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I thought I would start a thread on this to hear people's thoughts and experiences with Supercross Futures.
How many of you have done a round or 2 this year having never rode a supercross/arenacross track before?
Was it a pretty chilled day? Did you find the track easier to gel with than you thought?
Asking because I have the opportunity to race at Glendale and Oakland whilst I'm in California but have never ridden Supercross before. And truthfully don't race all that often. I would probably enter 125 B/C or play it safe and go 250C.
I'm sure the experience would be priceless but just keen on your guys thoughts..
How many of you have done a round or 2 this year having never rode a supercross/arenacross track before?
Was it a pretty chilled day? Did you find the track easier to gel with than you thought?
Asking because I have the opportunity to race at Glendale and Oakland whilst I'm in California but have never ridden Supercross before. And truthfully don't race all that often. I would probably enter 125 B/C or play it safe and go 250C.
I'm sure the experience would be priceless but just keen on your guys thoughts..
It’s a very long long day, but it’s organized as long as you pay attention you won’t miss anything, I raced 30 and 35 plus last year at Indy and made both mains ( 35 didn’t have too qualify ) but actually got a lot of track time between two practices, two qualifiers, and two mains, I had arm pump in half lap lol.
But if you can do it you should for sure.
There were a ton of guys that had no technical skills or training and thought they were going to be Ricky Carmichael. It didn't take long for the track to eat their lunch.
At the championship in Las Vegas the track WASNT tamed down at all. Only joker lane was removed.
Track was technical AF. Very unforgiving, kid in my son's class had a fatal accident.
Here are a couple of GoPro videos, had a rough go in Las Vegas, two broken clutch levers and a rock locking the front brake.
He was doubling into the sand section at 60mph
Houston was good, at the end you can kind of see me tackle my boy after he qualified for the championship
https://youtu.be/3-9iolhItLI
https://youtu.be/t9revMNrAA4
1. Make sure you register early! Your heat race gate pick is based on the order you registered. Starts are super important in supercross because it's tough to pass, so you'll want to have a good gate pick.
2. You only get 3-4 laps of practice per class in the morning. Make sure you pay attention to the track during track walk and visualize/plan out your lines. 3-4 laps is not nearly enough time, so you'll need to be jumping stuff right away. You better have all the jumps down within your 3-4 lap practice.
3. If you can afford it, do more than 1 class. Otherwise, you will literally sit at the stadium all day long for 3-4 laps of practice, 4 lap heat, 3 lap lcq (if needed), and the main which is 6-8laps. Two classes will give you double the track time within the same timeframe.
4. Practice before you get there! Anaheim 2 track layout was only slightly tamed down from the pro layout. It was way gnarlier than what I had been practicing leading up to it.
5. If you can afford it, get your suspension set up a little stiffer than your normal motocross setup. I ran a stiff motocross valving and was bottoming out in the transitions in the rhythm sections and such.
For the OP, just go for it and have fun. Ride within your comfort zone and avoid guys who are clearly in over their head you’ll have a ton of fun trying a new discipline. I did Oakland and the national championships in Vegas this year and they were two of the most fun moto races I’ve done, highly recommended. I love bmx so for me it was like being able to ride dirt jumps on my moto bike, tons of fun and a new challenge!
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Where would there be in SoCal with an amateur Sx track now that Milestone has closed?
I could probably do the 125 class and the 250c class so I could double my time on track.
Any suggestions on where to practice?
Ive got my suspension set up a little stiffer to suit ramps anyway and can turn up the preload if needed so I should hopefully be good there! Should help with casing and over jumping which I'm sure there'll be lots of
Will have to figure out if I can get to Arizona Cycle Park but that would be ideal. I'd love to get at least a little feel for rhythm lanes and whoops sections.
If Glendale goes well I’m going to put in a second entry at Oakland for 125 B/C.
No expectations besides have fun and qualify
Plus also take into consideration that your going to be sitting around in a cold stadium all day. Do some warm up exercises before your moto's. Like jumping jacks or a short jog. Something to get blood flowing and warm up your body.
I found that when i was warned up vs just going out cold i could ride better especially during the beginning of the moto. If i went out cold i wouldn't get warmed up until the end of the moto when it was too late.
In 2019, I raced again but this year i did two classes which I highly recommend. there is a lot of sitting around a waiting to do your short sprint of a race. Although the races do go fast, there is about 30 some-odd classes that have to go throughout the day, not considering if they have two separate heat races or not. I ended up have a big get off in my heat in my 250C class, but won the LCQ to make the main. The open C class I did I pulled a 7th after missing my original heat race (that i would've had 1st gate pick for). The AMA luckily let me slid with last gate[ pick. So another tip is its better to be early to staging and wait then miss your race. In my mains I got 6th and 13th after some carnage, but man I had so much fun!
Somehow i got alternate positions into the national championship in Vegas. I was not expecting that beefy of a track. I was in the same division where that rider had his fatal crash. He collapsed a lung and was conscious when he left the stadium, but did not make it to the hospital. I qualified 3rd and 5th respectably going into race day. I was so pumped with my riding especially with a much gnarlier track. I had an weird feeling going into racing. If you guys watch the deegans youtube, they have video of another rider endo-ing in the razorback, and the second kid to crash was me. i tried to bail, feet got caught in the bars, and it was lighs out for me. I finished the race and went straight to my dad and asked him "was that practice?" I was pretty bummed, I felt like I couldve gotten on the podium, but I was just happy that racing a motorcycle was able to get me to go out there.
Some major tips for anyone interested in signing up,
1. If you have a local amateur SX track, utilize it. I live in socal, but work a fulltime job to support my racing the best i can. i still have not ridden a supercross track outside of these futures races and that is where I feel I lacked the most.
2. STARTS ARE VITAL. The pros stress this for a reason. Especially in sx, where the track are so much tighter. There is not a lot of room for error, especially with multiple riding flying around you.
3.Try to get some sort of a SX suspension setup, Although the track is tamed down, it will help tremendously. I had stock suspension on my bike and you can tell from the film my friends that I was fighting that bike like a bucking bronco.
4. GET THERE EARLY. Year 1 I missed track walk due to the massive line to get in for parking.
5. HAVE FUN! I saw so many families especially at these races leaving unhappy, but completely ignore the fact the you as a racer get to race in the same setting as a professional. I feel like this is due to the high intensity atmosphere, and everyone feels they have something to prove rather than living i the moment. Live it up, we ride dirtbikes for fun right?
Hope this was helpful to some of you. Ill be back in Anaheim racing the open C and college-boy classes. Look for #311 on the Kawi! See you guys at the races!
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