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4/17/2018 1:42 PM

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maybe if they were busting people who were actually blood doping/using hgh/steroids...........
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4/17/2018 1:45 PM

lol!!

Maybe, just maybe, none of these top guys are doing anything like that?

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4/17/2018 1:48 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

lol!!

Maybe, just maybe, none of these top guys are doing anything like that?

not saying anyone is.....

just saying that the 2 people theyve busted so far havnt been busted for actual drug use......

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4/17/2018 1:52 PM

Watch some documentaries about it

They can't catch the good ones

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4/17/2018 1:59 PM

The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
-NOFX

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4/17/2018 2:08 PM

And another thing

Now that I know exactly what was going on in cycling in the late ninetys ,it actually predates lemond,thru say 2009 although it went on after that and still does with TUEs used to mask other drugs .

But it makes me wonder how prevalent it was in mx before the test for epo was developed.

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4/17/2018 2:19 PM

i say let them all juice up, let's see what these guys are capable of

James' quads from back in the day will like like single-to-tables

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4/17/2018 2:41 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/17/2018 2:47 PM

They catch some; Russians Olympic athletes..

Then let them compete anyway, just without their flag....

Makes no sense.

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4/17/2018 2:55 PM

Screw WADA & Everything with it, FIM TOO!!
WE DON’T NEED ‘EM.
NEVER HAVE.
SHORT SIGHTED THINKING BROUGHT ‘EM HERE & IT HASN’T BEEN WORTH THE BS.
WE, USA, NEED TO DO OUR OWN.
THE TIME IS NOW.
#ENDtheBULLSHIT

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4/17/2018 3:02 PM

Let them smoke all the Salvia they want. It will work itself out:



Go to about 1:08 in.
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4/17/2018 3:13 PM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

lol!!

Maybe, just maybe, none of these top guys are doing anything like that?

rmoto003 wrote:

not saying anyone is.....

just saying that the 2 people theyve busted so far havnt been busted for actual drug use......

Sorry if it came across like I was saying that's what you were trying to say. I was just saying maybe these guys aren't doing what so many think they are and that's why no ones been busted.

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4/17/2018 3:26 PM

rmoto003 wrote: Photo

maybe if they were busting people who were actually blood doping/using hgh/steroids...........

WADA has caught a lot of athletes using drugs to gain advantage. In MX/SX, they have caught a few who have used prohibited substances (Tickle), or not gotten appropriate permission to use otherwise prohibited substances (Stewart and Clason).

The questions should be:

- is the WADA list of prohibited substances the right one for MX/SX?
- are WADA prescribed penalties appropriate for MX/SX, particularly in light of how severe they are relative to penalties imposed for mechanical or on track rule violations?
- Where is the accountability on acknowledging receipt and acceptance or rejection of TUEs?

also, is anyone amazed that Jeff Alessi hasn't been back to Vital to say I told you so?

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4/17/2018 3:45 PM

ACBraap wrote:

WADA has caught a lot of athletes using drugs to gain advantage. In MX/SX, they have caught a few who have used prohibited substances (Tickle), or not gotten appropriate permission to use otherwise prohibited substances (Stewart and Clason).

The questions should be:

- is the WADA list of prohibited substances the right one for MX/SX?
- are WADA prescribed penalties appropriate for MX/SX, particularly in light of how severe they are relative to penalties imposed for mechanical or on track rule violations?
- Where is the accountability on acknowledging receipt and acceptance or rejection of TUEs?

also, is anyone amazed that Jeff Alessi hasn't been back to Vital to say I told you so?

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Copius pattern amounts of phrases like “Anyone have”..., “Anybody know?”.... and their variations.

Thoughts?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks in advance!





4/17/2018 4:35 PM

They did.
For example, Adderall is a scheduled drug.

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4/17/2018 9:08 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/17/2018 9:11 PM

Agreed. Here’s taking it to a whole new level of stupid (and they knew what was coming so they made sure to safely tuck away their bomgs).

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much ty. How to spot a paid forum poster/artificial forum traffic producer (see list of actions/phrases below):

Copius pattern amounts of phrases like “Anyone have”..., “Anybody know?”.... and their variations.

Thoughts?
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks in advance!





4/18/2018 4:53 AM

Funny.

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4/18/2018 5:14 AM

mattyhamz2 wrote:

lol!!

Maybe, just maybe, none of these top guys are doing anything like that?

I don't think our sport is that much different than any other, one can always hope though!

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4/18/2018 5:37 AM

Yea they have to get rid of wada

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4/18/2018 10:24 AM

From MXA

In 2001 Gert-Jan Van Doorn was suspended from racing for 18 months, while Andrea Bartolini got a 6-month ban. Both rider’s were fined, lost points and had to pay the FIM hearing costs. Bartolini’s sample contained nandrolone (anabolic steroid), while Van Doorn’s contains amfepramone (a derivative of amphetamine). Claudio Federici who was second in the 1999 125 World Championship failed a drug test for a metabolite of cocaine in 2002 and was suspended for 6-months. Josh Coppins tested six times over the limit for the stimulant pseudo-ephedrine, which he said he got from taking an over-the-counter hay fever tablet. Since ephedrine typically carries a 3-month ban, Coppins was given a 3-month ban, but it was suspended. But, he lost the points he earned at that race. Road racer Noriyuki Haga tested positive for Ephedrine in 2000 and received a one-month ban and had his points deducted. Haga lost 25 points during his ban and lost the WSBC to Colin Edwards. In November of 2013, MotoGP road racer Anthony West failed for methylhexaneamine (which he said he got from an energy drink). Originally, he got a one month ban from the FIM, but WADA appealed the decision and West was given an 18-month ban. In 2013, World Sidecar Cross competitor Lauris Daiders tested positive for the substance clenbuterol and got a 15-month ban. Want more? Back in 1975 an AMA rider named Ron Self told the AMA that his license application was “in the mail” and they let him race the Hangtown National. It turns out that Ron mailed the application to the AMA the day after Hangtown. They banned him from racing for 12 months! And that was for paperwork mistake.

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4/18/2018 11:16 AM

I'm not waiting for it. I hope it never happens. Imagine all the people that people seem to suspect of cheating get caught and banned from the sport...what's left?

If Aldon is helping his riders cheat and we suddenly lose Anderson, Musquin, and Osborne are we really gaining anything?

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4/18/2018 11:23 AM

tprice07 wrote:

I'm not waiting for it. I hope it never happens. Imagine all the people that people seem to suspect of cheating get caught and banned from the sport...what's left?

If Aldon is helping his riders cheat and we suddenly lose Anderson, Musquin, and Osborne are we really gaining anything?

If you cheat, you're rolling the dice. Look at all the drugs in MMA. They all have to roll the dice just for the weight cuts with at least a good 4 to 5 banned drugs.

Some are lethal and can literally cook you. But they use anyway because they work. How else do people think they can lose 40-50 lbs in a few days?



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4/18/2018 11:44 AM

All natural..Photo

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4/18/2018 12:00 PM

Seems they already have. They just need to get the penalties in order

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4/18/2018 12:36 PM

"Broc dindu nuffin". Dude took a banned substance and got caught. End of story.

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4/18/2018 1:23 PM

Paul333 wrote:

They catch some; Russians Olympic athletes..

Then let them compete anyway, just without their flag....

Makes no sense.

This

Just have Tickle become a Russian citizen, hell be on the start line by Hangtown

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4/18/2018 1:30 PM

Paul333 wrote:

They catch some; Russians Olympic athletes..

Then let them compete anyway, just without their flag....

Makes no sense.

BS only those who were not suspected and with a clean history were admitted to compete on personal title.
Striking every time a AMA rider get caught and suspended, Vital exploded and everybody hue and cry how wrong it is.
If you get caught because you using doping you're an asshole, if you get caught because of sportdrinks or something you're an amature.
The teams spend thousands of dollar on training under the guidance of personal trainers with balanced foodprograms and middle of the season a rider take the risk with a no name powerdrink? Come on.
It's well known that in the past many pro mxers used diet pills not because they had a fat ass.

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4/18/2018 1:57 PM

tprice07 wrote:

All natural..Photo

His muscles have muscles.

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4/18/2018 1:58 PM

gnarwhip wrote:

"Broc dindu nuffin". Dude took a banned substance and got caught. End of story.

Sweet. We caught someone. Let's give him the death penalty.

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4/18/2018 2:00 PM

tprice07 wrote:

All natural..Photo

IWreckALot wrote:

His muscles have muscles.

Haha my comment was more on his weight loss...though his recent actions lead me to believe he is on something.

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4/18/2018 2:01 PM

I'm all in favor of WADA minus them controlling the penalty. My opinion is they should be willing to test and publish results but fuck off with mandatory penalties. If FIM/AMA wants to penalize athletes differently than another professional athletic organization, it should be their right to do so.

WADA's "one size fits all" punishment system is horseshit. Further horseshit that their punishment system is designed around a sports system that competes once every 4 years.

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