Spoke with my wallet. 17 TC250 smoker

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11/30/2017 8:46 AM

Hi everybody. So i just bought a 2017 TC250. Been nice enough to ride a couple 17 250 sx both bone stock and with a pipe silencer and a little motor work. Both were great and confidence inspiring. Beyond excited to really ride it and race it this year !!! Im a smaller guy so the overall smaller and more nimble chassis is something i really appreciate as well as the smoother power delivery and lack of vibration thanks to the counterbalancer. The air forks are great too. Really smoothes your riding style out when riding i believe. I will make a build on it if i decide to really build it up. Right off the bat im putting a 36mm Keihn off a 15 250sx i have laying around along with the nice Domino throttle assembly and cable. Not a fan of the mikuni or throttle housing it comes with really. Using a 36mm for better responce. Next would be Vforce4 reedcage PC silencer ( not sure if ill do a factory sound or a R304R) and a mx glide plate to start with. To anybody that has a 17 or newer 250sx or TC250 id like to see some pics of your bikes and hear some ride reports of any mods you may have done. Thanks !

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11/30/2017 8:49 AM

Congrats! gotta love a freshie.

Ride crazy and take chances!

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11/30/2017 8:53 AM

Here's a pic of it ! Gonna ride it this weekend bone stock and break it in.Photo

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11/30/2017 8:55 AM

Best looking bikes from the factory right now. Congrats!

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Race Bike: 2018 KTM 350SXF

Other Bikes: 1985 CR80R, 1990 CR250R, 1998 PW80, Specialized Fuse Comp 29.

Sold: 2016 YZ250F, 2012 CRF250R

11/30/2017 8:59 AM

Here's my 14 TC250 that I had to trade in to get it. Been a great bike and I'll miss it's aggressive raw power but time for a change. Gonna fit as much of my 14's aftermarket and husky blind to my 17 too.
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11/30/2017 9:38 AM

braaap707 wrote:

Here's a pic of it ! Gonna ride it this weekend bone stock and break it in.Photo

Oh man...congrats!! Exact same bike I'm getting in the spring. I can't wait!

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11/30/2017 9:40 AM

I think the pipe should fit? Let us know, thanks

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11/30/2017 11:02 AM

factory 304 works better than the r-304...way more over-rev.
My brother lives in Charlton, I'm in Boston, where do you ride?

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11/30/2017 11:05 AM

I wouldn't swap carbs...the TMX is fine and works better than Keihin if you mess with it. I pulled out the stock 4.0 slide and put in a 5.0 and I'm right on the cusp of having the jetting sorting out. I have a thread where I am sharing all my findings. The throttle response is hampered by bad jetting, not the carb itself.

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11/30/2017 11:20 AM

Congrats! The motor new motor and chassis are what really shine on these machines. I didn't realize the vibration factor was so high until I rode mine (and confirmed when riding anything else not counter balanced) Amazing machines. Certainly KTM/Husky swayed me to the dark side. I've got the XC-W model, taboo in these parts I know. I've put a skid plate on it and that's it. My carb is just fine. Haven't even made a single adjustment. Maybe because I'm near sea level? Great choice, enjoy!! Pic below is from my second time out on it (2017 250 XC-W)



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11/30/2017 11:29 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/30/2017 11:30 AM

Congrats! Here’s my pumpkin. Best bikes eva!

Bud Racing/HGS exhaust, Vforce 4R, a60/FasterUSA wheels, fasst co rear brake spring, P3 carbon skid plate, jetting changes.

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11/30/2017 11:32 AM

Welcome to the club Photo

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11/30/2017 12:06 PM

Thanks everyone. Super excited to ride it this weekend and really get a good feeling for it. I'm sure the mikuni is a good carb but I've had shitty luck with them on certain bikes ( 03 cr250 ) and had ones that been great ( 03 kx125& 04 kx250). Overall I like the keihns more as it's what I'm familiar with and I feel they're less sensitive to these crazy temperature changes we get here but I'm open to hear ppl out who have got them to work.

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11/30/2017 12:10 PM

braaap707 wrote:

Thanks everyone. Super excited to ride it this weekend and really get a good feeling for it. I'm sure the mikuni is a good carb but I've had shitty luck with them on certain bikes ( 03 cr250 ) and had ones that been great ( 03 kx125& 04 kx250). Overall I like the keihns more as it's what I'm familiar with and I feel they're less sensitive to these crazy temperature changes we get here but I'm open to hear ppl out who have got them to work.

The 03 CR250 had the flat side TMX. The 03 up KX's have the radial slide TMX as does your new Husky. Much better carb and the reason you had good luck on the KX's but not the CR's.

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11/30/2017 12:16 PM

opyguy wrote:

factory 304 works better than the r-304...way more over-rev.
My brother lives in Charlton, I'm in Boston, where do you ride?

I have a bills shorty on my 14 tc and a pc factory sound on my 15 250sx. I do like the longer factory sound a little more. No shit that's cool. I race nesc and I ride all the local places. MX23 is my favorite local track as he's up the street from me and it's kinda SX ish with jumps everywhere. Keeps my on my toes. Also go to NHMX which is just awesome. Crow hill is a fun time and I go to wareham too. Rocky hill ct was one of my if not favorite track and I'm super bummed that Tony closed cause the town a holes calling cops on him all the time for noise complaints. But he made NHMX awesome so can't complain I guess.

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11/30/2017 4:52 PM

Congrats!!! you are going to have a blast with this bike

HVA Hardparts FMF Fatty/Powercore2.1 Ti/V Force 4/Shock re-sprung /stock valving front and rear/Acerbis frame guards/Roost MX graphics
Kehin 36 mm . Mikuni can run OK with OEM jets/needle or JD kit but wayyy too inconsistent to my taste
Dialed in the Keihin within 2 rides and never touched it since. Can't say that about the TMX
96 unleaded / Maxima K2 50:1
Stock PV spring 1-1/2 turns in
Going to try a flywheel weight soon

Love the AER, first time in 8 years I have not revalved a bike!

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11/30/2017 8:10 PM

mxstate wrote:

Congrats!!! you are going to have a blast with this bike

HVA Hardparts FMF Fatty/Powercore2.1 Ti/V Force 4/Shock re-sprung /stock valving front and rear/Acerbis frame guards/Roost MX graphics
Kehin 36 mm . Mikuni can run OK with OEM jets/needle or JD kit but wayyy too inconsistent to my taste
Dialed in the Keihin within 2 rides and never touched it since. Can't say that about the TMX
96 unleaded / Maxima K2 50:1
Stock PV spring 1-1/2 turns in
Going to try a flywheel weight soon

Love the AER, first time in 8 years I have not revalved a bike!

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Thanks. Im gonna do a 36mm keihn too. Thought it was a great easy to use carb on my 250sx and feeling like it'll give it some much needed snap. What do you think of that new fmf 2.1 ? More linear power ?

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11/30/2017 8:17 PM

braaap707 wrote:

Here's a pic of it ! Gonna ride it this weekend bone stock and break it in.Photo

That bike is beautiful! I havent ridden in 5 years and I'm thinking about getting back into it with one of these. I'd like to hear what you think of it after you ride it.

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11/30/2017 8:23 PM

sdhuskyrider wrote:

The 03 CR250 had the flat side TMX. The 03 up KX's have the radial slide TMX as does your new Husky. Much better carb and the reason you had good luck on the KX's but not the CR's.

Ahh I didn't know about that. I read up on ur jetting solutions . Good information and I'll try a different slide this weekend. I've been playing with these keihn carbs on new ktm and husky since 13 and they've always needed help too.

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11/30/2017 8:39 PM

braaap707 wrote:

Thanks everyone. Super excited to ride it this weekend and really get a good feeling for it. I'm sure the mikuni is a good carb but I've had shitty luck with them on certain bikes ( 03 cr250 ) and had ones that been great ( 03 kx125& 04 kx250). Overall I like the keihns more as it's what I'm familiar with and I feel they're less sensitive to these crazy temperature changes we get here but I'm open to hear ppl out who have got them to work.

sdhuskyrider wrote:

The 03 CR250 had the flat side TMX. The 03 up KX's have the radial slide TMX as does your new Husky. Much better carb and the reason you had good luck on the KX's but not the CR's.

braaap707 wrote:

Ahh I didn't know about that. I read up on ur jetting solutions . Good information and I'll try a different slide this weekend. I've been playing with these keihn carbs on new ktm and husky since 13 and they've always needed help too.

Yea keep an eye on that thread for an update Saturday evening. I think once I go to a 37.5 pilot it's going to be absolutely perfect for my climate and elevation. And I'll keep messing with it of course and see if it can get better.

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11/30/2017 8:39 PM

mxstate wrote:

Congrats!!! you are going to have a blast with this bike

HVA Hardparts FMF Fatty/Powercore2.1 Ti/V Force 4/Shock re-sprung /stock valving front and rear/Acerbis frame guards/Roost MX graphics
Kehin 36 mm . Mikuni can run OK with OEM jets/needle or JD kit but wayyy too inconsistent to my taste
Dialed in the Keihin within 2 rides and never touched it since. Can't say that about the TMX
96 unleaded / Maxima K2 50:1
Stock PV spring 1-1/2 turns in
Going to try a flywheel weight soon

Love the AER, first time in 8 years I have not revalved a bike!

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Nice bike man,. What keihin carb did you use?

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11/30/2017 8:40 PM

I think a lot of the jetting problems were due to the reed valve problems. I tried everything but it wasn't until I replaced the reeds and sanded down the reed block that i was able to dial it in. I have the jd kit and am fmf on mine. The jd gave the bike more of a hit which I wanted since it was a little too smooth for me. For the suspension you'll want to slow the rebound down quite a bit up front, but once you dial it in it's really good stock. It's an awesome bike.

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11/30/2017 8:46 PM

Deetsmx wrote:

I think a lot of the jetting problems were due to the reed valve problems. I tried everything but it wasn't until I replaced the reeds and sanded down the reed block that i was able to dial it in. I have the jd kit and am fmf on mine. The jd gave the bike more of a hit which I wanted since it was a little too smooth for me. For the suspension you'll want to slow the rebound down quite a bit up front, but once you dial it in it's really good stock. It's an awesome bike.

My reeds weren't sealing well so my dealer bought me a VForce 4 reed cage. It made almost no difference in my experience. It did start easier though. Swapping to a leaner slide is what made the difference for me.

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11/30/2017 8:55 PM

Bone stock rips Photo

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12/1/2017 5:09 AM

Does your 17 come with the map switch? If not, you can purchase it. I believe the 18's have it on already. You can switch maps on the fly. I found for tighter tracks the less aggressive map works awesome. Sand/Open tracks let her rip on the other map.

If you want to test the maps before buying the switch, just unplug the white connector under your tank by the petcock, this will put the bike in the less aggressive map.

Congrats on the bike! With the lack of vibration, it will really add to the longevity of the bike. My 13 250sx would eat its self alive, the vibration spit out bolts, any plastic that touch any thing else would literally cut deep grooves. I had to actually weld sections of my sub frame to replace material the plastics vibrated off. Crazy Fast though.

I have a 17 250sx btw. I'm running:
Pro Circuit exhaust
Vforce 4
Cut head to .045 squish
110 CAM2 fuel 40:1 amsoil dominator
JD Jet kit
18 Husky map switch

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12/1/2017 5:46 AM

congrats! Man, they look so good. Honestly, one of the best looking stock 2 strokes ever produced in my opinion

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12/1/2017 6:01 AM

mxb2 wrote:

Nice bike man,. What keihin carb did you use?

PWK AG short body (with top cover held by 2 screws, not the AS model (round/threaded cap)
(was stock on 16 and previous years)
Can re-use stock cable. Some complain about a stiffer pull with the 18 throttle tube but I'm ok with 17 OEM

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12/1/2017 6:12 AM

sdhuskyrider wrote:

My reeds weren't sealing well so my dealer bought me a VForce 4 reed cage. It made almost no difference in my experience. It did start easier though. Swapping to a leaner slide is what made the difference for me.

Same here.
I got all wrapped up into the reed petals gaps drama, but after lots of testing and swap between stock/ stock with aftermarket petals/V force 4 it did not changed the jetting issues.
In fact my V Force shows two slights gaps...

The Keihin has been "set and forget", when the Mikuni needed major adjustments upon temp/humidity level changes (and I'm always riding at sea level). Could never adjust only with the AS. I'd have to mess with the needle clip or jets.

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12/1/2017 6:15 AM

Deetsmx wrote:

I think a lot of the jetting problems were due to the reed valve problems. I tried everything but it wasn't until I replaced the reeds and sanded down the reed block that i was able to dial it in. I have the jd kit and am fmf on mine. The jd gave the bike more of a hit which I wanted since it was a little too smooth for me. For the suspension you'll want to slow the rebound down quite a bit up front, but once you dial it in it's really good stock. It's an awesome bike.

sdhuskyrider wrote:

My reeds weren't sealing well so my dealer bought me a VForce 4 reed cage. It made almost no difference in my experience. It did start easier though. Swapping to a leaner slide is what made the difference for me.

mxstate wrote:

Same here.
I got all wrapped up into the reed petals gaps drama, but after lots of testing and swap between stock/ stock with aftermarket petals/V force 4 it did not changed the jetting issues.
In fact my V Force shows two slights gaps...

The Keihin has been "set and forget", when the Mikuni needed major adjustments upon temp/humidity level changes (and I'm always riding at sea level). Could never adjust only with the AS. I'd have to mess with the needle clip or jets.

On the PWK, did you stick with the 42pilot 170main Suzuki NECJ needle?

That setup ripped on the previous motor.

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12/1/2017 6:22 AM

braaap707 wrote:

Thanks. Im gonna do a 36mm keihn too. Thought it was a great easy to use carb on my 250sx and feeling like it'll give it some much needed snap. What do you think of that new fmf 2.1 ? More linear power ?

I think the FMF pipe made more difference in the power delivery than the silencer. Smoother.

You need to play with the PV springs rates and pre-load too.
This can really affect how the power is delivered
I always try one change at a time because between jetting/PV settings/exhaust combo, it's pretty easy to get quickly lost

I did not bother much for the ignition maps though (i don't have the switch just plug/unplug the white connector under the tank)

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