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8/4/2019 12:31 AM

We approaching MXON and we all agree that Netherlands is the favorite country for the win for multiple reasons. But there is still an unknow part for them as of now. MXGP and OPEN class are easy choices with Herlings and Coldenhoff but the real deal now is the MX2 category. They neeed to make a choice between Calvin Vlaanderen and Roan Van De Moosdijk. I think their performances this weekend will be the deciding who is taking the spot. Even I can't really say who takes it as of now. So who is your pick ?

CV10
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RVDM39
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8/4/2019 12:41 AM

yeah youre right , i would pick Vlaanderen for this race ..has more experience and did good with a 2 and 5 at last years GP at Assen .He has been out for some time but is showing great speed again .. if Roan is getting better en better he is the next rider to complete future team and possibly make it even stronger , as he is a great talent

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8/4/2019 2:22 AM

Moosdijk has been on rails lately. He went 1st in time practice and 1-1 in the motos at the last Dutch Masters round, smoking Geerts, Vlaanderen, Jacobi and Sterry for example. And he blew the rest of the EMX field out of the water yesterday.

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8/4/2019 2:58 AM

VD Moosdijk just went 1 - 1 in EMX250 in Lommel so he should be kept in mind for a spot for sure. I think he also kept up with Geerts in some Dutch National rounds so he has the speed for mx2.

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8/4/2019 3:29 AM

The only way they pick Moosdijk over Vlaanderen is if he gets hurt. Vlaanderen has the experience and speed to run top 3 out of all MX2 competitors. There’s absolutely no reason to take the chance on a guy who doesn’t race the class when they have a great option already. Team Netherlands will be Herlings, Coldenhoff and Vlaanderen barring injury.

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8/4/2019 3:32 AM

Speedwise RVDM would be the one, but its hard not to choose a guy who is riding for a podium in the GPMX2 all the time..

I also mentioned Herlings keeping a good eye on Roan yesterday during the moto. I think Herlings got something to say about the selection of the riders.

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8/4/2019 3:57 AM

i just hope whoever they pick, they've picked because he is the best Dutch 250cc rider

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8/4/2019 4:36 AM

RichardLoots wrote:

yeah youre right , i would pick Vlaanderen for this race ..has more experience and did good with a 2 and 5 at last years GP at Assen .He has been out for some time but is showing great speed again .. if Roan is getting better en better he is the next rider to complete future team and possibly make it even stronger , as he is a great talent

I'm glad you don't decide. Even been in Assen and watched Vlaanderen? Definately they have to pick Vd Moosdijk

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8/4/2019 5:28 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/4/2019 5:55 AM

RichardLoots wrote:

yeah youre right , i would pick Vlaanderen for this race ..has more experience and did good with a 2 and 5 at last years GP at Assen .He has been out for some time but is showing great speed again .. if Roan is getting better en better he is the next rider to complete future team and possibly make it even stronger , as he is a great talent

Arofin wrote:

I'm glad you don't decide. Even been in Assen and watched Vlaanderen? Definately they have to pick Vd Moosdijk

oh really ,if Vlaanderen is that bad , how come he came second in second moto last year behind Prado in Assen ??
he has good results at Assen , went 4-4 in 2017 ..and you make it sound he sucks at Assen ..


i get why people would choose Roan , but to put a rookie with only EMX experience in that spot on a race we can finally win MXON at home doesnt seem a smart move in my opinion ...

but everybody has his own opinion ... why are you so sure Roan would do better at Assen if Calvin is obvious able to get on podium against current 250 riders ??

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8/4/2019 9:54 AM

RichardLoots wrote:

yeah youre right , i would pick Vlaanderen for this race ..has more experience and did good with a 2 and 5 at last years GP at Assen .He has been out for some time but is showing great speed again .. if Roan is getting better en better he is the next rider to complete future team and possibly make it even stronger , as he is a great talent

Arofin wrote:

I'm glad you don't decide. Even been in Assen and watched Vlaanderen? Definately they have to pick Vd Moosdijk

RichardLoots wrote:

oh really ,if Vlaanderen is that bad , how come he came second in second moto last year behind Prado in Assen ??
he has good results at Assen , went 4-4 in 2017 ..and you make it sound he sucks at Assen ..


i get why people would choose Roan , but to put a rookie with only EMX experience in that spot on a race we can finally win MXON at home doesnt seem a smart move in my opinion ...

but everybody has his own opinion ... why are you so sure Roan would do better at Assen if Calvin is obvious able to get on podium against current 250 riders ??

The fact is that Vlaanderen might race the 450 soon and they need to give experience to a young rider like RVDM this year

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8/4/2019 10:47 AM

I think I would just side with Vlaanderen because of his extra experience, but Van De Moosdijk is really making them have a tough decision to make. He was incredible this weekend, he would’ve been in the podium hunt in MX2 for sure, but would throwing him into a MXoN on home soil, with the pressure of being favourites be too much for him?

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8/4/2019 10:50 AM

Arofin wrote:

I'm glad you don't decide. Even been in Assen and watched Vlaanderen? Definately they have to pick Vd Moosdijk

RichardLoots wrote:

oh really ,if Vlaanderen is that bad , how come he came second in second moto last year behind Prado in Assen ??
he has good results at Assen , went 4-4 in 2017 ..and you make it sound he sucks at Assen ..


i get why people would choose Roan , but to put a rookie with only EMX experience in that spot on a race we can finally win MXON at home doesnt seem a smart move in my opinion ...

but everybody has his own opinion ... why are you so sure Roan would do better at Assen if Calvin is obvious able to get on podium against current 250 riders ??

kaidoddragon wrote:

The fact is that Vlaanderen might race the 450 soon and they need to give experience to a young rider like RVDM this year

I don’t really get this approach. Maybe if a team has a couple riders injured and has no hope of winning then they can perhaps look to putting riders in just to get experience. But other than that, you have to pick the best riders that are available at that time, don’t worry about what might happen a couple of years down the line

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8/4/2019 11:38 AM

You gotta go with MooseDICK...just for his name! Legendary...

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8/4/2019 11:46 AM

seventeen wrote:

You gotta go with MooseDICK...just for his name! Legendary...

I get the feeling we might be hearing a lot more of that name in the future 😂

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8/4/2019 11:49 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/4/2019 11:50 AM

seventeen wrote:

You gotta go with MooseDICK...just for his name! Legendary...

Dude, beat me to it. smile

That guy is either an MXDN champion or a frat party legend. Either way, winner!



EDIT: Actually, I think his name translates to something like "From the Moosedick," so his dad is the legend, right?

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8/4/2019 11:51 AM

Vlaanderen gets a second place overall at Lommel GP behind Prado .. dude can ride sand , no question

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8/4/2019 11:52 AM

Vlaanderen, He knows the pressure and he as experience. He seems in good shape.

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8/4/2019 11:52 AM

On a side note, I'm just cracking up, imagining the TLD Character that would belong to this guy....

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Braaapin' aint easy.

8/4/2019 12:08 PM

Yeah but Zwart cross the other day VDM ended up ahead of Calvin twice that can give us the doubts...

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8/4/2019 12:20 PM

After Redbud i say never pick Vlaanderen again when he is still on that HRC Honda if that bike would not have given out we would've won the MXON. And van de Moosdijk is riding great and has been healthy all year.

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8/4/2019 12:29 PM

Not to derail the conversation, but what's up with Rene Hofer in EMX? I thought he was supposed to be the next big thing.

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8/4/2019 1:02 PM

Vlaanderen isnt perhaps quicker than Van de Moosdijk in the sand, but his bike is without any doubt better.

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8/4/2019 1:06 PM

Word on the street is Puerto Rico is sending a retired racer,a girl, and Mike Brown. Lol

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8/4/2019 1:23 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/4/2019 1:32 PM

visser62 wrote:

Not to derail the conversation, but what's up with Rene Hofer in EMX? I thought he was supposed to be the next big thing.

EMX has always been a stacked class ,its not easy to win. Hofer raced 125 last year , was 3rd in season and raced only 5 out of the 8 races
Prado who came to EMX 250 as a EMX 125 champ never won a moto in his EMX 250 season and look at him now , some just need some time to adjust to 250 fourstrokes .. some will do better , some dont . time will tell

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8/4/2019 1:26 PM

THE mx addict wrote:

Vlaanderen isnt perhaps quicker than Van de Moosdijk in the sand, but his bike is without any doubt better.

Not if its a mudder they had to change multiple engines at Redbud and the DNF was not because of his eye but because the engine failed in moto 1 coming out of the turn before the table top before the rollers

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8/4/2019 1:29 PM

The Netherlands are easily the best team to have never won. Put three Dutch guys on the team, not a guy that got pissed at the South Africa federation for wanting to use the SA flag. Had they had a three Dutch guys last year they would have most likely won and would be going for two in a row. Downvote away!

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8/4/2019 1:50 PM

Jasper125 wrote:

After Redbud i say never pick Vlaanderen again when he is still on that HRC Honda if that bike would not have given out we would've won the MXON. And van de Moosdijk is riding great and has been healthy all year.

He took a rock to the eye and wasn’t cleared to race per doctor.

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8/4/2019 1:56 PM

Jasper125 wrote:

After Redbud i say never pick Vlaanderen again when he is still on that HRC Honda if that bike would not have given out we would've won the MXON. And van de Moosdijk is riding great and has been healthy all year.

NVA57 wrote:

He took a rock to the eye and wasn’t cleared to race per doctor.

Be nice to Jasper125, he has inside info about changing engines. Ya know those crappy HRC engines.

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8/4/2019 2:14 PM

Park Boys wrote:

The Netherlands are easily the best team to have never won. Put three Dutch guys on the team, not a guy that got pissed at the South Africa federation for wanting to use the SA flag. Had they had a three Dutch guys last year they would have most likely won and would be going for two in a row. Downvote away!

So true laughing

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8/4/2019 2:18 PM

Jasper125 wrote:

After Redbud i say never pick Vlaanderen again when he is still on that HRC Honda if that bike would not have given out we would've won the MXON. And van de Moosdijk is riding great and has been healthy all year.

NVA57 wrote:

He took a rock to the eye and wasn’t cleared to race per doctor.

FU2 wrote:

Be nice to Jasper125, he has inside info about changing engines. Ya know those crappy HRC engines.

I was at Redbud they had to replace an engine on one bike on saturday and i watched that bike blow up 1st moto and it was in the pit area covered in oil, if you dont believe me here is the official Honda statement from the MXON

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Team HRC’s Calvin Vlaanderen had a challenging race day in his Motocross of Nations debut at the RedBud MX track in Michigan, United States. The 22-year-old from Cape Town was running in twelfth position in the first race of the day (MXGP+MX2) when a small technical issue forced him to an early retirement from the moto.

If Vlaanderen would've finished we would've won easy because he was riding great...

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