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aeffertz
8/30/2017 3:37pm
8/30/2017 3:37pm
Tired of this excuse from dudes who have been on the bike for over a year. Bro, if you can't find a setting on the factory bike you've been riding for multiple years, it ain't the bike.
If you do well one weekend and struggle the next on practically the same track, it ain't the bike.
If a GP dude can come over, run a completely new bike, with a different frame and tires than what he ever runs, and goes 1-1 (coming from dead last one moto) on the day... It ain't the bike.
If you do well one weekend and struggle the next on practically the same track, it ain't the bike.
If a GP dude can come over, run a completely new bike, with a different frame and tires than what he ever runs, and goes 1-1 (coming from dead last one moto) on the day... It ain't the bike.
It's just been an excuse.
The Shop
Watch cairolis machine in that great ride through the field at his home race this year for a well setup bike
THE
SET
UPPPPPPPP
Even the magazines when they test the bike on the east coast want to bring them back to CA to get the feel of their home tracks.
to make it feel like his gp bike.
We are also talking about riders who can tell the difference in a 5mm foot peg raise / lowerd and about 1000 other little thing most of us wouldn't.
It does for sure sound like a shitty excuse....but dang it man , going at those speeds , everything is noticeable.
Just saying.....
Blaming the bike is really an admission that they aren't very good at setting the bike up, still their fault, still in their control.
His suspension setup looks way more compliant and active than any US based rider except for Kenny, that was the thing I saw and I bet that made more difference than any 1-2mm frame difference would make, especially on the great traction at Iron Man.
Pit Row
But you know at the end of the day it's a dirt bike.
Too many riders get it in their head that somehow a half turn on the clickers is gonna make a difference. It's not.
Too many riders chase settings to the point they don't even know what the fuck they like. So when they under perform as a rider they just blame "settings".
I was not super picky on bike setup. Sure I like a certain set of bars, grips, and my levers in a certain position. Blah blah blah. When I was out on the test track with Bones I would pretty much go with what he said looked good. You are already in a zone setting wise and he can make a few fine adjustments. When you are wide open on a rough track you don't even notice a difference. You are already in a good zone setting wise. And this zone will work on most tracks in most conditions on most dirt types. You will notice a bigger difference just running the right tire for the right conditions then trying to fine tune yourself with minutiae. Think paralysis by analysis.
You can go ask Bones how many times riders chase settings and he will say to the rider he made a change when he really didn't. Rider goes out and says he likes the change even though Bones never even made a change!
It's all in the head man.
Getting the bike "dailed in" basically means I lack confidence within myself.
Tomac what happened during round 3? Someone got hurt and Tomac magically looked like a new human from there on I wonder why?
Those last 2% is very hard to dial in, in practice mode, on a practice groomed track with few other riders pushing the pace.
Look at Tomac coming into this years Supercross. He left the bike, did not touch the settings or setup from Monstercup to A1 because he felt the bike was good, to then find out he was off. Took a few rounds to fix it but then he was back on top. Other examples:
- Roczen 2016, completely off until he switched triple clamps and some other things
- Colt Nichols (changed to Ferrandis setup for Ironman)
KTM has had 3 seasons to dial in the suspension. Even Dungey was struggeling in 2015 with settings.
Again, getting those last 1-2% is rarely something you are able to find on a practice track.
And agree with the post above.
So a few clicks equals seconds per lap?
That's a good joke.
I would consider triple clamps a fairly substantial change. You are mixing up minor and substantial changes but then say a few clicks equals "seconds per lap".
Sorry. That's not how it works.
Feels more like "I was moody the last 3 races and didn't give it my all because of X"
It's when they start getting lost in the push rod length, spring, front wheel position combos that they are really saying they messed up their bike setup.
I really think they get to much SX setups stuck in their heads!
2-3 sec per lap, easilly on setup regardless if it is 1-2mm of offset, or changing clickers. AMA Pro licens says shit, i almost had a pro licens. I "worked" with top suspension tuners incl Factory ohlins boys.
Im guessing also you can just remove the pit area on the track since it makes no difference on lap times how you turn your clicks.
That just shows you have not been at the level where that makes a difference.
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