Sorry Gypsy, but Jett not as talented as James Stewart

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B Lenny 9/17/2021 10:28am
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FARANG wrote:
Whilst their talent is comparable, Jett doesn't appear to be a flat track bully. He certainly isn't a drugs cheat. Unlike Stewart. So I'd go with...
Whilst their talent is comparable, Jett doesn't appear to be a flat track bully.

He certainly isn't a drugs cheat. Unlike Stewart.

So I'd go with Jett on this one.

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The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
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The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
Bullshit...


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Sorry, I don't go for the theory that James (or Ricky or Everts) only dominated people because they faced lesser competition. That's just foolish.

A series can be competitive if there is parity and none of the riders are transcendent.

Jett will probably have a nice Roczen like career with several titles. Can't wait to see his style work on a 450.
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brimx153 9/17/2021 11:15am
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Sorry, I don't go for the theory that James (or Ricky or Everts) only dominated people because they faced lesser competition. That's just foolish. A series...
Sorry, I don't go for the theory that James (or Ricky or Everts) only dominated people because they faced lesser competition. That's just foolish.

A series can be competitive if there is parity and none of the riders are transcendent.

Jett will probably have a nice Roczen like career with several titles. Can't wait to see his style work on a 450.
X2 100 % . RC and James made some amazing riders look ordinary, that s how good they were . The same goes for Everts. I often think if the USA got to see the Tortelli we did ,Everts would be held in higher regard speed wise . Him and Tortelli in 98 were insane fast and about as equal as u get . Its just Tortelli could not stay not injury free since 98 . He could of gave RC a run for a championship outdoors imo
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FARANG wrote:
Whilst their talent is comparable, Jett doesn't appear to be a flat track bully. He certainly isn't a drugs cheat. Unlike Stewart. So I'd go with...
Whilst their talent is comparable, Jett doesn't appear to be a flat track bully.

He certainly isn't a drugs cheat. Unlike Stewart.

So I'd go with Jett on this one.
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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
Yep.

Much stiffer competition from fully professional factory contracted, training farm kids.
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SilverSpurs wrote:
Yep.

Much stiffer competition from fully professional factory contracted, training farm kids.
Powdered donuts and sugar water buddy.
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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
SilverSpurs wrote:
Yep.

Much stiffer competition from fully professional factory contracted, training farm kids.
Stiffer? Than Reed, Langston and Brown? Or being a 125 vs a field of 250 four strokes?
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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
SilverSpurs wrote:
Yep.

Much stiffer competition from fully professional factory contracted, training farm kids.
Yeah the guys Bubba raced all starting racing as adults, and raced on the side. Come on bro…

Since the 90’s the top factory riders were raised from kids to race moto…with the possible exception of Dowd…they all raced from peewee to pro’s and did little else.

The only thing that has changed is now factory teams are signing them for their last year of amateurs and first two or so years as a pro…when back then they signed their factory contract after their last LL’s….but they were still on great equipment…because of social media, now you just see all the training the top amateurs do…when back then nobody saw it because there was no internet.
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And I’ll point out that we are now on page 6 of some people trying to convince other people that Jett is next level….

Nobody had to convince anyone else that Bubba was next level…we all just KNEW…so the fact that there is now 6 pages of arguing about Jett kind of proves that he’s not there yet.

For the all time greats, and game changers (like Bubba) there is no argument….everyone just recognized their greatness when they see it, no convincing required.
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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
SilverSpurs wrote:
Yep.

Much stiffer competition from fully professional factory contracted, training farm kids.
Your probably a little biased.
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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
SilverSpurs wrote:
Yep.

Much stiffer competition from fully professional factory contracted, training farm kids.

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Deadric wrote:
Stew was good but how people go around thinking he was the greatest thing since sliced bread is beyond me. He wasnt even the best rider...
Stew was good but how people go around thinking he was the greatest thing since sliced bread is beyond me. He wasnt even the best rider of his generation, I'd go as far as to say he wasn't even the second best of his generation.

Is he more talented than Jett? To early to tell in my opinion. Keeping a bike on two wheels is a great talent to have and James severely lacked in that department.
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I'll give you this you are an expert when it comes to saying stupid shit so you would know stupid when you see it. That said try and tell me Stew was better than RV and RD, I'll wait.
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Deadric wrote:
I'll give you this you are an expert when it comes to saying stupid shit so you would know stupid when you see it. That said...
I'll give you this you are an expert when it comes to saying stupid shit so you would know stupid when you see it. That said try and tell me Stew was better than RV and RD, I'll wait.
You are stupid as the day is long...Dungey had to end his career at A1 and he's spanked RV my times...Do they even mention those guy's in the same breath...Laughing
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Im Australian and can't stand the shit gypsy talks. Either talking about jujitsu or blowing smoke up everyone's ass
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Titan1 wrote:
And I’ll point out that we are now on page 6 of some people trying to convince other people that Jett is next level…. Nobody had...
And I’ll point out that we are now on page 6 of some people trying to convince other people that Jett is next level….

Nobody had to convince anyone else that Bubba was next level…we all just KNEW…so the fact that there is now 6 pages of arguing about Jett kind of proves that he’s not there yet.

For the all time greats, and game changers (like Bubba) there is no argument….everyone just recognized their greatness when they see it, no convincing required.

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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
SilverSpurs wrote:
Yep.

Much stiffer competition from fully professional factory contracted, training farm kids.
Except……

Remember when ‘you guys’ talked about how today’s US amateur system did such a horrible job of preparing young racers for their pro careers?

Which is it now?
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Deadric wrote:
Stew was good but how people go around thinking he was the greatest thing since sliced bread is beyond me. He wasnt even the best rider...
Stew was good but how people go around thinking he was the greatest thing since sliced bread is beyond me. He wasnt even the best rider of his generation, I'd go as far as to say he wasn't even the second best of his generation.

Is he more talented than Jett? To early to tell in my opinion. Keeping a bike on two wheels is a great talent to have and James severely lacked in that department.
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Deadric wrote:
I'll give you this you are an expert when it comes to saying stupid shit so you would know stupid when you see it. That said...
I'll give you this you are an expert when it comes to saying stupid shit so you would know stupid when you see it. That said try and tell me Stew was better than RV and RD, I'll wait.
As an RD fan it was pretty painful in 2012(?) when Stew was just fast enough to hold off Dungey each moto until he crashed at Thunder Valley.
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Holy shit not even close. James is the best rider to throw his leg over a “small bike” (125 or 250f) just as RC is the goat and smoked everts the sand master in his back yard. Don’t compare Jett to James yet….. Jett is good but come on, not the same level.I will be surprised if he wins both sx and mx next year whereas you knew James was winning.
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Holy shit not even close. James is the best rider to throw his leg over a “small bike” (125 or 250f) just as RC is the...
Holy shit not even close. James is the best rider to throw his leg over a “small bike” (125 or 250f) just as RC is the goat and smoked everts the sand master in his back yard. Don’t compare Jett to James yet….. Jett is good but come on, not the same level.I will be surprised if he wins both sx and mx next year whereas you knew James was winning.
Would anyone be completely shocked if Jett wins the next two titles in SX and outdoors? What about if Jett wins almost every race? What if Jett wins every moto next summer? Hey, it COULD happen, right?
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Stewart is 2nd all time in Supercross wins, only rider besides the goat to have an undefeated season. 1st all time in 125 outdoor wins…..No offense to Jett but it isn’t fair to compare him to James.
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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
You really think Cooper and Hampshire are faster than guys like Brown, Hepler, Reed, Hughes and Langston? That’s so cute.
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Jett has shown the ability to win from the front and from behind. He is one of the best passers I can recall. Ring a bell?
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brimx153 wrote:
The worst part of the whole take is that Jett is riding against stiffer competition than JS7 did .
UpTiTe wrote:
You really think Cooper and Hampshire are faster than guys like Brown, Hepler, Reed, Hughes and Langston? That’s so cute.
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Stewart is 2nd all time in Supercross wins, only rider besides the goat to have an undefeated season. 1st all time in 125 outdoor wins…..No offense...
Stewart is 2nd all time in Supercross wins, only rider besides the goat to have an undefeated season. 1st all time in 125 outdoor wins…..No offense to Jett but it isn’t fair to compare him to James.
When Jett goes undefeated in next years nationals can we begin to compare him to James?

Really though, Jett has patience. Bubba never had much patience did he?

Watching J-Mart ride out of his skull and Jett holding him off multiple times while looking under control impressed the hell out of me.
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My favorite battle of the season right here. The way Martin rails that outside berm near the end is unreal, but Jett manages to stay ahead of him somehow.

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JMart has the James-like throttle cable stretching, checkers or wreckers all out style.

If you were buying a used bike, would you buy one from JMart or Jett?
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SilverSpurs 9/17/2021 9:16pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
You really think Cooper and Hampshire are faster than guys like Brown, Hepler, Reed, Hughes and Langston? That’s so cute.
We'll never know the answer about those guys, so why bother asking?🤔

Did anyone come from behind and make a pass stick on Jett in the last 24 Motos?
J Mart broke bones trying to.
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