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The way some companies are involved, you start wondering what their end game is. Is it to support the sport? Or to steer the sport?
He put it forward in quite a few interviews at the time DMG acquired the majority of US Motorcycle racing, and he presided over the numerous disastrous Road Racing rule changes, until he went to Canada. But, I think he may be back.
Look it up. Cycle News may have it in their archives. As grandiose as it may sound, You, as the owner of what I think is the largest MX / SX site, are a 'Steward' of our sport ( like it or not), and I think you should be aware of history, and that it could happen, in the way he put forward.
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Neither Roger Edmondson and nor anyone from the France family has ever publicly commented on the Motocross series and moving it to Super Speedways. In fact, none of them have ever gone on the record to speak about Motocross or anything even remotely close. I had a front row seat for all the media and press and interviews that took place when the deal went down in 2007/2008, and I am 100% certain that this vision was never discussed or thought about.
And thats leaving aside the historical Daytona Supercross, which is its own event and already classified as a Supercross.
Edmondson never once, ever, had any intentions of getting involved with American Motocross. It wasn't his deal.
Your suggestion that this idea was on the table for consideration in America is simply not correct.
It was not said in any press conference that I know of - certainly not in the 2008 one where they announced DMGs acquisition of much of the AMA's portfolio of Motorcycle Sports.
It was in a written interview , sometime between then and Roger Edmondsons (first?) firing / resignation in 2010.
I'm trying to find it - but it's a long time ago, and I can't recall what magazine / publication I read it in. I'll keep trying, as I'm pretty sure others here won't.
It was a 'vision / model' Roger Edmondson put up - it may have been his 'vision' and his alone but, he was a fairly prominent member of staff of the DMG organisation.
I assume most of you know of the disastrous rule changes he presided over, with relation to your Road Race series?
Perhaps I've upset friends of Edmondson here, but all I know of him is his near destruction of one the great Road Race series, and I am citing one of his other, hair brained ideas.
Yes, it correlates quite closely to Luongos ideas for MX. I wonder if Luongo got the idea from him, or Edmondson got the idea from Luongo?
Luongo, I think, courted the AMA, and then DMG, trying to be the controller of US Motocross ( Clear Channel / Live Nation, and then Feld, as we know, hold the rights to SX) Thankfully, DC and Co got the contract.
Funnily (well, not), in my searching, I found straight away, reports on the FIMs (President?) Ippolito, in 2008/ 2009? with his talking about expanding SX to a "Real" World Championships. The sort of extra rounds they mentioned then, are much like what has been speculated about recently.This is to show how ideas can recirculate . Here's a copy and paste of that
*** In the same issue of Cycle News Henry Ray Abrams’ “Chicanery” column lays out a doomsday scenario. Abrams is a firebrand, a muckraker, a hyperbolic prophet of doom who is unhappy no matter what the AMA does. He’s excoriated Rob Dingman since he took the helm of the AMA. In spite of this, or maybe because of it, I like to read his stuff. In Abrams’ vision LiveNation/AMA/FIM expand the SX World Championship to the point it sucks so many dollars, riders, and dates from the US Nationals the series collapses. The relevant quote from Ippolito is this:
"The FIM is interested in having events outside of North America. If we have a World Championship, it must be a real World Championship. We have to push in this direction, and LiveNation agrees that this is important. They understand and are very interested to help have rounds outside of North America."
Abrams is right about a lot of things. Add 4 or 5 dates to the SX series, throw in the extra travel time to Asia and Australia, and you could have a real conflict with current MX National dates. At the very least you create a really long season. Now consider the Youthstream move, which has the following stated goal:
Youthstream USA has been formed to expand Youthstream’s worldwide operations and bring world-class events to the USA and other markets. This includes future Motocross and SuperMoto Grand Prix events and the prestigious Red Bull Motocross of Nations". *****
The sadly missed Henry Ray Abrams was a vociferous critic of the AMA, before it became DMGs AMA Pro - and, was, probably, even more so as he / we witnessed the damage done to Road Racing by Edmondson.
You blokes seem to be taking offense to my mentioning Edmondsons ideas. I read an interview , that I'm trying to find, so you might not think I'm inventing things. Why in hell would I?
I'm not advocating such a thing, nor am I suggesting any others here might. But I am absolutely sure I read an interview with that individual, talking about having Outdoor Motocross, in (Super) Speedways.
I'll keep looking, perhaps you fellows might, too.
An 8yr old is welcome to ride 65-85 class or if a real beginner and the parent prefers he/she can ride 50cc if needed.
This isn't a race and is intended to be fun for all.
And Supercross is, was and always will be shit. Just wanna be clear on that.
As I stated in my earlier message, Roger E. and the France family never once had any plans to own, operate or run outdoor MX in the USA. When they purchased AMA Pro Racing, it was always a pass through deal from the begining of the negotiations.
If you can prove me wrong by finding this so called interview, please do, but I am certain that you have confused matters in your head and that no such interview exists with Roger or any France family member.
I am neither defending nor am I "friends" with any of the parties you mention, I just want to make sure that we dont spread any mis-information and re-write history that didnt exist.
As for Henny Ray, he was a very, very close friend of mine and we spoke a few times each month. He was one of the truly great motorcycle journalists, having been around the sport since the 1970's. Hray passed away at the age of 57 and while sitting at his keyboard, doing all that he knew. His "chicanery" columns were legendary. They were sometimes accurate, and sometimes nothing more than convenient (and fun, for him) conjecture.
But he quit doing them when some of the folks in the business (and maybe rightly so) got pissed and complained to CN management. One day after his boss complained to him about someone else complaining about his writing, he dropped the Mike and walked away, never to do another opinion piece again. Ironically, I dont think Cycle News ever posted another critical bit of editorial again, and before it folded.
They were always a fun read, for better or worse.
RIP, HRay47.
As George Bernard Shaw said, "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig...."
Pit Row
Hope the weather improves for tomorrow! Whether youre a fan of man made tracks or not it would be shame to see all the hard work those guys in Charlotte have put in go to waste.
And MXNick is right, we have never discussed going inside "super speedways" with the exception of Miller Motorsports Park, which simply did not work out the way either the facility or the series would hope.
I hope the weather clears up and the folks in Charlotte see a great motocross event on Saturday night. I won't make it, unfortunately, taking a little time with my kids after a long and successful summer.
Does anyone know what time the live TV coverage starts up?
DC
Anyway I really hope they can fix that track up.. It'll suck the dong if it's a mudder!!
this is what mine says
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