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What do you guys reccomend? I'm looking for a good set of studded tires. What are the options.
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bartziokas123 12/7/2019 1:06pm
12/7/2019 1:06pm
3 best options but all expensive
1. Grip studs. Expensive studs, labor intensive and you have to buy the tires. Positive, you can take good studs out and re use them on next tires you build
2. Mitas Winter friction Studded, Very expensive, no labor required, best performing offroad studded tire.
3. Buy Stud gun and Stud your own tires. This is labor intensive but if you own the Stud gun the studs are relatively cheap in comparison to other studs. This is a good option if you have some buddies that want to split the gun.
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agn5009 12/7/2019 1:57pm
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I ran Trellborgs years ago and always liked them. I was kind of hoping there would be some cheaper complete tire options though. Unfortunately I dont ride quite enough anymore to justify spending $600-700 on a set of tires.
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Dave538 12/7/2019 2:50pm
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KEVINS CYCLE makes some studded tires that are a little cheaper. However, my advice is to spend the money on the mitas tires. They last so much longer and work so much better
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agn5009 12/7/2019 4:56pm
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Where can I find a mitas trellaborg? I can't seem to find them from any dealers.
max schnell 12/7/2019 5:25pm
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Depends on your local conditions
This is my setup using one of my mx takeoffs from summer
Holiday ice racing screws 5/8 for rear,1/2 for front
No special tools to build( drill and beer?)
Better than carbide studs because you can get more screws per knob.As long as you don’t start with a baldy those lengths of screw don’t go thru into your tube .
Winter riding kicks ass, no dirty filters!


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Adam43 12/7/2019 8:39pm
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$100 worth of 5/8” kold kutters works good for me, depending on snow level. Trail use only. Good times on an old two stroke.


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zippytech 12/8/2019 4:42am
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We just run good old sheet metal screws.. I even was going figure 8's a on pavement trying to rip a screw out and I never lost any of them.nor was there much damage to the screws.



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NATEP231 12/8/2019 6:24am
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Are you looking to ride trails or JUST ice?
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JMX82 12/8/2019 7:18am
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In Finland we a lot of different options for studded tires besides well known Trelleborrg/Mitas . If you are riding just on pure ice you will be fine with screws but if you want to ride trails or motocross tracks you will need studded tires.

Here's some web pages from Finland who are selling studded tires. Maybe shipping to US might be possible as well

http://www.kisarengas.fi/talvihinnasto.html#enduro

https://www.satapiikki.fi/epages/satapiikki.mobile/fi_FI/?ObjectPath=/S…

I went out riding with studded tires for the first time in this winter today. It definitely takes some time get used to riding with studded tires because the weight of the studs adds gyroscopic effect and makes bike feel bit different in jumps and corners.


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agn5009 12/8/2019 12:18pm
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NATEP231 wrote:
Are you looking to ride trails or JUST ice?
I'll be riding trails.
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Monk 12/8/2019 1:22pm
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Owned Trells, awesome units but pricey...

Buddy had custom units he built using sled studs... Pretty much made it look like my Trells were just normal rubber tires..

Currently put in GripStuds, look to be as good as my Trells but at about the half the cost...
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Nate_Ferderer 12/8/2019 4:35pm
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I spent a couple winters using grip studs. 150 of the 1800R stud in the rear and 100 1740 for the front. It’s about $300 to get started with that. It worked ok but I got sick of changing studs tire to tire. I can only get about 3 rides out of a rear before they chunk. Not just knobs falling off, but entire rows tearing down to the tube or mousse. I tried various soft and hard compounds from Dunlop, Kenda, and Bridgestone with no clear best.

Last winter I dropped $700 for a set of Mitas from Kevin’s Cycle. I was disappointed to have the studs pulling out after 2 rides. Traction is great, but durability is nothing like the old Trelleborgs. I was riding in 12” and not on rocks or ice, far from what I consider harsh conditions.

I race pro level off-road, maybe at slower speeds these are viable options. I’m still searching for a good performing reliable studded tire for me.
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BobPA 12/8/2019 5:37pm
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Nate_Ferderer wrote:
I spent a couple winters using grip studs. 150 of the 1800R stud in the rear and 100 1740 for the front. It’s about $300 to...
I spent a couple winters using grip studs. 150 of the 1800R stud in the rear and 100 1740 for the front. It’s about $300 to get started with that. It worked ok but I got sick of changing studs tire to tire. I can only get about 3 rides out of a rear before they chunk. Not just knobs falling off, but entire rows tearing down to the tube or mousse. I tried various soft and hard compounds from Dunlop, Kenda, and Bridgestone with no clear best.

Last winter I dropped $700 for a set of Mitas from Kevin’s Cycle. I was disappointed to have the studs pulling out after 2 rides. Traction is great, but durability is nothing like the old Trelleborgs. I was riding in 12” and not on rocks or ice, far from what I consider harsh conditions.

I race pro level off-road, maybe at slower speeds these are viable options. I’m still searching for a good performing reliable studded tire for me.
I've had a similar experience as you. Made my own, they worked OK, but studs and knobs were always flying apart.

Bought Trelly's and tore the rear up relatively quickly...but I was also in rocks. But, all in all, it performed as I expected.

If you are on a budget, I would take a used front and stud it with some kold kutters or equivalent. I think the Mitas or Trelleborgs are the best bet out back. Homemade rears never held up well enough to justify the time and $ to build.

Check FB market place, you can usually find a used set for reasonable. I quit riding in the cold, snowmobiles are much better for snow....
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JMX82 12/8/2019 10:42pm
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Rocky surfaces and studded tires do not work well together. I usually ride only sandy surfaces with studs and I can easily ride two seasons with one rear tire and front tire will last forever. Running too high air pressure will kill your tires quickly too. 0.8 bar ( 11.6 psi) is max pressure that you can use with studs. If you are making studded tires yourself use proper glue like Loctite 480 with the studs to ensure that they stay on the tire. Also amount of studs is crucial how long the tire will last. More studs equals longer lasting tire but you also lose traction so you need to find a good balance point with traction and tire longevity


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hellion 12/9/2019 4:15am
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Pretty much what BobPA and Nate said. In the beginning I tried screws. The fronts stayed in pretty well, but the rears would be destroyed in half of a ride. I bought a stud gun and studded my own. My shoulders got a lot stronger probably from making several of these tires. But these car type studs didn’t hook up very well at all. Maybe a good option for frozen dirt only. Then the original Trellies. These were the best. Unfortunately they were shut down and eventually re-emerged as Mitas. These tires look the same and work as well as trellies but seem to not last as long. Still, the best choice most of the time. If you’re looking to save some $, search mikes studded tires, he makes something close and he has a good rep here in New England.
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ben990 12/9/2019 11:58am
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I used these at the Broome-Tioga snow scramble last Saturday and they worked great. 1 1/4" Tapcon screws.

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bernnet 12/11/2019 10:06pm
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Just saw this video.

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racerx217 12/12/2019 2:46pm
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Ice only setup, MF1 screw tires. Only way to go cost to make or buy a set is expensive and they dont last long. A rear will only last a season and a front will last a couple but man its a blast.
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