Suzuki making 2strokes?

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Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010 models also (the 2008 model later disappeared). Is Suzuki thinking about developing new 2strokes or will they do as Yamaha keep producing the same bike every year?

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mxrose3 11/26/2010 9:26am
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as of last year, Suzuki was still selling the two strokes in Europe and other countries.
They won't do it in the USA because they are afraid of hurting the 4 stroke sales.... what little they have.
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I'd never spend FIFTY-FIVE thousand Kroners on any motocross bike.

I'd spend my Kroners more methodically, yet with random abandon.
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Rasmus99 wrote:
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010...
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010 models also (the 2008 model later disappeared). Is Suzuki thinking about developing new 2strokes or will they do as Yamaha keep producing the same bike every year?

Suzuki 250 2010
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm)

I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm dissappointed at their decision not to sell them here, and their excuses are BS. (I'm a Suzuki dealer, I ask often 'why' we can't get them)

If you really want one buy one a few years old, they haven't changed a thing.
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mxjef 11/26/2010 9:43am
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I wish they would bring them back to the U.S.
My '08 RM250 isn't going to last forever

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burn1986 11/26/2010 9:55am
11/26/2010 9:55am Edited Date/Time 11/26/2010 10:15am
RMs are defintely sweet 2-strokes, especially if they made a 150.
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Suns_PSD 11/26/2010 10:05am
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They need to slap that motor ii the RMZ250F chassis.

They would just sell piles of them.
TeamPropainTurbo38t 11/26/2010 10:20am
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Rasmus99 wrote:
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010...
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010 models also (the 2008 model later disappeared). Is Suzuki thinking about developing new 2strokes or will they do as Yamaha keep producing the same bike every year?

Suzuki 250 2010
Ryno784 wrote:
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm) I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm...
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm)

I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm dissappointed at their decision not to sell them here, and their excuses are BS. (I'm a Suzuki dealer, I ask often 'why' we can't get them)

If you really want one buy one a few years old, they haven't changed a thing.
As a business trying to make money you don not supply where there is no demand......simple.....
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lostboy819 11/26/2010 10:33am
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Rupert X wrote:


I'd never spend FIFTY-FIVE thousand Kroners on any motocross bike.

I'd spend my Kroners more methodically, yet with random abandon.
And you say Geroge Lopez isnt funnyBlush
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mxrose3 11/26/2010 10:42am
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Rasmus99 wrote:
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010...
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010 models also (the 2008 model later disappeared). Is Suzuki thinking about developing new 2strokes or will they do as Yamaha keep producing the same bike every year?

Suzuki 250 2010
Ryno784 wrote:
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm) I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm...
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm)

I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm dissappointed at their decision not to sell them here, and their excuses are BS. (I'm a Suzuki dealer, I ask often 'why' we can't get them)

If you really want one buy one a few years old, they haven't changed a thing.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
As a business trying to make money you don not supply where there is no demand......simple.....
Not sure if its true, but I keep hearing that Yamaha sells out of there YZ250 two strokes every year.
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mxrose3 wrote:
Not sure if its true, but I keep hearing that Yamaha sells out of there YZ250 two strokes every year.
You could be correct... however they probably only give one to each dealership to sell
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Ryno784 wrote:
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm) I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm...
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm)

I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm dissappointed at their decision not to sell them here, and their excuses are BS. (I'm a Suzuki dealer, I ask often 'why' we can't get them)

If you really want one buy one a few years old, they haven't changed a thing.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
As a business trying to make money you don not supply where there is no demand......simple.....
mxrose3 wrote:
Not sure if its true, but I keep hearing that Yamaha sells out of there YZ250 two strokes every year.
What, all ten of them?
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scott_nz 11/26/2010 11:10am
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Suzuki still sells 2 strokes down this end of the world, they are brand new 08 models, have not changed even the model code but still keep making them new,

i just got my new RM125 this week, get to run it in on sunday,
scotttydog 11/26/2010 11:35am
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Suzuki still sells 2 strokes down this end of the world, they are brand new 08 models, have not changed even the model code but still...
Suzuki still sells 2 strokes down this end of the world, they are brand new 08 models, have not changed even the model code but still keep making them new,

i just got my new RM125 this week, get to run it in on sunday,
so are they left over 08s from 08? or fresh off the line?
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Rasmus99 wrote:
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010...
Im going to buy one when the season starts. I was looking in to a new 2008 model but then i saw that they had 2010 models also (the 2008 model later disappeared). Is Suzuki thinking about developing new 2strokes or will they do as Yamaha keep producing the same bike every year?

Suzuki 250 2010
Ryno784 wrote:
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm) I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm...
Correct, the Suzuki 2 strokes are for Canadians and others, us Americans don't deserve to have them shipped here....(sarcasm)

I'm a loyal Suzuki fan but I'm dissappointed at their decision not to sell them here, and their excuses are BS. (I'm a Suzuki dealer, I ask often 'why' we can't get them)

If you really want one buy one a few years old, they haven't changed a thing.
TeamPropainTurbo38t wrote:
As a business trying to make money you don not supply where there is no demand......simple.....
Your theory holds no water, look how many 450's are left out there....All the mfgs clearly over-stocked their 4 strokes...Not so simple afterall huh.

The 2 strokes will sell for more, and sooner, than a 4 stroke. I'm on the front lines and see it everyday.
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bultokid 11/26/2010 12:17pm
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Yeah, them turd 4t have done just wonders for the sport.
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Rasmus99 11/26/2010 12:31pm
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scott_nz wrote:
Suzuki still sells 2 strokes down this end of the world, they are brand new 08 models, have not changed even the model code but still...
Suzuki still sells 2 strokes down this end of the world, they are brand new 08 models, have not changed even the model code but still keep making them new,

i just got my new RM125 this week, get to run it in on sunday,
scotttydog wrote:
so are they left over 08s from 08? or fresh off the line?
Thats the thing. The 08 model was cheaper then the 10 model when they had them both!
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mxb2 11/26/2010 6:25pm
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BNG?, how much price difference between the 08 and 10?
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How many of you are willing to spend 7 to 7.5k for a new 2-stroke? Just because the technology is old doesn't mean it would be any cheaper. I get the impression everyone chanting for new 2-stroke think they're going to be cheap to buy or something. If you're looking to stay in budget keep buying used, plenty of them out there.

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CamP 11/26/2010 7:01pm
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Because the two stroke has fewer and more simple parts, it costs about $1,000 less to build a 250T versus a 450F. That's why a new YZ retails $1000 less than a YZ450.

The reason bikes are so expensive is because the Dollar is so weak against the Yen.
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RaceFace 11/26/2010 7:36pm
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Shawn142 wrote:
How many of you are willing to spend 7 to 7.5k for a new 2-stroke? Just because the technology is old doesn't mean it would be...
How many of you are willing to spend 7 to 7.5k for a new 2-stroke? Just because the technology is old doesn't mean it would be any cheaper. I get the impression everyone chanting for new 2-stroke think they're going to be cheap to buy or something. If you're looking to stay in budget keep buying used, plenty of them out there.
Problem with buying them 2 strokes used is that supply will dry up. Where are the new ones coming from to replenish the good used ones? In 5 years what kind of 2 strokes will be available used that aren't clapped out roaches? Those that don't want the 2 stroke to die are not supporting the cause by buying new. Thus it unfortunately will die.
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Lightning78 11/26/2010 9:55pm
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Suns_PSD wrote:
They need to slap that motor ii the RMZ250F chassis.

They would just sell piles of them.
I'd rather the didn't the last generation of steel framed rm 2 strokes couldn't get any better and would prefer they didn't go Honda and ruin such an amazing package yet again the rmz's handle better than anything available so as long as Suzuki keeps making the rm 2 strokes ill keep buying em .....finally found a percent suspension setting on my 06 rm250 and of all the bikes I've owned or ridden 2 stroke or 4 stroke any year make or model that 06 rm250 is without a doubt the very best bike I have ever ridden this coming from someone who spent 20 years on hondas with deviations here and there for me there is no better bike available and today finally having the bike setup echo'd that loud and clear literally the best day I've had riding since before my horrendous crash that bike is pure magic on all fronts didn't even need a revalved just springs to match my weight I am more than pleased with that bike
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Rasmus99 11/27/2010 3:14am
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Prices(USD):
2010 250 2stroke is 7 624
2008 250 2stroke was 7 352

2010 RMZ 450 is 8 443
2011 RMZ 450 is 9 398

2010 RMZ 250 is 8 579
2011 RMZ 250 is 9 125

As you can see they are selling the 2010 450 very cheap. its even cheaper then the 2010 RMZ 250

And when you sell your used 450 you wont get near as much as the 250 2stroke.
To find a used 2stroke in decent condition is very hard in Sweden. If you find one you have to go and pick it up the same day becouse the next it will be sold...

So i still thinks buying a new 2stroke is cheaper.
And then you have to maintain it, and thats also cheaper with a twostroke

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