So... Who takes the 450 kawi 2018 ? (Hill vs Savatgy)

5/9/2017 4:24am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2017 4:26am
Kawasaki and Grant will probably part ways next year and I heard Kawi is in discussion with both Savatgy and Hill to take Josh's ride. Also heard that when both were holding their red plates, Savatgy had the advantage over Hill but now that Justin easily won the title with a good ride for 2nd at Vegas, and after Savatgy lost that title that was his to lose, does Hill get the 450 ride ?
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5/9/2017 4:28am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2017 4:57am
Hill will take the seat IF it's available as Grant has been not to bad after getting both ankles operated on prior to SX, but Hills bro Josh works for monster which will help get him the inside running on the seat, plus if there isn't many 450 seats available they might be able to get him cheap with monster topping up his price tag and then could still keep Grant who wouldn't be on that much either I wouldn't think. as far as savatgy goes he might look to RCH as he has a good relationship with RC and trains there
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5/9/2017 4:44am
Neither. Grant is not going anywhere.
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5/9/2017 4:52am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2017 4:54am
I would bet my money on Hill if this is Grants last year on the team. The way Savatgy has bottled the title is probably scaring the factory 450 teams away at the moment. Things might change if the wins the outdoor title.
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5/9/2017 5:19am
Savatgy is re signing on a 250 and Hill is still under contract. But hypothetically out of those two guys it would be Hill getting the 450 right.

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5/9/2017 5:43am
I would probably say that Hill has more leverage than Savatgy right now. Savatgy has narrowly lost two championships that he should have won pretty easily at this point.
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5/9/2017 6:04am
IWreckALot wrote:
I would probably say that Hill has more leverage than Savatgy right now. Savatgy has narrowly lost two championships that he should have won pretty easily...
I would probably say that Hill has more leverage than Savatgy right now. Savatgy has narrowly lost two championships that he should have won pretty easily at this point.
2017 = Should have been easy.

2016 = Webb owned him. Savatgy needed luck to win it and Cooper did what he had to do. Had Cooper Webb not "dabbed" over the finish line of A2 (I believe?) Savatgy wouldn't have even been a topic of discussion.

Cam Newton - Panthers Lost Superbowl
Dabo Sweeny - Clemson Lost CFB National Championship
Roy Williams - UNC Lost NCAA Championship

The Dab was not kind to the Carolinas. Cooper was the only winner. Sad.
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5/9/2017 6:11am
Hill would definitely take it. Savatgy just isnt there. Hill vs grant is arguable. Grant vs savatgy is a no brainer.
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5/9/2017 6:20am
I bet Grant stays and the other two go elsewhere.
5/9/2017 6:36am
IWreckALot wrote:
I would probably say that Hill has more leverage than Savatgy right now. Savatgy has narrowly lost two championships that he should have won pretty easily...
I would probably say that Hill has more leverage than Savatgy right now. Savatgy has narrowly lost two championships that he should have won pretty easily at this point.
TJMX947 wrote:
2017 = Should have been easy. 2016 = Webb owned him. Savatgy needed luck to win it and Cooper did what he had to do. Had...
2017 = Should have been easy.

2016 = Webb owned him. Savatgy needed luck to win it and Cooper did what he had to do. Had Cooper Webb not "dabbed" over the finish line of A2 (I believe?) Savatgy wouldn't have even been a topic of discussion.

Cam Newton - Panthers Lost Superbowl
Dabo Sweeny - Clemson Lost CFB National Championship
Roy Williams - UNC Lost NCAA Championship

The Dab was not kind to the Carolinas. Cooper was the only winner. Sad.
250 outdoor title. He had a big point lead at one point in the series iirc
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5/9/2017 6:40am
Factory Kawasaki needs to re-sign Grant and make a 3rd spot for Hill.

I don't like just two man teams. Not enough exposure of bikes in the main for Kawasaki AND if 1 or 2 guys get injured you still at least have a rider and don't have to park the truck or scramble for a replacement (ask Honda just about every year).
5/9/2017 7:11am
Savatgy isn't even in the same realm as Hill and definitely not Grant! Joey will make zero impact on a 450 and I think will have a hard time finding a 450 ride. My guess is he will stick around on the 250 another year. Hill and Osborne on the other hand are most definitely ready for the big bikes. Kawi would be shit for brains if they didn't resign Grant to another year, he is terrific this year.
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5/9/2017 7:45am
It would be nice to see a 450 PC again.

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5/9/2017 8:15am
The rumor I heard was that Hill will stay 250, even though he stated 450 was his goal, huge pay raise to defend title on 250. Hill can use the fact he wants to go 450 to ask for maximum cash to race the 250.

Same with Savatgy, he stays right where he is at PC. He get's another year from the rule change.
Grant gets the spot next to Eli, nothing changes.

The only problem is Hill talking about definitely going 450? I hope he does, remember him at Monster Cup on the 450, it was that ride that had me thinking he would dominate on the KTM 250.

Hill seems to bleed green, wonder if he'd go to RCH with a Monster helmet deal?
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5/9/2017 8:27am
Uh, is it just me or did we just have a rule change that empowers the Team to keep BOTH of them Right where they're at...?
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5/9/2017 8:36am
TeamGreen wrote:
Uh, is it just me or did we just have a rule change that empowers the Team to keep BOTH of them Right where they're at...?
Best part about that rule change?

Some racers might of known before it went public.
Some racers might have had to pull a Marvin to lose points because they didn't know they would not be kicked from the class.

Thin ice, better leave it at that.

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