Straight Rhythm Shenanigans

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Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in the finals? Did that really legitimately happen??? I loved it but really???
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10/22/2017 8:53am
pummel wrote:
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in...
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in the finals? Did that really legitimately happen??? I loved it but really???
It was legit, Ronnie rode his butt off. Ronnie now has broken ribs too...
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10/22/2017 11:34am
pummel wrote:
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in...
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in the finals? Did that really legitimately happen??? I loved it but really???
Yes I was there in person and enjoyed the 2 stroke races more.
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10/22/2017 11:42am
see also:

grassy knoll
moon landing

I think it was not a government conspiracy, but a real race.
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10/22/2017 12:45pm
Amazing that anyone could think the race was fixed to NOT put RV in the final! Dude hasnt raced in America in 2 years, but yeah its better to rig it to put stankdog up there Huh

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10/22/2017 1:03pm
At one point when RV had lost a race and Ronnie Mac was 1 away from the finals, I thought it might be fixed. But watching Ronnie race has ass off and RV do the same only to maker a small mistake, I decided it wasn't fixed.

Hats off the everyone for a great, entertaining event!
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10/22/2017 1:12pm
Who thinks Stankdog vs Ronnie is better then
Ronnie vs RV?
Ronnie vs Reed?
Reed vs RV?
Mike Brown vs GNCC Sipes?

That class was awesome, no matter who advanced and who didnt. Even without Reed
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10/22/2017 1:14pm Edited Date/Time 10/22/2017 1:16pm
RV is the man and I had him winning even if Reed was able to race. I also had Ronnie Mac acting a little more normal and throwing some beers around but Mac was ready!
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10/22/2017 1:25pm
Ronnie Mac for Team USA MXDN 2018
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10/22/2017 1:32pm
I'm not exactly sure why so many people had RV picked for this. He's never raced a 2 stroke at a professional level has he? And based on the past few interviews it doesn't even sound like he rides anymore.
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10/22/2017 2:22pm
The 2 strokes are harder to ride which made for better racing IMO. Dump the 4 strokes and have a 125, 250 and 500cc 2 strokes classes. Pastrana could bring his 500 backout again.
10/22/2017 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 10/22/2017 2:42pm
Its funny people saying it was fixed or a "show". We saw actual racing without the displacement advantage and brand politics.

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10/22/2017 2:42pm
KDXGarage wrote:
see also:

grassy knoll
moon landing

I think it was not a government conspiracy, but a real race.
See also:

Gulf of Tonkin
MK Ultra
Operation northwoods

Wink

I think RV just rode like a guy that used to be fast who no longer trains and who has never ridden a two stroke on a sx track. I don't think it was rigged
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10/22/2017 2:48pm
You see that rigid ass 98' frame give ol' Ronnie the buck? Hated my 97'.
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10/22/2017 2:48pm
I don't think it was rigged because if it was you would have had RV moving on, but I know if I was the promoter me and my checkbook may have had a talk with Sipes when the possibility of RM69 going the the main occurred.
10/22/2017 2:56pm
pummel wrote:
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in...
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in the finals? Did that really legitimately happen??? I loved it but really???
ML512 wrote:
It was legit, Ronnie rode his butt off. Ronnie now has broken ribs too...
Damn that sucks. I remember a certain racer from Oklahoma mentioning how he wasn't really interested in racing SX anymore so to hear that is pretty rough.
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10/22/2017 8:09pm
pummel wrote:
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in...
Anyone think that maybe the 2 stroke class may have been a little bit more of a show than race last night? Stank and Mac in the finals? Did that really legitimately happen??? I loved it but really???
ML512 wrote:
It was legit, Ronnie rode his butt off. Ronnie now has broken ribs too...
I thought Top Jimmy wouldn't be willing to take any big risks after that nasty broken back he suffered in Daytona. Guess not. Whistling
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10/22/2017 8:32pm
Nah, it looked legit to me.
You could see the intensity of Jimmy..ahem..Ronnie. Those first gen Honda's were pretty brutal.
2 strokes are a great leveller.

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tempura wrote:
Nah, it looked legit to me.
You could see the intensity of Jimmy..ahem..Ronnie. Those first gen Honda's were pretty brutal.
2 strokes are a great leveller.

Cylinder reed.
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My 93 cr250r was a monster and steered like the devil.
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What happened to that enduro guy Haaker? He did run like 10m or so?
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I think it speaks loudly of the state of our sport when a retired racer(s) and Ronnie Mac on 2 stroke machinery garners the level of interest they have. I have to admit, I was more interested on who would win this than any of the other "current" riders. Perhaps there is something to be learned from this. Does the sport need more "characters" or has the racing become boring?......food for thought.
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10/23/2017 7:03am
Canadad wrote:
I think it speaks loudly of the state of our sport when a retired racer(s) and Ronnie Mac on 2 stroke machinery garners the level of...
I think it speaks loudly of the state of our sport when a retired racer(s) and Ronnie Mac on 2 stroke machinery garners the level of interest they have. I have to admit, I was more interested on who would win this than any of the other "current" riders. Perhaps there is something to be learned from this. Does the sport need more "characters" or has the racing become boring?......food for thought.
I recorded it. Skipped most of the 4 stroke races except Hannys. Watched the 2 stroke races and Hanny/ Moosecan. The rest of the races, had zero interest in them.
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10/23/2017 7:11am
Seemed like the retired guys were having the most fun which generated the most interest to me. Two two stroke latter legends in the final. Loved it
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10/23/2017 7:16am
Seemed like the retired guys were having the most fun which generated the most interest to me. Two two stroke latter legends in the final. Loved...
Seemed like the retired guys were having the most fun which generated the most interest to me. Two two stroke latter legends in the final. Loved it
only "rigged" thing to do with the event w/Red Bull (Austrian) and KTM (Austrian) and not 1 other factory effort there, still was entertaining though
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10/23/2017 8:35am
Ronnie rode the SHIT out of that '97 turd, what a badass motherfucker
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10/23/2017 8:37am Edited Date/Time 10/23/2017 8:38am
Dtat720 wrote:
I recorded it. Skipped most of the 4 stroke races except Hannys. Watched the 2 stroke races and Hanny/ Moosecan. The rest of the races, had...
I recorded it. Skipped most of the 4 stroke races except Hannys. Watched the 2 stroke races and Hanny/ Moosecan. The rest of the races, had zero interest in them.
It's never a good sign when the "sideshow" has more interest than the main event!! Supercross announcement today....perhaps someone has recognised a need for change.
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10/23/2017 8:45am
That wheelie in the final round was next level. Dude has an enormous sack.. He attacked that course harder than anyone all night.
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10/23/2017 11:27am
Seemed like the retired guys were having the most fun which generated the most interest to me. Two two stroke latter legends in the final. Loved...
Seemed like the retired guys were having the most fun which generated the most interest to me. Two two stroke latter legends in the final. Loved it
Coyote wrote:
only "rigged" thing to do with the event w/Red Bull (Austrian) and KTM (Austrian) and not 1 other factory effort there, still was entertaining though
all you can do is ask the other manufactures why they weren't there to put on a show for the crowd.. like every year, they were all invited.

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10/23/2017 11:31am
I noticed a lot of Shenanigans in the stands. Looked like multiple fights among the typical Pamona crowd.
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10/23/2017 1:33pm
kott0n wrote:
You see that rigid ass 98' frame give ol' Ronnie the buck? Hated my 97'.
You gotta be kidding me if you think the frame was the reason he got bucked. Believe me I know that frame wasn't the greatest, but I guarantee he would have gotten bucked on any bike he was riding. That fall was caused by a mistake in his timing, not the "Frame".

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