Suzuki has let go of the R&D department

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still...

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still...

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

deadlo wrote:

Suzuki shouldn’t give up, they should step up. Big difference. And I know of some absolutely beat cheerleaders lol.

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still...

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still...

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ We’re not...

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
We’re not last place ! Brock T almost made the Podium I liked his Hole shot!
Anyways My 2020 250 rmz Is my favorite bike so far have owned husky Ktm yamaha... have over 20 hours still running like a vintage sewing machine 🤠

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still...

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ We’re not...

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
We’re not last place ! Brock T almost made the Podium I liked his Hole shot!
Anyways My 2020 250 rmz Is my favorite bike so far have owned husky Ktm yamaha... have over 20 hours still running like a vintage sewing machine 🤠

Falcon wrote:

:lol: I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock version fared in...

I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock version fared in the shootouts. (His RM-Z would absolutely lay waste to a stock SX-F450, by the way.)

Be careful with that RM-Z250, though. I heard they are so bad that they'll give you cancer!

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ We’re not...

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
We’re not last place ! Brock T almost made the Podium I liked his Hole shot!
Anyways My 2020 250 rmz Is my favorite bike so far have owned husky Ktm yamaha... have over 20 hours still running like a vintage sewing machine 🤠

Falcon wrote:

:lol: I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock version fared in...

I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock version fared in the shootouts. (His RM-Z would absolutely lay waste to a stock SX-F450, by the way.)

Be careful with that RM-Z250, though. I heard they are so bad that they'll give you cancer!

jamiechapman418 wrote:

And Mesothelioma. Pretty sure I saw a commercial during Maury for a class action lawsuit.

Wangben wrote:

:laugh: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/07/03/435898/s1200_unknown.jpg[/img]

tek14 wrote:

They are lucky to have their 2008 models still out ready for next season to please President.

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still...

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

deadlo wrote:

Suzuki shouldn’t give up, they should step up. Big difference. And I know of some absolutely beat cheerleaders lol.

Falcon wrote:

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still...

Being the manufacturer who manufactures the "worst" 450cc MX bike is like being the poorest billionaire, the least-attractive cheerleader, or the slowest nitromethane funny car. Still pretty F'ing rad.

Some of you guys act like Suzuki should just give up, since the magazines picked the yellow bike last.

biondo wrote:

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ We’re not...

Good Point! Brock T and Freddie and JGR Team did quite well at SLC !! Considering the odds they were up against! Suzuki RMZ
We’re not last place ! Brock T almost made the Podium I liked his Hole shot!
Anyways My 2020 250 rmz Is my favorite bike so far have owned husky Ktm yamaha... have over 20 hours still running like a vintage sewing machine 🤠

Falcon wrote:

:lol: I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock version fared in...

I don't think Broc "broken hand" Tickle could have done any better on Webb's KTM, no matter how much better the stock version fared in the shootouts. (His RM-Z would absolutely lay waste to a stock SX-F450, by the way.)

Be careful with that RM-Z250, though. I heard they are so bad that they'll give you cancer!

SEMAC wrote:

Not so long time algo,Ronnie Stewart,Nick Schmit,Cedrick Soubreiras,and Many others,we're making mains on the dynosaur,now all of them on Husky,didnt make any of them,explain that

SEMAC wrote:

Not so long time algo,Ronnie Stewart,Nick Schmit,Cedrick Soubreiras,and Many others,we're making mains on the dynosaur,now all of them on Husky,didnt make any of them,explain that

deadlo wrote:

We live in a country that everyone has to believe what they own is the best. Your bike doesn’t win a shootout, it’s because shootouts suck...

We live in a country that everyone has to believe what they own is the best.

Your bike doesn’t win a shootout, it’s because shootouts suck. You then go on making excuses for what you own. “Actually, I prefer a kick starter,” “actually, I prefer that it weigh 600 lbs heavier,” “actually, I prefer the shock since I change everything about that anyway,” “Actually, I prefer the bike to be slower” etc etc.

You bought the bike based off the price. Stop acting like if literally any of the other manufacturers new bikes were the same price you would still go suzuki lol.

TbonesPop wrote:

Let's clarify your statement. The bikes were bought because of the VALUE (as in you get a LOT of bike, very reliable on at that, for...

Let's clarify your statement.

The bikes were bought because of the VALUE (as in you get a LOT of bike, very reliable on at that, for a very good price point to market). There's a difference between price and value. Suzukis are a tremendous value. They fulfill a niche' need in a niche' market.

deadlo wrote:

What? My point can still be proven here, again, if all manufacturers were the same price as i said, you would not get the suzuki. I...

What? My point can still be proven here, again, if all manufacturers were the same price as i said, you would not get the suzuki. I never said the price point isn’t a great value for what you get. It absolutely is. But my point was you guys getting this value bike and acting like it’s the greatest thing. It’s def a good bike, but you guys are getting full of yourselves on how good you think it is when I almost doubt many of you spent time on other new bikes.

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about...

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about it.it gets old

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about...

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about it.it gets old

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever. Here is my exact point and...

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my exact point and I will use my own bike in this.... my fc450 is not the best bike at all. It didn’t win the shootout, it has flaws. People hate the air forks. Do you see me or any other husky owners whining and trying to prove our bike is actually the best bike? No. Do you see me making posts about how everyone is wrong and the air fork is actually great? Or listing stats of pros who’ve done good on the husky? See where I’m going with this.... shut up about people with e start being sissies, about how much u just love that heavy pig, and just ride it dude.

You guys have these threads like it’s a Suzuki support group lmfao. “Ok guys, everyone say 3 nice things about the rmz”

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about...

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about it.it gets old

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever. Here is my exact point and...

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my exact point and I will use my own bike in this.... my fc450 is not the best bike at all. It didn’t win the shootout, it has flaws. People hate the air forks. Do you see me or any other husky owners whining and trying to prove our bike is actually the best bike? No. Do you see me making posts about how everyone is wrong and the air fork is actually great? Or listing stats of pros who’ve done good on the husky? See where I’m going with this.... shut up about people with e start being sissies, about how much u just love that heavy pig, and just ride it dude.

You guys have these threads like it’s a Suzuki support group lmfao. “Ok guys, everyone say 3 nice things about the rmz”

malachi177 wrote:

Are you 6? I’m going with total dipshit. No Suzuki owners are starting threads bragging about how its the best bike. It’s snowflakes like you that...

Are you 6? I’m going with total dipshit. No Suzuki owners are starting threads bragging about how its the best bike. It’s snowflakes like you that start the threads bagging on the brand. Then when Suzuki owners post up defending the bike you and the other trolls lose your minds because people actually like the bike. Its lame and it shows that you and the rest of the trolls have the mental capacity of a turnip.

jamiechapman418 wrote:

Some true, some false. If I had a choice of every bike at the same price I would not buy a Suzuki that is true. HOWEVER...

Some true, some false. If I had a choice of every bike at the same price I would not buy a Suzuki that is true. HOWEVER, many people, myself included, do actually prefer a kickstarter. Many people, myself included, can ride a less powerful bike faster around a track than the highest horsepower counterpart. Barcia ran a stock engine on his yz450f overseas at supercross and raved about how much more in control he felt and could use the engine much more to its fullest potential because of the less power. Many people, myself included, enjoy the process of adding parts to their machines and seeing the changes it makes to the bike, something that a lowest purchase priced new bike allows me to do. You are making assumptions toward a group of buyers/riders that simply isn't validated by anything other than opinion.

BobPA wrote:

How many of "you people" prefer to hand crank their cars?

No one prefers a kick starter, stop being ridiculous.

MotofactioN wrote:

That’s not even a valid point to make. We just started getting E start on dirtbikes. Don’t act like you weren’t kickstarting a dirtbike 5 years...

That’s not even a valid point to make. We just started getting E start on dirtbikes.

Don’t act like you weren’t kickstarting a dirtbike 5 years ago.

Were you handcranking your car a couple years ago too? You act like a kickstarter is a caveman thing.

Ever started a generator or a walking lawnmower with a pull string? Are those cavemen inventions too?

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever. Here is my exact point and...

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my exact point and I will use my own bike in this.... my fc450 is not the best bike at all. It didn’t win the shootout, it has flaws. People hate the air forks. Do you see me or any other husky owners whining and trying to prove our bike is actually the best bike? No. Do you see me making posts about how everyone is wrong and the air fork is actually great? Or listing stats of pros who’ve done good on the husky? See where I’m going with this.... shut up about people with e start being sissies, about how much u just love that heavy pig, and just ride it dude.

You guys have these threads like it’s a Suzuki support group lmfao. “Ok guys, everyone say 3 nice things about the rmz”

malachi177 wrote:

Are you 6? I’m going with total dipshit. No Suzuki owners are starting threads bragging about how its the best bike. It’s snowflakes like you that...

Are you 6? I’m going with total dipshit. No Suzuki owners are starting threads bragging about how its the best bike. It’s snowflakes like you that start the threads bagging on the brand. Then when Suzuki owners post up defending the bike you and the other trolls lose your minds because people actually like the bike. Its lame and it shows that you and the rest of the trolls have the mental capacity of a turnip.

deadlo wrote:

1. It’s a good looking bike 2. It turns decent (still think overrated, but It is good at that) 3. It’s cheap There dude, there’s your...

1. It’s a good looking bike
2. It turns decent (still think overrated, but It is good at that)
3. It’s cheap

There dude, there’s your three nice things to help you sleep tonight. You don’t have to be so harsh and call me a dipshit man

SEMAC wrote:

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about...

What's yours,surely You already have the Best bike there is,and yet time and time again You are always bashhing Suzuki,when ever there is a thread about it.it gets old

deadlo wrote:

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever. Here is my exact point and...

You guys coming in here blabbing about who did good on a Suzuki before as if it validates anything whatsoever.

Here is my exact point and I will use my own bike in this.... my fc450 is not the best bike at all. It didn’t win the shootout, it has flaws. People hate the air forks. Do you see me or any other husky owners whining and trying to prove our bike is actually the best bike? No. Do you see me making posts about how everyone is wrong and the air fork is actually great? Or listing stats of pros who’ve done good on the husky? See where I’m going with this.... shut up about people with e start being sissies, about how much u just love that heavy pig, and just ride it dude.

You guys have these threads like it’s a Suzuki support group lmfao. “Ok guys, everyone say 3 nice things about the rmz”

GODZILLA wrote:

They're cheap and down on performance: a perfect match for a Zook.

BobPA wrote:

How many of "you people" prefer to hand crank their cars?

No one prefers a kick starter, stop being ridiculous.

MotofactioN wrote:

That’s not even a valid point to make. We just started getting E start on dirtbikes. Don’t act like you weren’t kickstarting a dirtbike 5 years...

That’s not even a valid point to make. We just started getting E start on dirtbikes.

Don’t act like you weren’t kickstarting a dirtbike 5 years ago.

Were you handcranking your car a couple years ago too? You act like a kickstarter is a caveman thing.

Ever started a generator or a walking lawnmower with a pull string? Are those cavemen inventions too?

BobPA wrote:

Well, I bought my first 350 in 2011....So I am going on 10 years of hitting the magic button, anecdotal info of course. My 300 has...

Well, I bought my first 350 in 2011....So I am going on 10 years of hitting the magic button, anecdotal info of course. My 300 has a back up kicker, which is a great idea on a bike you ride in the woods...far from a tow vehicle.

I have had two starter failures since 2011, one was do to a crash, the second was caused by me overloading the stock charging system and burning up a stator.

Kick starting is caveman haha...e-start is pretty damn reliable, and clearly they have it lightweight.