Supercross live picture quality

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1/16/2021 9:48 AM

So I subscribed to supercross live as it's the only option for international viewers. Anyone else find the picture quality to be pretty sub par? I mean it's a $170 (cad) package. Awfully pricey for the quality I'm getting.

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1/16/2021 10:02 AM

Canada here too, the feed is terrible for Race Day Live... Definitely not on my end. Pretty disappointing for $170.

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1/16/2021 10:12 AM

same in the UK
buffering too

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1/16/2021 10:14 AM

Its really bad for its price. Just pixel blocks on every faster section of track.

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1/16/2021 10:26 AM

It gets better for thé night show... when it works

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1/16/2021 10:27 AM

Peacock streaming quality is excellent.

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1/16/2021 10:30 AM

It’s average at best. The audio and video is out of sync as well.

Last year was a lot better with the NBC Sports app. This is ridiculous.

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1/16/2021 10:32 AM

Perfectly fine for me in Japan!

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1/16/2021 10:40 AM

Everything looks great here. Streaming on a Apple TV to a 65” Sony OLED 4K TV. Looks better than Race Day Live did last year on the old NBC Sports App.

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1/16/2021 10:56 AM

OnTheCrossbar wrote:

Canada here too, the feed is terrible for Race Day Live... Definitely not on my end. Pretty disappointing for $170.

yeah last year i chalked the shit quality up to having an old laptop and an old modem. I've replaced both in the last few weeks and its not any better than last year.

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1/16/2021 10:57 AM

motoman617 wrote:

Everything looks great here. Streaming on a Apple TV to a 65” Sony OLED 4K TV. Looks better than Race Day Live did last year ...more

supercross live is only available to international viewers. You're probably using peacock which is different than how us international folks view the races.

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1/16/2021 10:59 AM

motoman617 wrote:

Everything looks great here. Streaming on a Apple TV to a 65” Sony OLED 4K TV. Looks better than Race Day Live did last year ...more

My quality has been perfect since the start of broadcast, same set up, Apple TV to 60” LED Samsung Photo

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1/16/2021 11:01 AM

motoman617 wrote:

Everything looks great here. Streaming on a Apple TV to a 65” Sony OLED 4K TV. Looks better than Race Day Live did last year ...more

Rushton597 wrote:

supercross live is only available to international viewers. You're probably using peacock which is different than how us ...more

I’m international (Canada) and my quality is good!

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1/16/2021 11:02 AM

RbR wrote:

Peacock streaming quality is excellent.

It's awesome and cheap.

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1/16/2021 11:02 AM

motoman617 wrote:

Everything looks great here. Streaming on a Apple TV to a 65” Sony OLED 4K TV. Looks better than Race Day Live did last year ...more

Brownie281 wrote:

My quality has been perfect since the start of broadcast, same set up, Apple TV to 60” LED Samsung Photo

for me the quality is fine until they show the bikes on the track. looks great when their in the booth but everything other than those specific parts looks like low quality sd.

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1/16/2021 11:12 AM
Edited Date/Time: 1/16/2021 11:14 AM

Picture quality is shit on the Peacock app. Looks like Minecraft Supercross.

Xfinity 1000mbps>Arris SB8200 modem>Eero Pro 6 router>Cat6 ethernet>Apple TV 4K>77” Sony A9G Master Series 4K OLED. Point is, it’s nothing on my end.

EDIT: Same as above, booth is flawless. One they switch to the other cameras on the track, picture goes to shit.

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1/16/2021 11:27 AM

Glad I’m not the only one. On track looked terrible like the frame rate wasn’t right. Everything was looking blurred.

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1/16/2021 11:39 AM

Perfect in Northern Ireland on an 7 year old iPad

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1/16/2021 11:40 AM

motoman617 wrote:

Everything looks great here. Streaming on a Apple TV to a 65” Sony OLED 4K TV. Looks better than Race Day Live did last year ...more

Brownie281 wrote:

My quality has been perfect since the start of broadcast, same set up, Apple TV to 60” LED Samsung Photo

Rushton597 wrote:

for me the quality is fine until they show the bikes on the track. looks great when their in the booth but everything other ...more

Exactly the same here, smh fuck

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1/16/2021 11:41 AM

Seems about the same quality at last years. Watching on Peacock through a firestick.

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1/16/2021 11:42 AM

Put the App on my firestick and its much better quality on tv

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1/16/2021 11:46 AM

RbR wrote:

Peacock streaming quality is excellent.

Are you paying for the Premium service to get SX?

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1/16/2021 11:47 AM

I’m using the same Vizio smart tv with same internet connect as NBC Gold and never had issues. This quality is horrible.

When they’re talking in the booth and the camera is stationary it’s fine, great and clear quality. When they are showing the on track practice it’s horrible. Blurry mess as the camera is trying to track the riders.

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1/16/2021 11:49 AM

I got the international pass and it's working great. No buffering for me.

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1/16/2021 11:53 AM

SX pass international (Canada) Photo 250A second qualifier is beautiful for me

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1/16/2021 11:57 AM

Still pictures look good....any camera movement or bike movement and it looks like shit. Loved the audio being out of sync today as well.

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1/17/2021 11:00 PM

Yups, picture quality is very bad in the Supercross Live feed.

It's funny those saying it's good is showing a still image or an image that is hardlive moving.

In short, seems the bitrate is very low, i.e they might be sending 720p/1080p but at a low bitrate. Seldom do we see such sh*tty quality on streaming TV nowadays.

My wild guess is that they have gotten much feedback on lagging/buffering, and instead of fixing that they reduced the bitrate so the picture is bad (but requires less bandwith thus no lag/buffering).

Was funny to compare some clips from C.Craigs wifes video camera compared to Supercross Live feed... haha, her 'feed' is 10x better, high enoigh bitrate so when the camera is moving over the field, fast action, no blur or very grainy interlacing...

It doesn't matter if you have a $4000 new Samsung TV or a old sh*tbox, same thing... some devices hide the low quality a bit better. Actually, if you watch it on a small mobile phone screen it's alright!!!!

Well well, I paid the $120, I'd pay it again since I want to watch supercross but a shame they don't deliver quality as expected on the web since what, 2010 ? smile They got stuck in 2005 it seems...

Great opening race btw, great race between BamBam and KRoc and C.Craig was so worth his win!

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1/17/2021 11:25 PM

Why they are using so low bitrate? On still images its clear but when bikes are moving it gets really bad.
Even our clubrace was better quality using just cheap cameras and free web stream service. NBSGold was ok but this is just BS.
Every year seems we are taking step back not forward with web streams.

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1/18/2021 12:13 AM

tek14 wrote:

Why they are using so low bitrate? On still images its clear but when bikes are moving it gets really bad.
Even our clubrace ...more

I have no idea, I'm no expert in broadcasting/world-wide streaming, even if I have spent a lot of time on video making. I suspect it is correlated to the business aspect, cost. Maybe they need more expensive broadcasting service (I assume they use some online platform) to facilitate more options, that is, low bandwith, low bitrate for those on not so fast internet connections and then high bitrate(high bandwith requirement) for those that can receive that (fast internet connection).

Maybe they truly have listened to customer feedback on lag/buffering and just simply reduced the quality.

I guess the only thing we can do is write customer support and kindly ask to improve it. They can always claim that it's working flawlessly, and yes it is... it's just we would like to have higher quality smile

btw. Is SupercrossLive essentially the same feed as Peacock? (I read some post that someone was complaining about Peacock video quality also and I even think they referred to Peacock in some commentary in the Supercross Live feed).



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1/18/2021 12:38 AM

The resolution is 1080, but the encoding (encoder) is crap on moving objects.

Still picture and interviews etc is good, moving objects and track + bikes is complete shit.

So yes, it is full HD and most likely 25frames, but the encoding is with a bad profile/algorithm.

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