElrath and Smith were so vocally frustrated with the bike, when a kid like McAdoo could hop on it and get his best outdoor results with hardly any time on it.
peelout
Profile picture for user peelout
Posts
17871
Joined
1/6/2011
Location
Ogden, UT US
peelout 9/19/2019 12:18pm
9/19/2019 12:18pm
Camp332 wrote:
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB. Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one...
@peelout should be able to let us know about PB.

Im assuming this is the usual 250 west coast only operation? Got corrected on this one below by therealhammer.

Never heard of the other 2 guys, are they good?
Pierce is def on the team.

he will be at Monster Cup in the AmAll-Stars. he's been in CA and is no longer training at MTF.
Lastander
Profile picture for user Lastander
Posts
1181
Joined
10/9/2016
Location
SE
Lastander 9/19/2019 1:27pm
9/19/2019 1:27pm
Where did McAdoo end up? I thought he was going to TLD

Post a reply to: TLD KTM Team For 2020