Stock KX450F at Lake Elsinore National

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9/17/2012 10:46pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2012 6:02am
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F.

One of the reasons we did this was to challenge some of the rhetoric that often pops up on here that stock, or even modified, equipment can't compete against factory machinery. Take a look to see how it all went down (apologies in advance for some less than perfect audio in spots).

Project Stock: 2013 Kawasaki KX450F
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Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and check it out on my 'puter!
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Put in the hands of a capable rider, I think any of the big 5 stock 450's could be taken to a top 20 finish at a national. Well, maybe not the Yamaha......lol jk
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bayodome wrote:
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F. One...
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F.

One of the reasons we did this was to challenge some of the rhetoric that often pops up on here that stock, or even modified, equipment can't compete against factory machinery. Take a look to see how it all went down (apologies in advance for some less than perfect audio in spots).

Project Stock: 2013 Kawasaki KX450F
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel handlebars on his bike.
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Not meaning to steal the thunder of your rider at all but Josh Greco raced most of the national series on a bone stock CRF450 and nearly scored points a few times. Unfortunately I can't find it now but there's a photo of him on RacerX that even shows the stock pipe.

http://www.racerxonline.com/2012/07/27/privateer-profile-josh-greco

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9/18/2012 6:46am
kardy wrote:
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and...
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and check it out on my 'puter!
Yeah, flash sucks. Same here.
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kardy wrote:
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and...
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and check it out on my 'puter!
"Orifice"? LaughingSmile
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bayodome wrote:
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F. One...
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F.

One of the reasons we did this was to challenge some of the rhetoric that often pops up on here that stock, or even modified, equipment can't compete against factory machinery. Take a look to see how it all went down (apologies in advance for some less than perfect audio in spots).

Project Stock: 2013 Kawasaki KX450F
forensic wrote:
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel...
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel handlebars on his bike.
That's bad ass! Have any pics? I'd love to see the steel bars lol
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bayodome wrote:
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F. One...
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F.

One of the reasons we did this was to challenge some of the rhetoric that often pops up on here that stock, or even modified, equipment can't compete against factory machinery. Take a look to see how it all went down (apologies in advance for some less than perfect audio in spots).

Project Stock: 2013 Kawasaki KX450F
forensic wrote:
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel...
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel handlebars on his bike.
That's excellent! I can't believe he didn't bend those things riding through the Millville whoops.

The point of this feature was not to steal any other riders thunder who may have done this in the past, but more so to document the experience. Stock bikes are definitely capable, but heresay only goes so far.
9/18/2012 8:54am
Flip109 wrote:
Put in the hands of a capable rider, I think any of the big 5 stock 450's could be taken to a top 20 finish at...
Put in the hands of a capable rider, I think any of the big 5 stock 450's could be taken to a top 20 finish at a national. Well, maybe not the Yamaha......lol jk
Agreed. Derek Anderson has been doing that all year long. His bike only has suspension and exhaust. He's even had a few top ten moto finishes and at Lake Elsinore almost yanked a holeshot from the outside.
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bayodome wrote:
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F. One...
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F.

One of the reasons we did this was to challenge some of the rhetoric that often pops up on here that stock, or even modified, equipment can't compete against factory machinery. Take a look to see how it all went down (apologies in advance for some less than perfect audio in spots).

Project Stock: 2013 Kawasaki KX450F
forensic wrote:
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel...
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel handlebars on his bike.
bayodome wrote:
That's excellent! I can't believe he didn't bend those things riding through the Millville whoops. The point of this feature was not to steal any other...
That's excellent! I can't believe he didn't bend those things riding through the Millville whoops.

The point of this feature was not to steal any other riders thunder who may have done this in the past, but more so to document the experience. Stock bikes are definitely capable, but heresay only goes so far.
Austin Phelps raced this summer on a leftover stock kx450:

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9/18/2012 11:21am Edited Date/Time 9/18/2012 2:54pm
Awesome stuff... this is why 450's should not go away. Buy a bike, slap some numbers on it, go ride a National!
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9/18/2012 11:25am Edited Date/Time 9/18/2012 11:25am
at Washougal 09 i was helping kiwi Luke Burkhart, he blew up his race bike in the first practice, so we pulled his practice bike out, bone stock done 70 odd hours practice, put a pipe and his suspension from the race bike in there, he went out and qualified top 20, and pulled a 4th place start in the first race, and getting points (17th i think), stock 450's are very competitive out of the box if you know how to ride them,
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bayodome wrote:
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F. One...
Shameless plug here. We had our test rider, Bryan Wallace, attempt qualifying in the 450 Class at Lake Elsinore aboard a mostly stock 2013 KX450F.

One of the reasons we did this was to challenge some of the rhetoric that often pops up on here that stock, or even modified, equipment can't compete against factory machinery. Take a look to see how it all went down (apologies in advance for some less than perfect audio in spots).

Project Stock: 2013 Kawasaki KX450F
forensic wrote:
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel...
In 2002 my brother raced the Millville national on a bone stock CRF450R and finished 21st in the second moto. he even had the stock steel handlebars on his bike.
Funny, I raced a stock CRF450(with revalve and White Bros. slip on) at Millville in '02 and finished 22nd right on the back wheel of the guy that got 21st in the 2nd moto.

If I remember correctly, we all(18th-22nd) finished within a few seconds of each other. I was pretty pissed at your brother and the guy he was right behind for stealing my points... LOL!

Oh, I had Pro-Tapers also. Wink
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kardy wrote:
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and...
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and check it out on my 'puter!
Such a bummer you bought a product that doesnt utilize the most widespread content player on the internet. This is whats wrong with america.....
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Fredrik Noren got 8th at washougal one moto and 9th the first moto at lake elsinore on a crf 450 with a yosh pipe and öhlins suspension.
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9/18/2012 1:23pm
word is that Wallace wadded hard at Milestone today on a 13 CRF450.
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kardy wrote:
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and...
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and check it out on my 'puter!
Braaap14 wrote:
Such a bummer you bought a product that doesnt utilize the most widespread content player on the internet. This is whats wrong with america.....
Oh whoa is me! Damn my trusty, bulletproof iPad! Damn it to hell!!
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SLAPAHO wrote:
word is that Wallace wadded hard at Milestone today on a 13 CRF450.
Si. Bayo's on the way to the hospital to check on him.
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kardy wrote:
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and...
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and check it out on my 'puter!
burn1986 wrote:
Yeah, flash sucks. Same here.
Yeah, we'll look for some two-stroke computer technology so that you can view it. Wink
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9/18/2012 1:57pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2012 1:58pm
SLAPAHO wrote:
word is that Wallace wadded hard at Milestone today on a 13 CRF450.
GuyB wrote:
Si. Bayo's on the way to the hospital to check on him.
That sucks! Hope he's ok and is back on the track soon!
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I'm not sure what all the fuss is about, I've owned plenty of stock bikes, attended hundreds of nationals, have no idea

what an IPAD is ( Is it for the ladies, you know....?) and I still haven't seen the princess' boobs.
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Yet even if all the guys at the Kawi team went over a new KX450 with a fine tooth comb Ryan Villopoto would die on it if he tried to race it. Read it right here on Vital. Even Gibby alluded to that as well. Of course Villo went on to crack his knee on the works bike....

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/If-RV-and-the-2012-KX450-…
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kardy wrote:
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and...
Such a bummer these features require Flash, which rules out using an iPad to view them. I'm way too lazy to walk into my orifice and check it out on my 'puter!
burn1986 wrote:
Yeah, flash sucks. Same here.
GuyB wrote:
Yeah, we'll look for some two-stroke computer technology so that you can view it. Wink
Come on Gibby, don't go turning this into a 2 vs 4 stroke thread. Laughing
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burn1986 wrote:
Yeah, flash sucks. Same here.
GuyB wrote:
Yeah, we'll look for some two-stroke computer technology so that you can view it. Wink
jock wrote:
Come on Gibby, don't go turning this into a 2 vs 4 stroke thread. Laughing
Like Gibby's signature says.....half as much, twice as good.
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newmann wrote:
Like Gibby's signature says.....half as much, twice as good.
LOL!
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9/18/2012 4:00pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2012 4:04pm
Ehum, did anyone notice the bike that Chris Blose was riding at rd11 or the very last, rd12 (cant really remember wich one it was.) Anyway, it was like a 5 year old crf450, with the old number plate design. I bet that a stock kxf450 is much better than that bike.

Edit: yeah it was at rd 11, steel city.
http://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Vital-MX-Pit-Bits-Steel-City,370…
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9/18/2012 4:21pm
SLAPAHO wrote:
word is that Wallace wadded hard at Milestone today on a 13 CRF450.
GuyB wrote:
Si. Bayo's on the way to the hospital to check on him.
Bryan is doing okay but has definitely had better days. Broken collarbone, fractured T6 and T4 (Had prior damage to T6 and T5), and a whole lot of bumps and bruises. I'll keep you posted.

He went over the bars on the back tabletop on the main track at Milestone. Biggest jump on the track. Wasn't pretty.
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9/18/2012 4:51pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2012 4:53pm
SLAPAHO wrote:
word is that Wallace wadded hard at Milestone today on a 13 CRF450.
GuyB wrote:
Si. Bayo's on the way to the hospital to check on him.
bayodome wrote:
Bryan is doing okay but has definitely had better days. Broken collarbone, fractured T6 and T4 (Had prior damage to T6 and T5), and a whole...
Bryan is doing okay but has definitely had better days. Broken collarbone, fractured T6 and T4 (Had prior damage to T6 and T5), and a whole lot of bumps and bruises. I'll keep you posted.

He went over the bars on the back tabletop on the main track at Milestone. Biggest jump on the track. Wasn't pretty.
a friend of mine saw it. said the front end just fell away mid-scrub over that table... like the bike stalled in the air from maybe hitting the back brake? glad to hear he'll be ok.....
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Yeah, that's not a good day at the office. Get well soon, Bryan.

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