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Ok so I'm having a debate with a friend of mine about this whole Stewart thing. It's about one thing and one thing only.
The debate is.........I said it would be damn near impossible for James and his entire team to NOT know they would of had to file a TUE. With every single rider , team , ect that has their paper work in order.......how is it possible that James and his team didn't think they needed a TUE for his medication?
Lets say James didn't read the WADA agreement and just signed it ( I will give him that ). But what about all the pre-race meetings , other riders possibly using MED's with TUE';s , his entire team and family.......and using one of the top 5 banned substances on the planet........how in the holy hell could they NOT KNOW they needed to file?
My buddy said " Yeah but Josh Grant said it was hard to understand ". OK.....Trey's mom , Matthes and JT$ all pretty much said it's just basic knowledge.
Sorry for even bringing this up.........but seriously.....What are the odd's of a top level rider / team NOT knowing they didn't have to submit a TUE?
My answer is......Impossible. I don't believe it for one second. I'm glad he has it accepted now.....I'm talking the 1.5yrs he said he was taking it before the failed test.
Unless I hear some legitimate answers and not just some fanboyisim type stuff.......I can't see how I could change my mind.
The debate is.........I said it would be damn near impossible for James and his entire team to NOT know they would of had to file a TUE. With every single rider , team , ect that has their paper work in order.......how is it possible that James and his team didn't think they needed a TUE for his medication?
Lets say James didn't read the WADA agreement and just signed it ( I will give him that ). But what about all the pre-race meetings , other riders possibly using MED's with TUE';s , his entire team and family.......and using one of the top 5 banned substances on the planet........how in the holy hell could they NOT KNOW they needed to file?
My buddy said " Yeah but Josh Grant said it was hard to understand ". OK.....Trey's mom , Matthes and JT$ all pretty much said it's just basic knowledge.
Sorry for even bringing this up.........but seriously.....What are the odd's of a top level rider / team NOT knowing they didn't have to submit a TUE?
My answer is......Impossible. I don't believe it for one second. I'm glad he has it accepted now.....I'm talking the 1.5yrs he said he was taking it before the failed test.
Unless I hear some legitimate answers and not just some fanboyisim type stuff.......I can't see how I could change my mind.
The Shop
" Is it possible that the entire team , family and James himself.....had no clue he was supposed to file a TUE? "
Yes or no with an explanation would be great.
It was doomed from the word "sorry"- that always preempts something you shouldn't do..
From the movie Taken- "good luck"
In order to get the TUE he has now, he had to be approved by WADA's committee of phycisians. Meaning he knows he needs the medication. If he knew he needed to take the medication why not get the approved (TUE) before getting in trouble.
Clear case of negligence, unless like Grant said the rules are not clear enough.
But as the fanboys say it was all a big mistake just like the IV nurse !!
Throughout off of this, they have said he filed for and was granted a TUE. That means from the time he filed forward. He could have failed the test Sunday, saw a doc Monday, and filed the TUE Tuesday. Just because he was granted a TUE now means nothing about the legitimacy of the pre-test facts.
Not saying anything with the comment, but keep in mind a fellow named Dr. Anthony Bosch...... There are MANY unethical docs out there, and ADD is a patient diagnosed condition with no test to validate the condition.
Pit Row
You have to remember most of the responses towards this will be predictable, you've been on here long enough to know where nearly each person stands in ANY Stewart issue.
I did NOT want to start a thread like this.....just wanted the opinions on this one subject.
On a positive note, the thread responses so far here have been pretty well behaved. My hats off to you all.
Merry Christmas.
If he knows he needs the medication, why not get the TUE in advance of being tested and avoid getting in trouble?
Being the committee of physicians agreed he needs to be taking the medication.
It would be stupid to take the medication and know you could get in trouble, when you knew you could get approved for a TUE.
Also, I think James said he was embarrassed about the condition, maybe nobody in his camp knew he was taking the medication?
I do not get why people must create another thread when we can just keep a sticky one.
20 thread ... why not 20 pages in which we could at least prove everything has already been said.
I am just sorry for everybody involved in the adderalgate. We may or may not have all the information on what really happened, I think, even if it was a cover, the sanction is heavy considering JS7's talent, fans and age. I just hope we can see him ride SX again or soon because he is probably the best to watch.
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