So over this Dungey/Reed thing... let's talk ET

wanglimp wrote:

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never...

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never going over 3 wins in a row. In 16 he won 9 also never going more than 3 in a row. That's no small feat and solid consistency. Tomac already has 8 wins and has strung 5 in a row, with 4 rounds remaining. That's a difference between dominance and constitency. I'm not taking anything away from Dungey, but I wouldn't say his last two championships were won with the dominance we are seeing from Eli right now.

JBlain619 wrote:

So to defend the Dungey nuthuggers from the Dungey haters. How many titles does any other rider in the 15/16 seasons have vs Dungey? 3 to...

So to defend the Dungey nuthuggers from the Dungey haters. How many titles does any other rider in the 15/16 seasons have vs Dungey? 3 to 1 in favor of Dungey. That to me is pretty dominant.

Just to clarify, I like both Eli and Dungey. The hate Dungey receives is just so over the top its ridiculous.

I don't know when individual race wins became more important than titles. I guess right around the time jumping a single over a tabletop over a single became a quad instead of a triple!

RJMX834 wrote:

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors...

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors. It's inspiring watching him do what he's doing. I am rooting for ET to win this thing. So for those of you who didn't believe 2-3 rounds ago he was gonna get any closer, you choosing him now?

UpTiTe wrote:

4 years since we've seen this dominance? Did you miss the last 2 years.?

RJMX834 wrote:

who dominated the last two years?

RJMX834 wrote:

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors...

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors. It's inspiring watching him do what he's doing. I am rooting for ET to win this thing. So for those of you who didn't believe 2-3 rounds ago he was gonna get any closer, you choosing him now?

UpTiTe wrote:

4 years since we've seen this dominance? Did you miss the last 2 years.?

wanglimp wrote:

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never...

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never going over 3 wins in a row. In 16 he won 9 also never going more than 3 in a row. That's no small feat and solid consistency. Tomac already has 8 wins and has strung 5 in a row, with 4 rounds remaining. That's a difference between dominance and constitency. I'm not taking anything away from Dungey, but I wouldn't say his last two championships were won with the dominance we are seeing from Eli right now.

RJMX834 wrote:

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors...

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors. It's inspiring watching him do what he's doing. I am rooting for ET to win this thing. So for those of you who didn't believe 2-3 rounds ago he was gonna get any closer, you choosing him now?

UpTiTe wrote:

4 years since we've seen this dominance? Did you miss the last 2 years.?

RJMX834 wrote:

who dominated the last two years?

RJMX834 wrote:

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors...

So let's Talk about Tomac. This guy's a man on a mission. it's been a good 4 years since we've seen anyone with his dominance indoors. It's inspiring watching him do what he's doing. I am rooting for ET to win this thing. So for those of you who didn't believe 2-3 rounds ago he was gonna get any closer, you choosing him now?

UpTiTe wrote:

4 years since we've seen this dominance? Did you miss the last 2 years.?

TheOriginalPancakee wrote:

I wouldn't say Dungey has "dominated". Unless your talking about Kenny dominating outdoors last year

Markee wrote:

If he gets a top 5 start, he is going to the front. At this point nobody is faster, and he knows it.

Turbojez wrote:

I'm pretty sure Dungey was closing in on Eli before you know what happened. Eli is incredible this year though, do you see any similarities to...

I'm pretty sure Dungey was closing in on Eli before you know what happened.

Eli is incredible this year though, do you see any similarities to RV's style?
I watched his riding really closely and thought "Damn, he looks a lot like RV" more than once.

RJMX834 wrote:

it's the way you have to ride that KX evidently. Tomac used to have to turn the bike with the front in corners. now he's finally...

it's the way you have to ride that KX evidently. Tomac used to have to turn the bike with the front in corners. now he's finally found s setup he likes and it's shown a difference in his style. now it's more with the rear wheel. like you said RV like.

kkawboy14 wrote:

ET actually faded backwards this year and has turned it around to push forward. I've been watching racing for 40 years, I don't think I have...

ET actually faded backwards this year and has turned it around to push forward. I've been watching racing for 40 years, I don't think I have ever seen what he has done. It's way different than just getting stuck in a hole from a bad start and turning the starts around.

wanglimp wrote:

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never...

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never going over 3 wins in a row. In 16 he won 9 also never going more than 3 in a row. That's no small feat and solid consistency. Tomac already has 8 wins and has strung 5 in a row, with 4 rounds remaining. That's a difference between dominance and constitency. I'm not taking anything away from Dungey, but I wouldn't say his last two championships were won with the dominance we are seeing from Eli right now.

JBlain619 wrote:

So to defend the Dungey nuthuggers from the Dungey haters. How many titles does any other rider in the 15/16 seasons have vs Dungey? 3 to...

So to defend the Dungey nuthuggers from the Dungey haters. How many titles does any other rider in the 15/16 seasons have vs Dungey? 3 to 1 in favor of Dungey. That to me is pretty dominant.

Just to clarify, I like both Eli and Dungey. The hate Dungey receives is just so over the top its ridiculous.

I don't know when individual race wins became more important than titles. I guess right around the time jumping a single over a tabletop over a single became a quad instead of a triple!

wanglimp wrote:

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never...

So to defend the OP from the Dungey nut huggers, since you think 15 and 16 were considered dominance. In 15 he won 8 races never going over 3 wins in a row. In 16 he won 9 also never going more than 3 in a row. That's no small feat and solid consistency. Tomac already has 8 wins and has strung 5 in a row, with 4 rounds remaining. That's a difference between dominance and constitency. I'm not taking anything away from Dungey, but I wouldn't say his last two championships were won with the dominance we are seeing from Eli right now.

USMCMXer wrote:

Ummm, NO! Obviously you are have some blind bromance with Eli, but he isn't even the points leader. Sorry bro, not sure what you are trying...

Ummm, NO! Obviously you are have some blind bromance with Eli, but he isn't even the points leader. Sorry bro, not sure what you are trying to say, but it is full of fail. Look, it's all good if you don't like Dungey, it is the "cool" thing to do on Vital, but get real. Your version of consistency versus dominance is just a tad flawed. Total points gained at the end of a series shows who did the best, period. Say what you want about what-ifs, put a personal spin on it, whatever, but the points total at series end is the goal for every rider racing, end of story. Ask CR and JS if they would trade some of those race wins for titles, I'd venture to bet they would...

What would his streaks had been if Detroit, which we all know he did indeed win, counted? I know, it doesn't fit your scenario, but shit happens in this sport. Just wait and watch, this season is far from over.

Hopefully this title comes down to Vegas. the big winners are the fans and nothing can be taken from any of the competitors out there as they are doing something 99.99% of the rest of the world can only fantasize about.

Here's to some good racing...

bobojim wrote:

Tomac actually looked unsure of himself at a few points in the interviews. I think he was uncomfortable on the track in the second half of...

Tomac actually looked unsure of himself at a few points in the interviews. I think he was uncomfortable on the track in the second half of the race (not nevessarily slower, but not flowing - per his interview statements) and knows it was lucky to be that easy. I saw a little chink in his confidence level. Not saying i know what would have happened or that he will struggle next week. Just interesting. I think he was most unsure just after the race for the first interview trackside.

kkawboy14 wrote:

They were all uncomfortable in the second half. The track was beat and Dungey lost another 5 seconds to Tomac after he passed Reed.