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11/22/2018 11:24 AM

I just read in the "KTM250sx vs 350" thread about a couple of short dudes and their choice of steed. Put me in that category, 5'5" and 28" inseam. I have a 2018 Husky FC350 and love the bike but dang it is it tall (as are all modern mx bikes). E-Start sure helps but I still feel like I sit on it more than in it b/c I am so far from the ground. I found a 2 prong solution at AOMC (great website-just made my first online order), with a Zeta lowering link and Husky does offer a short seat for their line, so I ordered both, but won't know how they feel or work as winter will have me wondering for the next 4 months.

Has anyone used either the Zeta link or a Ride Engineering link for their 350? Where did you put the fork height? I'm hoping between the two I will be much closer to terra firma. Any other suggestions would be welcome.

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11/22/2018 12:23 PM

bents wrote:

I just read in the "KTM250sx vs 350" thread about a couple of short dudes and their choice of steed. Put me in that category, ...more

Have a read of these two previous posts about the same issue

//www.vitalmx.com/forums/Race-Shop,42/2013-KTM-250-SXF-suspension-lowering,1273653[/url]

//www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/17-YZ250F-For-The-Vertically-Challenged,1304790[/url]

They may provide help/ideas for you.

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11/22/2018 12:32 PM

I'm short as well and haven't really found anything yet that helps lower it. did you have your rear shock valved for the lowering link?

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11/22/2018 12:39 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/22/2018 12:42 PM

Having owned a 350 SX-F and being a short guy (29in inseam) my advice is leave it. I didn't shorten anything and had all kinds of fun on that thing.

You're not supposed to put your feet on the ground because you should be standing most of the time anyway... unless you're railing ruts and draggin bar thru the corners. haha

I'd worry more about how the cockpit feels (rider triangle) and getting your suspension dialed for your weight.

You can touch the ground with one leg. Essentially that's good enough to start and stop. (Remember this is a dirt bike not a Harley. No need to have both feet on the ground.)

Save your money and enjoy your bike and all the suspension travel it has to offer.

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11/22/2018 1:40 PM

Lowering links are worthless they make the back of the bike way too soft and throw the handling off. I went through this with my son's fiance she's only 5'3", just put a low seat on it correct springs for your weight and deal with it.

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11/22/2018 1:50 PM

I’d avoid the linkage arm or other means to lower the bike. Your handling will be compromised...

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11/22/2018 2:25 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/22/2018 2:27 PM

5'5? I've got you sorted fam.

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11/22/2018 6:07 PM

Funny guy Woody.....I have had my suspension shortened in past years and I did not like that one bit. But in as much as I am leery of compromising the stock suspension, I have had lowering links on some of my Yamahas and once I got the front forks set I preferred being closer to the ground. I realize I'm not riding my 1978 RM 125 here, but I would like to feel like I could get fairly close to tippy toes with both feet. Just wondering what others have done and the success and comfort they might have found with one or more of these set ups. Some bikes actually benefit from a slightly longer link and I believe some are used at the top levels.

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"If you don't put your work ahead of your talent, you won't win." Mike Babcock

11/22/2018 6:18 PM

bents wrote:

Funny guy Woody.....I have had my suspension shortened in past years and I did not like that one bit. But in as much as I am ...more

I guarantee you no pro-rider are using a lower link maybe a pull link which has very little effect on the height of the bike.

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11/22/2018 6:24 PM

Have you guys tried growing yet

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11/22/2018 7:08 PM

bents wrote:

Funny guy Woody.....I have had my suspension shortened in past years and I did not like that one bit. But in as much as I am ...more

RCF wrote:

I guarantee you no pro-rider are using a lower link maybe a pull link which has very little effect on the height of the bike.

I'm not going to argue the point with you but I believe I remember pro circuit and JGR (both Yamaha and Suzuki) making and using slightly longer links for their bikes. And they obviously sell them as well.

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11/22/2018 7:37 PM

If I were you, I’d lower the subframe and get taller footpegs. I think Alex Martin was running +20mm footpegs.
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11/22/2018 7:54 PM

Carlino-thought about lowering the subframe but with the composite on the Husky not sure if I can do that. I know JGR had those trick adjustable sub frames for the their Yamahas and sold them as well. The foot pegs don't get me any closer to the ground. I would like to feel closer to the ground, enough so that I can swing my leg over the bike without having to use my bike stand or anything else to keep me from constantly having to maintain perfect balance on one foot.

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"If you don't put your work ahead of your talent, you won't win." Mike Babcock

11/22/2018 8:10 PM

Looking at pics of the FC350 I don't think shaving the seat is much of an option either. There's nothing there to shave!

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Powerband in every gear !

11/22/2018 8:41 PM

Well thankfully FGR01, Husky does sell a "short" seat that I did order and will give that a go before I do anything else.

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"If you don't put your work ahead of your talent, you won't win." Mike Babcock

11/22/2018 8:49 PM

bents wrote:

Carlino-thought about lowering the subframe but with the composite on the Husky not sure if I can do that. I know JGR had ...more

Yeah sorry missed the Husky bike talk.

If you talk to a suspension company like Factory Connection or Race Tech, they can lower both ends and keep the bike handleing pretty close to stock. You will give up some performance benefits but if you feel more confident, maybe you will ride faster?

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11/23/2018 2:03 AM

RCF wrote:

Lowering links are worthless they make the back of the bike way too soft and throw the handling off. I went through this with ...more

You do realize you are supposed to make adjustments to your suspension when using a lowering link?

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11/23/2018 2:38 AM

I'm 5,8 (175 cm) and using the (KTM powerparts) lower seat on my EXC300 (XC-W in the US), dont have real issues with the seat height anymore. What also helped in my case was a suspension job which helped me set the right sag. I'm too light for the stock se pretty light at ~135 pounds.

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mixing gas and haulin ass

11/23/2018 5:01 AM

kb228 wrote:

Have you guys tried growing yet

When do you go on your? You’re really fucking funny

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11/23/2018 5:38 AM

RCF wrote:

Lowering links are worthless they make the back of the bike way too soft and throw the handling off. I went through this with ...more

Paul333 wrote:

You do realize you are supposed to make adjustments to your suspension when using a lowering link?

Yes I know how lowering links work, you know you're not supposed to jump a bike with a lowering link there's a warning that comes with them, they're intended for Trail Riders. They lower the back of the bike too much, if you push the Forks all the way up to the handlebars the bike is still not going to sit right without having the forks lowered internally.
The Op is confusing lowering link with the pull link,pull link's are used to affect the handling of the bike and don't really affect the seat height that much.
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11/23/2018 6:07 AM

bents wrote:

Carlino-thought about lowering the subframe but with the composite on the Husky not sure if I can do that. I know JGR had ...more

CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:

Yeah sorry missed the Husky bike talk.

If you talk to a suspension company like Factory Connection or Race Tech, they can ...more

Yes I might do that and I would hope to be more comfortable=quicker. And RCF, I sort of get what you are saying here but by that picture it is hard to tell the difference. I always assumed a longer link was a longer link, even by a few mils.

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"If you don't put your work ahead of your talent, you won't win." Mike Babcock

11/23/2018 6:42 AM

bents wrote:

Yes I might do that and I would hope to be more comfortable=quicker. And RCF, I sort of get what you are saying here but by ...more

The one I posted is actually an adjustable one, if you look at the picture you can see an aluminum insert that can be turned to manipulate the length of the rod. The one you mentioned the pro circuit is a one-size-fits-all and like you state it is only a few millimeters longer than stock and you're not going to feel much of a difference in seat height , a true lowering link drop the back of the bike over 2 in and are not intended for aggressive riding.

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11/23/2018 6:48 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/23/2018 6:49 AM

bents wrote:

Carlino-thought about lowering the subframe but with the composite on the Husky not sure if I can do that. I know JGR had ...more

I had the same issue on my Kawi 450. I cut the seat down. Problem solved. Much more comfortable in the turns too.
My buddy is shorter than me. He cut his seat down on his RMZ 450 and added a lowering link. He loves it and is a very fast vet rider.

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11/23/2018 6:55 AM

CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:

Yeah sorry missed the Husky bike talk.

If you talk to a suspension company like Factory Connection or Race Tech, they can ...more

bents wrote:

Yes I might do that and I would hope to be more comfortable=quicker. And RCF, I sort of get what you are saying here but by ...more

RCF wrote:

The one I posted is actually an adjustable one, if you look at the picture you can see an aluminum insert that can be turned ...more

Thanks and will keep this in mind.

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"If you don't put your work ahead of your talent, you won't win." Mike Babcock

11/23/2018 7:01 AM

bents wrote:

Carlino-thought about lowering the subframe but with the composite on the Husky not sure if I can do that. I know JGR had ...more

Indy mxer wrote:

I had the same issue on my Kawi 450. I cut the seat down. Problem solved. Much more comfortable in the turns too.
My buddy is ...more

Indy, this is what I am after-that same feeling. If the change in seat height isn't enough I'll look to the next step, but I will keep in mind what RCF has said. Problem is I have to wait till late March/early April to find out what works! When I got the suspension lowered on my earlier Yamahas, I loved how I felt on the bike, but the suspension characteristics weren't the same, but that was a number of years ago. I would suspect that a company like Factory Connection would do an excellent job and I would feel much better. I would consider this route again as well. I think we forget how a lower bike used to feel as through the years these things just keep going up. I remember looking at a 2018 KXF 250 and I thought to myself, how the hell am I going to even swing a leg over this thing? I saw in my mind the domino effect of the bike in that row going down as I toppled over the freaking bike.

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"If you don't put your work ahead of your talent, you won't win." Mike Babcock

11/23/2018 8:31 AM

bents wrote:

Carlino-thought about lowering the subframe but with the composite on the Husky not sure if I can do that. I know JGR had ...more

Indy mxer wrote:

I had the same issue on my Kawi 450. I cut the seat down. Problem solved. Much more comfortable in the turns too.
My buddy is ...more

bents wrote:

Indy, this is what I am after-that same feeling. If the change in seat height isn't enough I'll look to the next step, but I ...more

The positive about using a top notch company is that they can lower both ends and valve for similer performance. Just lowering the rear, you could raise the forks in the clamps but they might have a better plan that’s tested and proven.

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11/23/2018 8:46 AM

bents wrote:

Well thankfully FGR01, Husky does sell a "short" seat that I did order and will give that a go before I do anything else.

Well Bent's......I hope your butt / tailbone are made of steel , because the stock seat was even to stiff for me. I got hit hard by mine and actually cracked my tailbone last summer. I ended up having to get a 1" taller , same density foam and cover from Guts racing. Best thing I ever did to my 125 , was that damn seat! I do see where you are coming from though , with not being very tall. I'm 6'-1" , so the taller seat actually helped me I think.

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11/23/2018 11:04 AM

I had my suspension lowered on my 350, by TooTech. Great value. I’m 5’7” and have a 31” inseam. Love the way it handles.

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11/23/2018 11:25 AM

Husky sell a OEM seat that is 20mm lower than stock
I think the bike sits high on the front end stock, but to shorten the forks, you need to get the air side cartridge rod shortened and re threaded

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11/23/2018 11:34 AM

bents wrote:

Well thankfully FGR01, Husky does sell a "short" seat that I did order and will give that a go before I do anything else.

jeffro503 wrote:

Well Bent's......I hope your butt / tailbone are made of steel , because the stock seat was even to stiff for me. I got hit ...more

Yes, well that seat does look thin and Bruce below noted the difference in heights-thanks Bruce. I didn't find the stock seat too hard but that seat cover sure is grippy. Maybe it will get my old ass to stand up more Jeffro! Lots of options here and appreciate all the advice. CG118-I will look into Too Tech and how they do it because as Bruce says the air side has to be modified. Didn't think of that. Maybe I will go spring conversion and get it shortened at the same time and keep the stock air internals, stock.

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"If you don't put your work ahead of your talent, you won't win." Mike Babcock