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7/6/2020 9:55 AM

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

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Braaapin' aint easy.

7/6/2020 9:59 AM

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive ...more

Suzuki shouldn’t give up, they should step up. Big difference. And I know of some absolutely beat cheerleaders lol.

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7/6/2020 10:03 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/6/2020 10:04 AM

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive ...more

deadlo wrote:

Suzuki shouldn’t give up, they should step up. Big difference. And I know of some absolutely beat cheerleaders lol.

I wouldn't mind if they chose "stepping down" as being a better niche for them. Focus on making a competitive platform at the best value possible, and putting race program money toward contingency and smaller teams.

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7/6/2020 10:41 AM

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive ...more

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
We’re not last place ! Brock T almost made the Podium I liked his Hole shot!
Anyways My 2020 250 rmz Is my favorite bike so far have owned husky Ktm yamaha... have over 20 hours still running like a vintage sewing machine 🤠

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7/6/2020 10:54 AM

Great...
Now anyone with an RM250 is going to think it's worth 67 thousand dollars 🤣

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7/6/2020 11:47 AM

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive ...more

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
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grin

I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock version fared in the shootouts. (His RM-Z would absolutely lay waste to a stock SX-F450, by the way.)

Be careful with that RM-Z250, though. I heard they are so bad that they'll give you cancer!
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Braaapin' aint easy.

7/6/2020 11:51 AM

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive ...more

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
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Falcon wrote: grin

I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock ...more

And Mesothelioma. Pretty sure I saw a commercial during Maury for a class action lawsuit.

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7/6/2020 12:36 PM

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
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Falcon wrote: grin

I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock ...more
jamiechapman418 wrote:

And Mesothelioma. Pretty sure I saw a commercial during Maury for a class action lawsuit.

Maybe that’s why my hair is falling out😂

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7/6/2020 12:48 PM

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tek14 wrote:

They are lucky to have their 2008 models still out ready for next season to please President.

Are you honestly that dumb that you think the 2020 is the same as the '08 or is this a sad attempt at humor?

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7/6/2020 1:02 PM

So, I guess I don't quite understand why everyone is so up in arms? If you like Suzuki, buy one. If you don't, then buy something else. I will ride Suzuki because they are my favorite brand. They have never done anything for me, and they probably never will. I bleed yellow. Electric start or not. I also really like the fact that my bike stands out wherever I go. I can do up a bike and almost guarantee no one else will have one like it. Suzuki has never held me back from a national championship.........taking care of that with skill alone.

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7/6/2020 1:25 PM

It wasn't that long ago that a pro without a ride would jump on a suzuki for supercross because it was the best platform (not bike) but it seems the other bikes have caught up and mostly passed the zook unfortunately.

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7/6/2020 1:25 PM

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive ...more

deadlo wrote:

Suzuki shouldn’t give up, they should step up. Big difference. And I know of some absolutely beat cheerleaders lol.

A cheerleader is a cheerleader bro. wink

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7/6/2020 1:27 PM

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive ...more

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
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Falcon wrote: grin

I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock ...more

You had to stoop so low that you had to joke about cancer. Shame. Not cool. ermm

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7/6/2020 1:31 PM

I hope Suzuki keeps making bikes, and steps it up. All I want is a bike with the motor and stability of a YZ250F that corners like a RMZ / CRF 250.

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7/6/2020 1:39 PM

Not so long time algo,Ronnie Stewart,Nick Schmit,Cedrick Soubreiras,and Many others,we're making mains on the dynosaur,now all of them on Husky,didnt make any of them,explain that

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7/6/2020 1:50 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/6/2020 2:01 PM

SEMAC wrote:

Not so long time algo,Ronnie Stewart,Nick Schmit,Cedrick Soubreiras,and Many others,we're making mains on the dynosaur,now all ...more

Soubeyras raced 250 East this year this year and made every main he raced before the series shut down. Stewart has made 5 mains on the Husky.

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7/6/2020 1:50 PM

SEMAC wrote:

Not so long time algo,Ronnie Stewart,Nick Schmit,Cedrick Soubreiras,and Many others,we're making mains on the dynosaur,now all ...more

What’s your point? That’s cool man

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7/6/2020 2:55 PM

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about it.it gets old

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7/6/2020 3:07 PM

Remember this as you are too young to appreciate it right now (no offense meant to be taken on being a millenial). When you hit your 50s and 60s coupled with crashing your brains out over a few decades, which results in breaking dozens of bones and tearing ligaments, walking with a limp is considered a "good day", get back to us about being a sissy. Arthritis sets in, surgeons want to do hip replacements, knee replacements, etc., Its nice to have that E start. Its not that when you get older you can't kick start a bike, or even complain about it. It just makes the whole experience of continuing to ride much more enjoyable as you age. I remember making fun of my dads friends when I was in my late teens and early twenties. Now I'm in my late 40s and can barely friggin walk, let alone jog or run. I still lift weights regularly and consistently - and people often think I'm still in my 30s as I look young (until they see me walk). I'll still hop on our son's RM125 from time to time, and love it. The body is wearing down after decades of physical abuse (played rugby in college, rode bulls in high school along with playing multiple sports growing up). I've lifted weights since I was in Jr high and have stayed in very good shape. The body just starts wearing down when you hit your 40s. E start just makes the whole experience better as you get older. It also makes riding longer a possibility, as I plan to ride easily into my 70s.

You don't get it now. I was there when I was your age. But remember this when you get older.

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7/6/2020 3:59 PM

I'm 64 and can still kick start a bike. When I bought a 2016 KX450F with electric start I didn't think much about it. I have a 2019 KX450 now. I really like the electric starter. But I would still buy a new KX250 with a kick starter.
I had a 2002 RM250, a 2007 RMZ450, a 2010 RMZ450 and a 2012 RMZ450. I switched to the Kawasakis because Suzuki just did update the bikes enough or loose weight like KTM and Kawasaki.
Suzuki is still fun to ride and a good reliable bike. They are lagging behind the times.

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7/6/2020 4:19 PM

deadlo wrote:

We live in a country that everyone has to believe what they own is the best.

Your bike doesn’t win a shootout, it’s because ...more

TbonesPop wrote:

Let's clarify your statement.

The bikes were bought because of the VALUE (as in you get a LOT of bike, very reliable on at ...more

deadlo wrote:

What? My point can still be proven here, again, if all manufacturers were the same price as i said, you would not get the ...more

Uh, I ride a 2018 YZ450 and love it. Our son has an RM125 and I've own multiple other Suzukis. I've also owned a KX250, CRF450, YZ250F, RMZ450, and a YZ250. I've ridden a 2020 YZ450, and I've ridden a 2019 KX450, and like I said I have a 2018 YZ450. I still think the RMZ is a great bike. Honestly, if it had e start, I'd have another RMZ450 in the stable to go with our other bikes.

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7/6/2020 4:38 PM

I AM also 64,and i still can kickstart a bike,altough a button would be nice

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7/6/2020 5:42 PM

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ...more

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my exact point and I will use my own bike in this.... my fc450 is not the best bike at all. It didn’t win the shootout, it has flaws. People hate the air forks. Do you see me or any other husky owners whining and trying to prove our bike is actually the best bike? No. Do you see me making posts about how everyone is wrong and the air fork is actually great? Or listing stats of pros who’ve done good on the husky? See where I’m going with this.... shut up about people with e start being sissies, about how much u just love that heavy pig, and just ride it dude.

You guys have these threads like it’s a Suzuki support group lmfao. “Ok guys, everyone say 3 nice things about the rmz”

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7/6/2020 5:58 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/6/2020 6:11 PM

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ...more

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my ...more

Are you 6? I’m going with total dipshit. No Suzuki owners are starting threads bragging about how its the best bike. It’s snowflakes like you that start the threads bagging on the brand. Then when Suzuki owners post up defending the bike you and the other trolls lose your minds because people actually like the bike. Its lame and it shows that you and the rest of the trolls have the mental capacity of a turnip.

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7/6/2020 6:10 PM

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ...more

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my ...more

malachi177 wrote:

Are you 6? I’m going with total dipshit. No Suzuki owners are starting threads bragging about how its the best bike. It’s ...more

1. It’s a good looking bike
2. It turns decent (still think overrated, but It is good at that)
3. It’s cheap

There dude, there’s your three nice things to help you sleep tonight. You don’t have to be so harsh and call me a dipshit man sad

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7/6/2020 7:01 PM

jamiechapman418 wrote:

Some true, some false. If I had a choice of every bike at the same price I would not buy a Suzuki that is true. HOWEVER, many ...more

BobPA wrote:

How many of "you people" prefer to hand crank their cars?

No one prefers a kick starter, stop being ridiculous.

MotofactioN wrote:

That’s not even a valid point to make. We just started getting E start on dirtbikes.

Don’t act like you weren’t kickstarting ...more

Well, I bought my first 350 in 2011....So I am going on 10 years of hitting the magic button, anecdotal info of course. My 300 has a back up kicker, which is a great idea on a bike you ride in the woods...far from a tow vehicle.

I have had two starter failures since 2011, one was do to a crash, the second was caused by me overloading the stock charging system and burning up a stator.

Kick starting is caveman haha...e-start is pretty damn reliable, and clearly they have it lightweight.

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

7/6/2020 7:11 PM

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my ...more

malachi177 wrote:

Are you 6? I’m going with total dipshit. No Suzuki owners are starting threads bragging about how its the best bike. It’s ...more

deadlo wrote:

1. It’s a good looking bike
2. It turns decent (still think overrated, but It is good at that)
3. It’s cheap

There dude, ...more

They’re stone reliable.

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7/6/2020 8:26 PM

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ...more

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my ...more

All suzuki owners know all the flaws and where the rmz falls short but we still love them regardless, much like how your parents probably feel about you.

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7/7/2020 3:42 AM

GODZILLA wrote:

They're cheap and down on performance: a perfect match for a Zook.
grin

Really a perfect match for those guys that a 350 is better than a 450.

But I would say most guys can’t handle the power of a 450 anyway.

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7/7/2020 3:59 AM

If you looked into their contIngency program you’d see they’re more dedicated to racing than any other brand

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