So who's thinking of swapping?

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8/31/2010 8:49 PM

From poppet valves to reed valves or vise versa or you're happy with what you got?
And a few points why you made/about to or thinking about making the switch? and are you buying new or 2nd hand?
would also so be good to hear how it's working out for you?

No need to argue witch one is better, we all have some idea what deal is with both, now it's a case of personal chioce.





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Any more than 2 strokes is a wank!

8/31/2010 9:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/31/2010 9:53 PM

I am just about to pull the trigger on a YZ 125. Gotta have one to go along with my YZ 250. Cant wait to ride a one dinger again.

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8/31/2010 9:19 PM

We have both

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9/1/2010 7:47 AM

Traded in my RMZ for a 2-stroke and haven't looked back. Good riddance.

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9/1/2010 7:48 AM

Sorry. Thought this was some crazy wife swap thread.

Please continue.

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9/1/2010 7:49 AM

Wrong forum!

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9/1/2010 7:54 AM

I have had the KX250 for a year now. Joey rides a KDX80, the only 4-stroke we have is the pitbike.

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9/1/2010 8:19 AM

I love my 450, however I want a CR125 2 smoke in my stable. 250 smoker, I'll pass.

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9/1/2010 8:57 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/1/2010 4:58 PM

I've been racing all sizes and brand bike for years. With the nudge of our sponsor, raced an RMZ450 for two years. Good bike.

Traded it even for a 250 2 stroke and also bought a 125. I have never had more fun racing and will never by another 4 stroke again.
All the same reasons you hear day in day out. cost, weight, fun factor, noise, handling, resale....

My biggest issue was weight/handling. The RMZ was a great handling bike as 450's go, but felt like a Tahoe compared to either YZ
in tight sections, turns, whoops, sand, mud and the occasional woods. I pull excellent starts now, always in the front few in the first
turn, and don't have to spend more time on maintenance than riding.

This same story applies to several in our group who I race with and have spent three times the normal budget in a year and decided
it is not a benefit to pay more to race a heavy bike. None of us have $30k to spend on titanium bolt kits like the factories do to get the
weight back down to a stock 2 stroke.

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9/1/2010 3:07 PM

Im getting ready to get my son a new YZ250. last year he was on 250Fs but after spending all our budget on repairing them we moved to a 450. Now he wants to go back to the 250 class and there is no way I will ever buy another 250F so we are going to get a smoker.

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9/1/2010 3:15 PM

Well considering my 4 stroke was trouble free for 4 years, which is extremely better than any 2 stroke I have ever had or known of. I'm going stay with the 4 stroke!

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4 strokes started this sport!

9/1/2010 3:19 PM

rode my buddys kx 250. holly turd. ill stick with my 450.

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9/1/2010 3:31 PM

I'm just waiting on the 2011 KTM 250SX to arrive, to go along with my 2001 KTM 125 which surprisingly keeps up with modern 250F's quite well.
The 250 2t is gonna be a steep learning curve though, as they are no where near as refined as a fuel injected 450F is.

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9/1/2010 3:40 PM

I'm gonna run a new KTM 150 hopefully @ November...

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9/1/2010 3:40 PM

i'm switching.

gonna put the new top end in my 450 that i've had for a while and get a new 250 stroker. maybe the ktm 300

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suck it

9/1/2010 3:45 PM

i think i will stay straight and hang with my wife!

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9/1/2010 3:46 PM

I switched to thumpers in 1990 when I bought a KTM lc4 600 mx. What a turd. I thought the thumper would mellow my right hand out a bit and stretch out the ER visits. It stretched my wallet and my patience. Bought a 96 rm 250 after that then a 2000 yz426 and lastly an 05 crf 450. Sold the 450 and my next ride will be a two stroke. No more thumpers for me.

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9/1/2010 3:48 PM

Ive always owned two strokes... rode a 250f and wasnt impressed . I want to ride a 450 before I make my final decision .

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9/1/2010 4:01 PM

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Ive always owned two strokes... rode a 250f and wasnt impressed . I want to ride a 450 before I make my final decision .

A 450F is a far nicer bike to ride than a 250F, but the weight and handling (mainly due to the weight) might get to you. Plus it's pretty boring to ride in comparison to a 250 2t but it is far easier to ride.

You definitely need some seat time on a 450F to make an informed decision.

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9/1/2010 4:12 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/1/2010 4:12 PM

I ride a YZ 250 2 stroke but have tried a YZ450 and KX 450 and have to say they are waaay easier to ride than the 2 stroke and not as tiring.

I've never had a 4 stroke and am thinking about getting one , my main concern is , as far as I understand it, they are completely worthless when selling time comes ??

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I've been here 17 years , am I still English, man ???

9/1/2010 4:13 PM

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We dont need no stinkin' valves....
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9/1/2010 4:15 PM

I never understood the "easy to ride" thing. kinda seems like buying a corvette with an automatic tranny in it. I want to shift gears. I want to have to work the clutch. Restore your manhood...buy a 2 stroke.

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9/1/2010 4:46 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/1/2010 4:48 PM

racerj313 wrote:

I never understood the "easy to ride" thing. kinda seems like buying a corvette with an automatic tranny in it. I want to ...more

Yeah whats easy about a bike thats too heavy ,handles bad and wont turn?
I had a ride on a demo 350sx,now I'm a one eyed 2 stroke fan I was a little bit worried about how good it would be after hearing all the hype but what tank! well compered to my yz125.

I had a real had time keeping my speed up and was shitting my self as i was trying to control the thing through rough parts of the track, like i was a passenger on a runaway freight train!
In terms of handling and fun my 1/4 price 5 year old yz blows it out of the water!

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Any more than 2 strokes is a wank!

9/1/2010 5:12 PM

Wait till I post some pics of my 300 when it's finished... 450 killer for sure!

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9/1/2010 5:16 PM

There is a Yz144 calling my name, question is do I trade my 250F or keep both? They both have their place!

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9/1/2010 5:41 PM

After a 10 year hiatus I bought an 03 KX 144 with too tech suspension and a bunch of other goodies for 2300.00. Its awesome, and I have always loved revving the snot out of 125's. But I also love the massive torque of the big bores so I am going to get a 450 in the near future. I don't see any point is selling the Kaw, so I will have the best of both worlds, for me anyway. I am pretty mechanically inclined so I don't think I will have any issues with a 450, except for what brand to buy!

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9/1/2010 5:49 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/1/2010 5:50 PM

Camp332 wrote:

I love my 450, however I want a CR125 2 smoke in my stable. 250 smoker, I'll pass.

Check out a 300cc KTM or Husky....you'll be surprised! I blew past my buddy's 250F KTM at REM like he was tied to a post when I was on the 300 KTM.

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9/1/2010 5:57 PM

racerj313 wrote:

I never understood the "easy to ride" thing. kinda seems like buying a corvette with an automatic tranny in it. I want to ...more

Thank you, sir.

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9/1/2010 6:43 PM

I'm deffinately thinking about going back to the two strokes.

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9/1/2010 6:47 PM

i have two 09 YZ 250 2 strokes and they are sweet. i have been trying my friends KX 450fi and i really like it. id like to try a crf 450 as well. i seem to carry more speed on the 4 stroke and this is on my personal track i ride my bikes on alot.

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