TIGA243 MEC

BobbyM wrote:

Yer a real dick if you bag on Gasser for racing this race and his results. He did much better than the loop out American rider...

Yer a real dick if you bag on Gasser for racing this race and his results. He did much better than the loop out American rider that attempted to race the MXGP's a few years back.

mxbrian15 wrote:

You mean RV, who actually won a MXGP race? I didn't see Tiga win on Saturday. I guess 5th overall is better than a win?

BobbyM wrote:

Gasser didn't loop out in his 3rd race either.

Press516 wrote:

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those...

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those times.

You keep pointing at a 3rd race crash, while ignoring a 1st race rhythm failure. As if 1 is somehow way worse than the other. TG was in over his head in 2017... And damn lucky he wasn't hurt. RV had already thrown in the towel of retirement and still won a race.

Park Boys wrote:

He should be given credit for a being a man with no EGO. He knew he was not gonna win or even come close to it...

He should be given credit for a being a man with no EGO. He knew he was not gonna win or even come close to it and thats huge for someone on his level. This does not happen in racing anymore. Huge props to him for that and this is not a dig in any way shape or form. Shows the character someone like Tim possess. I can’t think of another top level GP rider that would come over and do what he did. This was nearly completely out of is element. It should be said that these guys do race man made tracks now but none of them have rhythm sections like this. There are guys in this sport whose attitudes make them easy or easier to dislike. Then there is Tim, if you dislike him. You’re the problem.

Press516 wrote:

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those...

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those times.

You keep pointing at a 3rd race crash, while ignoring a 1st race rhythm failure. As if 1 is somehow way worse than the other. TG was in over his head in 2017... And damn lucky he wasn't hurt. RV had already thrown in the towel of retirement and still won a race.

tttrailhunter wrote:

rv won on a track that everyone said was sx styled. and geuss what?, it was. obviously you forgot that part. go have a look, if...

rv won on a track that everyone said was sx styled.
and geuss what?, it was.
obviously you forgot that part.

go have a look, if its up somewhere..

teamddr wrote:

Ok I get it With the one weeks training he did and he got 5th The only guys that beat him have been training for months...

Ok I get it
With the one weeks training he did and he got 5th
The only guys that beat him have been training for months
If he came over trained as much as the other guys he’s top 15
Gotcha

teamddr wrote:

Ok I get it With the one weeks training he did and he got 5th The only guys that beat him have been training for months...

Ok I get it
With the one weeks training he did and he got 5th
The only guys that beat him have been training for months
If he came over trained as much as the other guys he’s top 15
Gotcha

hamncheeze wrote:

No consideration for the other guys listed who were not at MEC? And if you read my post properly, you would see that I don't have...

No consideration for the other guys listed who were not at MEC? And if you read my post properly, you would see that I don't have him in 15th all season. There's a massive difference from racing MEC to a real SX track. Whoops, rhythms are more technical and the starts are often much less forgiving. Tim would have to get proficient at racing on these tracks. Not just proficient at riding them. You understand that every guy I mentioned in my post has YEARS of Supercross craft right? I'm sorry but there's no way Tim can just come in and train for a few months and run up front consistently.

But it's all a moot point. He's unlikely to risk his MXGP career riding a few early season SX races. I'm sure Honda would have something to say if he wanted to line up at A1. And you and I will agree to disagree and the only common ground we have is that both Canada and Ireland are small time in the grand scheme of dirt bike racing, and neither of us should take this shit so seriously!

Press516 wrote:

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those...

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those times.

You keep pointing at a 3rd race crash, while ignoring a 1st race rhythm failure. As if 1 is somehow way worse than the other. TG was in over his head in 2017... And damn lucky he wasn't hurt. RV had already thrown in the towel of retirement and still won a race.

hamncheeze wrote:

I love a good Europe vs USA fight as a Canadian. I think Tim had a great night in Vegas. He was better than I expected...

I love a good Europe vs USA fight as a Canadian.

I think Tim had a great night in Vegas. He was better than I expected. Having said that, this was a weak field, and the track was relatively tame compared to a full on SX track. No whoops, no crazy rhythms down the 3rd baseline like we get at A2, etc, etc. So we have to put his performance in context. Sure he beat Barcia, but from what I've seen on IG neither Barcia or Plessinger have been motoing down on the SX track. Is that an excuse? Sure, but also a fact. Neither guy was race sharp at all.

Having said that, I do believe if Tim did a full season in the US riding 450 SX, he would improve to a very good level as long as he could stay healthy. I would say early in the series when everyone is healthy he's around 12th place, but certainly by the last few rounds I would see him racing for top-5s and possibly a podium. If you think 12th is an insulting number here are the guys I put ahead of him: Webb, Tomac, Musquin, Roczen, Anderson, Osborne, Baggett, Brayton, Barcia, Savatgy, Cianciarulo, Wilson, Mookie. Note that is actually 13 guys but on any given night shit happens to at least a couple of guys. Still, I think in the early part of the season when it's pretty healthy he's going to be right around Friese level which is really 10-15. I don't think this is an insult to him. Look at the guys I just listed. 8 of those 13 have won 450 SX races. All but JB10 have won 250 SX races and 8 of 13 have a 250 SX title. That is a very elite group.

Since people like to compare Tim to Barcia after Saturday, if Bam Bam went to MXGP for a full season he'd be 8-12 most motos. He'd struggle with the track variety and how fast the MXGP guys can ride through a turn. In fact he might have a harder time becoming a top-5 guy in MXGP than Gajser a top-5 guy in SX.

teamddr wrote:

Ok I get it With the one weeks training he did and he got 5th The only guys that beat him have been training for months...

Ok I get it
With the one weeks training he did and he got 5th
The only guys that beat him have been training for months
If he came over trained as much as the other guys he’s top 15
Gotcha

BroFoSho wrote:

Last I checked, Gajser got beat by 1.) A kid who has never raced a 450 2.) Basketcase Tomac who crashed during the race 3.) Mookie...

Last I checked, Gajser got beat by 1.) A kid who has never raced a 450 2.) Basketcase Tomac who crashed during the race 3.) Mookie who hasn't line up for a race in 10 months, and 4.) Vince Fuckin' Freise

BroFoSho wrote:

Last I checked, Gajser got beat by 1.) A kid who has never raced a 450 2.) Basketcase Tomac who crashed during the race 3.) Mookie...

Last I checked, Gajser got beat by 1.) A kid who has never raced a 450 2.) Basketcase Tomac who crashed during the race 3.) Mookie who hasn't line up for a race in 10 months, and 4.) Vince Fuckin' Freise

Press516 wrote:

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those...

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those times.

You keep pointing at a 3rd race crash, while ignoring a 1st race rhythm failure. As if 1 is somehow way worse than the other. TG was in over his head in 2017... And damn lucky he wasn't hurt. RV had already thrown in the towel of retirement and still won a race.

Bearuno wrote:

Care to put up Tomacs crash at the very same event, that had him quit the rest of the event, too? Shit happens to [i]all [/i]...

Care to put up Tomacs crash at the very same event, that had him quit the rest of the event, too?

Shit happens to all riders, but those with selective memories, do just that : select.

This time, Tim did well, and, stayed safe and upright, to be able to prepare for the series he's contracted to, and, paid a hell of a lot to do. He and his hard headed Dad negotiated quite the contract for himself, a few years ago : big money, and, quite a deal of freedom. I suspect that Honda, added a fair bit more to keep him at their main goal - the MXGP class, after his 2016 450 World Championship. Not sure if he's already re - upped his Honda contract or it runs it's course at the end of next season. I recall it was for 5 years, but can't recall if it was either signed in 2015 before his 250 WC, or after it, starting from 2016?

Press516 wrote:

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those...

I'm a huge TG243 fan, but sometimes when someone types before they think, you have to call them out on it... This is one of those times.

You keep pointing at a 3rd race crash, while ignoring a 1st race rhythm failure. As if 1 is somehow way worse than the other. TG was in over his head in 2017... And damn lucky he wasn't hurt. RV had already thrown in the towel of retirement and still won a race.

Bearuno wrote:

Care to put up Tomacs crash at the very same event, that had him quit the rest of the event, too? Shit happens to [i]all [/i]...

Care to put up Tomacs crash at the very same event, that had him quit the rest of the event, too?

Shit happens to all riders, but those with selective memories, do just that : select.

This time, Tim did well, and, stayed safe and upright, to be able to prepare for the series he's contracted to, and, paid a hell of a lot to do. He and his hard headed Dad negotiated quite the contract for himself, a few years ago : big money, and, quite a deal of freedom. I suspect that Honda, added a fair bit more to keep him at their main goal - the MXGP class, after his 2016 450 World Championship. Not sure if he's already re - upped his Honda contract or it runs it's course at the end of next season. I recall it was for 5 years, but can't recall if it was either signed in 2015 before his 250 WC, or after it, starting from 2016?

Press516 wrote:

Well, the context of my post and what I was replying to, obviously went WAY over your head. No surprise... Fanatics are unable to see clearly...

Well, the context of my post and what I was replying to, obviously went WAY over your head.

No surprise... Fanatics are unable to see clearly when someone points out something about their hero.

Bearuno wrote:

Care to put up Tomacs crash at the very same event, that had him quit the rest of the event, too? Shit happens to [i]all [/i]...

Care to put up Tomacs crash at the very same event, that had him quit the rest of the event, too?

Shit happens to all riders, but those with selective memories, do just that : select.

This time, Tim did well, and, stayed safe and upright, to be able to prepare for the series he's contracted to, and, paid a hell of a lot to do. He and his hard headed Dad negotiated quite the contract for himself, a few years ago : big money, and, quite a deal of freedom. I suspect that Honda, added a fair bit more to keep him at their main goal - the MXGP class, after his 2016 450 World Championship. Not sure if he's already re - upped his Honda contract or it runs it's course at the end of next season. I recall it was for 5 years, but can't recall if it was either signed in 2015 before his 250 WC, or after it, starting from 2016?

Press516 wrote:

Well, the context of my post and what I was replying to, obviously went WAY over your head. No surprise... Fanatics are unable to see clearly...

Well, the context of my post and what I was replying to, obviously went WAY over your head.

No surprise... Fanatics are unable to see clearly when someone points out something about their hero.

Bearuno wrote:

Gajser a 'Hero' to me? No, not in any way. [i]No[/i] sportspeople are heroes to me. That level of adulation, is for pre-teens, or those that...

Gajser a 'Hero' to me?

No, not in any way.

No sportspeople are heroes to me. That level of adulation, is for pre-teens, or those that hold on to that level of immaturity.