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11/15/2018 5:17 PM

Finally gave in to my 2 stroke fever and so glad I did!
This is a fantastic track day and Vet bike. I had been riding a 2018.5 450 Factory Edition and figured the 150 would feel really slow but was shocked at the power and fun factor the first time I rode it!
I just sold my 450, it’s been gathering dust since the day I broke the 150 in. I kept it 2 months to be sure but there’s no way I’m leaving the 150 home when it’s Moto time!
I’ve hopped it up a bit with a FMF Factory Fatty, 2.1 silencer, Lectron carb(awesome), V Force 4 reeds and a RK Tek head.
Oh.... I put my beloved Cone Valve forks on before I ever rode it?

I’m a washed up 57 year old A/B Vet and feel like a lighter slower bike I can ride hard is way more fun than herding a 450 around. If, and I mean IF I ever go back to a 4 stroke, it will be a 250f.

This bike has really pumped up my fun factor both on the track and in the garage. It’s nice to be able to feel comfortable working on my bike again. Photo
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11/15/2018 5:27 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/15/2018 5:27 PM

Definitely noticing a trend with "can't believe how much fun I'm having!" among the big bore thumper ex-patriots...

Dude you did it right with the Lectron and CV forks... holy smokes that bike must be a hoot! I wanna hear it scream w00t cool

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Positively, absolutely 110% obsessed with anything MOTO.

11/15/2018 5:27 PM

Braapalicious.

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11/15/2018 5:38 PM

Awesome!!! Ear to ear grin no doubt when your screaming that 150, congrats!!!

Same here, age and riding ability. I bought a 2018 YZ250X two stroke version, as I wanted to do more off-roading.

Low and behold, I've sold my 450 with no thought of getting another one. My YZ250 has turned into my main moto scoot, and the fun factor is off the hook. Not to mention my speed is a tad faster, go figure.

Enjoy that bad ass 150 and give us some ride updates.

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11/15/2018 6:42 PM

Congrats on that fun machine Mike! Been riding a tc250 with cv’s and lectron for the last 2 years, been a blast. Enjoy!?

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11/15/2018 6:46 PM

Chalk another one up that " saw the light! "........Good job Mike! And believe me , I know exactly how you feel. What is so awesome about this is , trying to explain to someone , that when you hop on a 125 , 150 or 250 2 stroke......is that once you start to get them figured out and have fun , you literally feel 20 years younger! ( Not kidding to the dude's who don't know! ). And guess what happens when your having fun on a bike? You tend to ride better! Another thing I can contest too.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

11/15/2018 6:49 PM

Btw....I've got some experimenting to do with this damn Mikuni on my 250 , but I'm not forgetting about a Lectron on my 250. I did the PWK / STIC mod conversion on my 125.....and it's night and day stronger every where. May go that route on the 250 too , but then again , may try the Lectron. Just don't know anything about them.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

11/15/2018 7:07 PM

Old guys and small bores... welcome aboard!

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11/15/2018 7:08 PM

jeffro503 wrote:

Btw....I've got some experimenting to do with this damn Mikuni on my 250 , but I'm not forgetting about a Lectron on my 250. I did the PWK / STIC mod conversion on my 125.....and it's night and day stronger every where. May go that route on the 250 too , but then again , may try the Lectron. Just don't know anything about them.

Skip the Lectron... if you must experiment, go Smart Carb.

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11/15/2018 7:10 PM

Man thats doing it right with that set up , AWSOME

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11/15/2018 8:11 PM

Ring ding w00t

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11/15/2018 8:31 PM

jeffro503 wrote:

Btw....I've got some experimenting to do with this damn Mikuni on my 250 , but I'm not forgetting about a Lectron on my 250. I did the PWK / STIC mod conversion on my 125.....and it's night and day stronger every where. May go that route on the 250 too , but then again , may try the Lectron. Just don't know anything about them.

BR8ES wrote:

Skip the Lectron... if you must experiment, go Smart Carb.

Always wondered whats the difference or selling points of each carb?

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11/15/2018 9:04 PM

I'm 44 and buying a 150sx was the best decision I made. If anyone is on the fence about going to a small bore smoker from a 450, do it. The modern 125's and especially the 150 aren't the bog-o-matic peaky motors of the '80's and '90's. They are impressive! If you are on the fence, do what you can to take a few laps on a newer orange 125 or 150sx. I'm glad I did!

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11/15/2018 9:11 PM

jeffro503 wrote:

Btw....I've got some experimenting to do with this damn Mikuni on my 250 , but I'm not forgetting about a Lectron on my 250. I did the PWK / STIC mod conversion on my 125.....and it's night and day stronger every where. May go that route on the 250 too , but then again , may try the Lectron. Just don't know anything about them.

BR8ES wrote:

Skip the Lectron... if you must experiment, go Smart Carb.

Talisker wrote:

Always wondered whats the difference or selling points of each carb?

I'd like to know that too. I don't know much , if anything about either one of them. I have read on here from a lot of guys who were really impressed by the Lectron's. Honestly , I know the Mikuni " can be " a great carb when jetted right , but my main problem is that they are so sensitive. My PWK is pretty bullet proof , and it need's no jetting changes from about 45 - 95 degree's. The little it needs in between can be fixed with air screw adjustment's. Below 45 she seem's a bit lean , and after about 90-95 degree's it seems to run a bit fat. The Mikuni?......I have to rejet that damn thing any time it changes 15 degree's. Becomes a pain in the ass.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

11/16/2018 2:15 AM

I had a lectron on my 250sx. I liked it initially but could never get it perfect. It wasn’t as set and forget as I thought it would be. I ended up taking it off and putting Keihin back on with jd kit. I much preferred the jd combo as I thought the lectron was too flat power wise. It was smooth but there was no snap anymore and buddies who rode my bike weren’t huge fans of that either. Overall it may be ok if you are changing thousands of feet in elevation during a weekend but if you ride mx and the elevation and temp stays relatively stable a keihin with proper jetting is another thing to look at.

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11/16/2018 2:26 AM

Dude nice bike!
I’ve been on my hotted up Honda 125 for months now. Did a ktm test day and am getting a 350 to go with it. Loved the kato 125 and was dead set on a 150sx but the 350 impressed me most and changed my mind.
Perfect world I’d have a 150sx and 350sxf.
450 are going the way of the 500 class I think.

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11/16/2018 5:49 AM

BR8ES wrote:

Skip the Lectron... if you must experiment, go Smart Carb.

Talisker wrote:

Always wondered whats the difference or selling points of each carb?

jeffro503 wrote:

I'd like to know that too. I don't know much , if anything about either one of them. I have read on here from a lot of guys who were really impressed by the Lectron's. Honestly , I know the Mikuni " can be " a great carb when jetted right , but my main problem is that they are so sensitive. My PWK is pretty bullet proof , and it need's no jetting changes from about 45 - 95 degree's. The little it needs in between can be fixed with air screw adjustment's. Below 45 she seem's a bit lean , and after about 90-95 degree's it seems to run a bit fat. The Mikuni?......I have to rejet that damn thing any time it changes 15 degree's. Becomes a pain in the ass.

Fully external adjustments for one, better made and just more modern. I have had them all.

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11/16/2018 7:24 AM

Talisker wrote:

Always wondered whats the difference or selling points of each carb?

jeffro503 wrote:

I'd like to know that too. I don't know much , if anything about either one of them. I have read on here from a lot of guys who were really impressed by the Lectron's. Honestly , I know the Mikuni " can be " a great carb when jetted right , but my main problem is that they are so sensitive. My PWK is pretty bullet proof , and it need's no jetting changes from about 45 - 95 degree's. The little it needs in between can be fixed with air screw adjustment's. Below 45 she seem's a bit lean , and after about 90-95 degree's it seems to run a bit fat. The Mikuni?......I have to rejet that damn thing any time it changes 15 degree's. Becomes a pain in the ass.

BR8ES wrote:

Fully external adjustments for one, better made and just more modern. I have had them all.

What one do you prefer or recommend?

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11/16/2018 9:39 AM

jeffro503 wrote:

Btw....I've got some experimenting to do with this damn Mikuni on my 250 , but I'm not forgetting about a Lectron on my 250. I did the PWK / STIC mod conversion on my 125.....and it's night and day stronger every where. May go that route on the 250 too , but then again , may try the Lectron. Just don't know anything about them.

If you run mainly moto and don't care about fuel economy than PWK/STIC is the route to go on your 250 also. Some love the lectron though.

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11/16/2018 9:46 AM

jeffro503 wrote:

I'd like to know that too. I don't know much , if anything about either one of them. I have read on here from a lot of guys who were really impressed by the Lectron's. Honestly , I know the Mikuni " can be " a great carb when jetted right , but my main problem is that they are so sensitive. My PWK is pretty bullet proof , and it need's no jetting changes from about 45 - 95 degree's. The little it needs in between can be fixed with air screw adjustment's. Below 45 she seem's a bit lean , and after about 90-95 degree's it seems to run a bit fat. The Mikuni?......I have to rejet that damn thing any time it changes 15 degree's. Becomes a pain in the ass.

BR8ES wrote:

Fully external adjustments for one, better made and just more modern. I have had them all.

Talisker wrote:

What one do you prefer or recommend?

I've tried them all. PWK with the STIC metering system produces the most power hands down. It also is set it and forget it unless you are talking 50+ degree temperature swings. even then it's a needle clip or main jet adjustment which takes 5 minutes.

Smart Carb was never perfect, always close but never there. I would click until the cows came home and it never was right. Also made the bottom end soft.

Lectron had many of the same issues as the SmartCarb with an added occasional bog that would come out of nowhere. Not the safest thing on an MX track.

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11/16/2018 9:55 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/16/2018 9:58 AM

Congrats bro. Those fmf 2.1 pipes are sweet. Loving the forks to. How do you like the lectron carb?

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11/16/2018 11:01 AM

Congrats! My buddy has the same bike Lectron and all. Its the best small bore I've ever ridden!

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Race Bike: 2018 KTM 350SXF

Other Bikes: 1985 CR80R, 1990 CR250R, 1998 PW80, Specialized Fuse Comp 29.

Sold: 2016 YZ250F, 2012 CRF250R

11/16/2018 12:07 PM

Congratulations Mike... I don’t know if you remember me from my heading, but I used to see you and Ol Man Jack a lot at the track.

Where do you usually ride? My daughter lives in Bentonville, and I fly for one of the many poultry producers out of Springdale, so I’m down that way a lot. We neeed to get together for lunch sometime.

Greg Wormington

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11/16/2018 12:33 PM

jeffro503 wrote:

I'd like to know that too. I don't know much , if anything about either one of them. I have read on here from a lot of guys who were really impressed by the Lectron's. Honestly , I know the Mikuni " can be " a great carb when jetted right , but my main problem is that they are so sensitive. My PWK is pretty bullet proof , and it need's no jetting changes from about 45 - 95 degree's. The little it needs in between can be fixed with air screw adjustment's. Below 45 she seem's a bit lean , and after about 90-95 degree's it seems to run a bit fat. The Mikuni?......I have to rejet that damn thing any time it changes 15 degree's. Becomes a pain in the ass.

BR8ES wrote:

Fully external adjustments for one, better made and just more modern. I have had them all.

Talisker wrote:

What one do you prefer or recommend?

Smart Carb all the way.

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11/16/2018 1:01 PM

Congrats on the fun and nice ride.

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11/16/2018 4:44 PM

EHink450 wrote:

Congrats bro. Those fmf 2.1 pipes are sweet. Loving the forks to. How do you like the lectron carb?

it's a well made carb and pretty easy to adjust, the mid-top especially. It's night and day better than the stock Mikuni,.which i saw right away was gonna need constant adjustment unless the temp was about the same each weekend.

I'm still learning how to quickly fine tune it. My goal is to get a feel of the correct setting depending on temp and humidity etc before i go to the track if there is a huge change from one weekend to the next. I can say for sure that the entire power range is crisp and strong when its right, and its pretty easy to get it right once you think like the Lectron guys.

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11/16/2018 4:49 PM

BR8ES wrote:

Fully external adjustments for one, better made and just more modern. I have had them all.

Talisker wrote:

What one do you prefer or recommend?

BR8ES wrote:

Smart Carb all the way.

If my 150 had come with a Kehin I probably wouldn't have gone with the Lectron. The Mikuni is a pain and waters down the fun factor

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11/16/2018 4:53 PM

Gworm wrote:

Congratulations Mike... I don’t know if you remember me from my heading, but I used to see you and Ol Man Jack a lot at the track.

Where do you usually ride? My daughter lives in Bentonville, and I fly for one of the many poultry producers out of Springdale, so I’m down that way a lot. We neeed to get together for lunch sometime.

Greg Wormington

Heck yeah I remember you Greg! It would be great seeing you again! My cell # is 479-721-8004, looking forward to catching up.

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11/16/2018 4:59 PM

jeffro503 wrote:

Btw....I've got some experimenting to do with this damn Mikuni on my 250 , but I'm not forgetting about a Lectron on my 250. I did the PWK / STIC mod conversion on my 125.....and it's night and day stronger every where. May go that route on the 250 too , but then again , may try the Lectron. Just don't know anything about them.

BR8ES wrote:

Skip the Lectron... if you must experiment, go Smart Carb.

BR8ES I've heard the exact opposite about the Smart Carb too. Personally I think a PWK would have been great for motocross but they get pricey along with a JD jet kit or the STIC mod.

I chose the Lectron mostly because Of watching Shelby Pagett's Vital MX Utube videos. He is really pumped on them. I'm sure his was free though lol!

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11/16/2018 5:01 PM

Duncster316 wrote:

Congrats on that fun machine Mike! Been riding a tc250 with cv’s and lectron for the last 2 years, been a blast. Enjoy!?

Heck yeah!

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