Spoke with my wallet

Steely Dan
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8/15/2016 11:11am
and it said Husqvarna TC250

Here's the run down.

Jetting on 110 leaded (Cam2) with synth premix 40:1, sea-level ~85 deg F. (stock)
420MJ (440)
37.5PJ (42.5)
43-73 needle 1st clip (43-73 3rd clip)
Airscrew 2-2.5turns out (2 turns)

I ran out of needle. I'm on the leanest needle, top clip. Need a leaner needle. The diameter/profile is right, but I need a longer needle so I can drop to the 2nd of 3rd clip. For all intents and purposes however, it's as close to EFI as youre going to get with a carb. I am going to experiment with nozzles. I believe the nozzle itself is too rich, and by dropping down one size, the low rpm fueling issues could be eliminated. Similar situation to the TMX-equipped Hondas. If the nozzle ends up working out, i'll probably have to go up one size on the main and PJ to compensate.

Suspension 180lb vet expert
Forks
21C 19R 147psi for smoother tracks, 144 when it's beat up. Tried leaving air pressure the same and dropping the comp, but that made it ride a little lower in the stroke, which I hate. so I left the comp alone and adjusted with the air pressure itself. Used nitrogen.

Shock
HSC: 1.5 turns out
LSC: 10out
Reb: 14
sag: 104
Shock is too soft for me, i'll probably end up going up one spring size.

Was shooting for 105-108 sag, but it wasn't tankslapping at 104 so I left it. The suspension on these is going to be funny for the next few months, because if im not mistaken the KTM and Husky have different valving and specs, and most people assume theyre the same, which throws the clicker settings way off between the two.

I went to a G2 ergonomics throttle, and all they had for me was a prototype. KTM/Husky went to basically a shitty fourstroke style throttle housing on these (without a return cable). The hot set up going forward, is going to be a Domino throttle off a 2016, with a custom cable for the TMX Mikuni.

I also went to a Midwest mountain engineering "clever lever" which is a MUST for anyone with a hydro clutch, regardless of the bike. it adds another pivot where the mechanism that actually engages the master cyl is, rather than just having one pivot. adding a fulcrum reduces effort by 50%, technically speaking. actuality in this case is about 25%, which on a KTM/Husky makes pulling the clutch on par with pulling a bicycle brake. theres just so little effort.

Will have the HGS/Bud racing pipe and HGS silencer tomorrow which is supposed to address the lack of over-rev.

it's not a firebreathing monster by any means. It's fast, definitely faster than a stock YZ250. the suspension is what surprised me. it's really, really good for a stock bike. That whole "I'd get a ktm but the suspension sucks" is completely out of the window. Put it this way, its better than a Factory Connection PSF2.

The real take-away is that this thing is so smooth, that if you, or your kid are racing Am 250A/B/C, this is a 100% viable solution. it's almost as smooth as a 250F, infinitely lighter/lighter-feeling, and a whole lot faster. I ran mine with the soft powervalve spring, and the medium, and both are very rideable. This thing will lug a gear tall, and still carry the front wheel easily. very torquey, lots of rotational mass. there is a fairly big gap between 2nd and 3rd gear. I'm seeing MXA was saying drop a tooth on the rear and that's probably the solution.

oh, and the stock brake pedal is for midgets with size 5 feet. Not shocking considering Sleeter was the main development guy.



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Kevin_Reed
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8/15/2016 11:17am
Great first post Steely Dan!
Superdave19
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8/15/2016 11:22am
Great scoot Steely- Welcome, and wish this site had a scratch and sniff- 2 Smokes rule.
mxb2
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8/15/2016 1:05pm
Great choice, bike is sick.
HenryA
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8/15/2016 1:17pm
Lots of great info there. And Wow, sweet bike!

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newmann
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8/15/2016 1:26pm
Steely, what an honor. Been a fan forever.

Beautiful bike and loads of good info! Congrats on the new ride.
jarvinator
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8/15/2016 1:47pm
Could you tell us how tall you are and what you think about the ergos?
SWEET bike...this could be my upgrade from '13 250SX... Thx
Flip109
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8/15/2016 2:16pm
Please post the pic first next time please. Kept scrolling and scrolling. Laughing nice bike!
Steely Dan
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8/15/2016 2:19pm
jarvinator wrote:
Could you tell us how tall you are and what you think about the ergos?
SWEET bike...this could be my upgrade from '13 250SX... Thx
5'9".

The ergos. One word. Small. The bar that the Husky is spec'd with appears to be an RC (low) bend, virtually flat, or close to it. Much lower than the bar the KTM comes with. Not stamped with a "name", just a patent number, because it's a proprietary OEM bar. The Husky footpegs are mounted 10mm higher than the KTM. Or perhaps the mounts re the same and the pegs themselves have a 10mm higher pivot point because the Husky boys grabbed their KTM pegs out of the enduro bin. (I think that's what happened, actually )

The bars are also narrow. First thing I noticed. I've been riding with them because I've been more focused on jetting, which is a black art with a Mikuni. The ergos don't feel bad, but I tend to like smaller ergos, personally. But if I were 5'10" or taller I'd just put taller bars on it , versus buying the KTM.

The overall feel of the bike.. more flickable than a 07 CR125, easily. Such a nimble bike.

seth505
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8/15/2016 2:25pm
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
slipdog
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8/15/2016 2:43pm
Spotted you a mile away... just sayin' Tongue



2 days and counting for me...
swedishfishmx
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8/15/2016 2:46pm
Sweet bike, but that midwest lever is terrible. I know it offers are reduction in tension, but it has horrible feel. IMO, it's not worth it.

I really like the new design of the TC tho!

slipdog
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8/15/2016 3:57pm
Sweet bike, but that midwest lever is terrible. I know it offers are reduction in tension, but it has horrible feel. IMO, it's not worth it...
Sweet bike, but that midwest lever is terrible. I know it offers are reduction in tension, but it has horrible feel. IMO, it's not worth it.

I really like the new design of the TC tho!

What do you mean "feel". The pull feels terrible or the lever feels terrible.

I like feel of the shape of a works connection lever, but hate the way ASV levers feel.
reded
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8/15/2016 4:41pm
GAWT-DAMN that's a good looking motorcycle!
Steely Dan
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8/15/2016 5:00pm
Sweet bike, but that midwest lever is terrible. I know it offers are reduction in tension, but it has horrible feel. IMO, it's not worth it...
Sweet bike, but that midwest lever is terrible. I know it offers are reduction in tension, but it has horrible feel. IMO, it's not worth it.

I really like the new design of the TC tho!

For my particular master cyl it has a very distinct late 'pop' and I enjoy it. magura 2. Just had to swap places with the kill switch because of how short it is.
CrashMaster
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8/15/2016 5:46pm
I just love the look Husky's have.
mx836
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8/17/2016 4:14pm
So much better looking than it's orange counterpart. Congrats on the new steed!
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8/17/2016 4:46pm
There's a ton of talking wallets around here lately....
JW381
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8/17/2016 4:52pm
Got damn, this has me wanting one.
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8/17/2016 5:24pm
newmann wrote:
Steely, what an honor. Been a fan forever.

Beautiful bike and loads of good info! Congrats on the new ride.
Funny shit,!
How do we get tee shirt signed???
Ups??
OleTex
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8/17/2016 5:43pm
Nice bike man! Welcome too.
slipdog
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What number are you, Bro? I can't read the side plates...
Steely Dan
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8/17/2016 5:48pm
First stateside pipe/silencer

Steely Dan
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8/17/2016 5:50pm
slipdog wrote:
What number are you, Bro? I can't read the side plates...
It's pre-printed but 8" pro dirtdigits bro...like...90s and modern.
Steely Dan
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8/17/2016 5:51pm Edited Date/Time 8/17/2016 6:01pm
newmann wrote:
Steely, what an honor. Been a fan forever.

Beautiful bike and loads of good info! Congrats on the new ride.
MX4EVR wrote:
Funny shit,!
How do we get tee shirt signed???
Ups??
In the land of milk and honey, you must put them on the table.
Matt Fisher
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8/17/2016 6:14pm Edited Date/Time 8/17/2016 6:14pm
Steely Dan wrote:
5'9". The ergos. One word. Small. The bar that the Husky is spec'd with appears to be an RC (low) bend, virtually flat, or close to...
5'9".

The ergos. One word. Small. The bar that the Husky is spec'd with appears to be an RC (low) bend, virtually flat, or close to it. Much lower than the bar the KTM comes with. Not stamped with a "name", just a patent number, because it's a proprietary OEM bar. The Husky footpegs are mounted 10mm higher than the KTM. Or perhaps the mounts re the same and the pegs themselves have a 10mm higher pivot point because the Husky boys grabbed their KTM pegs out of the enduro bin. (I think that's what happened, actually )

The bars are also narrow. First thing I noticed. I've been riding with them because I've been more focused on jetting, which is a black art with a Mikuni. The ergos don't feel bad, but I tend to like smaller ergos, personally. But if I were 5'10" or taller I'd just put taller bars on it , versus buying the KTM.

The overall feel of the bike.. more flickable than a 07 CR125, easily. Such a nimble bike.

With the Mikuni jetting being a black art, are you considering moving to a Keihen in the future?

Congrats on the bike, btw!
slipdog
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8/17/2016 6:22pm
slipdog wrote:
What number are you, Bro? I can't read the side plates...
Steely Dan wrote:
It's pre-printed but 8" pro dirtdigits bro...like...90s and modern.

I get mine tomorrow and look what showed up in the mail today just in time to break her in!




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8/17/2016 6:23pm
I read that the TX 300 guys couldn't get the new carb figured out, looks like you've got a handle on it. Nice work!

Enjoy that beauty.
burn1986
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8/17/2016 6:33pm
Man, that bike is badness!! It was probably too much, but I'm glad the OP got it. There's still hope for us out there.
gsxr6
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8/17/2016 6:54pm
Until u have a pwk on it, back to back and the same day, and with the mikuni " dialed in" can u truly understand the difference. Borrow someone's 36mm from a 2015, or even better a 125 38mm. Wonder if they'll fit......

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