Smallest & Largest Win-By Gap Time

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3/1/2019 11:49 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/1/2019 11:49 AM

Watching Bar to Bar 2004 today the highlights of the 125 St. Louise race showed James with a 27+ second gap on 2nd place Josh Hansen. Got me thinking, with 2 weeks ago, we hit the smallest win-by gap ever. What would be the largest? In SX and/or MX? Anybody know where to find those times? 27 seconds in a supercross race seems unbeatable, and whenever Ricky lapped the field in MX might also be the top, but I am sure you guys have some others you can think of...

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3/1/2019 11:55 AM

DF313 wrote:

Watching Bar to Bar 2004 today the highlights of the 125 St. Louise race showed James with a 27+ second gap on 2nd place Josh Hansen. Got me thinking, with 2 weeks ago, we hit the smallest win-by gap ever. What would be the largest? In SX and/or MX? Anybody know where to find those times? 27 seconds in a supercross race seems unbeatable, and whenever Ricky lapped the field in MX might also be the top, but I am sure you guys have some others you can think of...

Largest- Millville? when RC lapped everyone except DV

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3/1/2019 12:04 PM

Several years back there was an SX race where the guy getting over the finish line jump first wasn't the winner. Seems the transponder pickup is buried at the base of the jump, not the lip. How did that work out in Dallas ?

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3/1/2019 12:11 PM

James won at Millville during his perfect season run by a minute and 10 seconds, but I'm guessing Ricky surpassed that at some point during his 24-0 runs.

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3/1/2019 12:36 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/1/2019 12:40 PM

devindavisphoto wrote:

James won at Millville during his perfect season run by a minute and 10 seconds, but I'm guessing Ricky surpassed that at some point during his 24-0 runs.

Didn't Tomac beat Dungey at Hangtown in 2015 by one minute 35 seconds or close to that?

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3/1/2019 12:38 PM

Didn’t Tomac back it down and still beat Dungey by 1min 20 some odd seconds?

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3/1/2019 2:00 PM

If the tomac 2015 hangtown win was the largest margin, and Detroit was the smallest margin, you could argue that we live in a time with some of the best racing happening..and that we may look back on this era the same way many look back on MC in the 90s or RC in the late 90s early 2000s...

“These are the good old days”

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3/1/2019 2:09 PM

Bob Hannah also lapped upto second place in the late 70's.

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3/1/2019 2:29 PM

Herlings beat Van Horebeek by 2:05 at the GP in Lierop on a perfectly conditioned track, laped up to 2nd place. What RC did was on a totaly muddy track where bikes got stuck etc. I say Herlings performance is on par or bigger than what RC did.. ? NOT neglichating RC though, crazy performance also.

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3/1/2019 3:29 PM

Not pro, but growing up watching Travis Pastrana as an amateur lap most of the field and put over a minute on second place was pretty common.

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3/1/2019 4:03 PM

DF313 wrote:

Watching Bar to Bar 2004 today the highlights of the 125 St. Louise race showed James with a 27+ second gap on 2nd place Josh Hansen. Got me thinking, with 2 weeks ago, we hit the smallest win-by gap ever. What would be the largest? In SX and/or MX? Anybody know where to find those times? 27 seconds in a supercross race seems unbeatable, and whenever Ricky lapped the field in MX might also be the top, but I am sure you guys have some others you can think of...

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Largest- Millville? when RC lapped everyone except DV

He lapped DV as well. But thats gotta be the biggest gap considering the lap times were probably around 3 minutes in that mess.

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3/1/2019 4:11 PM

im thinking bubba at troy had a huge lead on the 125. don't know the time but it felt like days lol. crazy when someone puts that much time on the best.

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3/1/2019 4:15 PM

smoothies862 wrote:

im thinking bubba at troy had a huge lead on the 125. don't know the time but it felt like days lol. crazy when someone puts that much time on the best.

Watching James ride a 125 really was something else. Glad I got to witness it in person.

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3/1/2019 4:27 PM

smoothies862 wrote:

im thinking bubba at troy had a huge lead on the 125. don't know the time but it felt like days lol. crazy when someone puts that much time on the best.

JBecker 72 wrote:

Watching James ride a 125 really was something else. Glad I got to witness it in person.

Watching him ride the 125 was insane, but the second moto at Glen Helen in 04 on the 250F? He absolutely destroyed everyone.

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3/1/2019 4:30 PM

not sure of the gap over 2nd but Carlqvist stopping for a beer 1/2 way through the moto at Namur in 88 had to be the best moto win

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3/1/2019 5:32 PM

Didn't Carmichael lap up to 2nd place in one race? I would consider that a pretty big gap...

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3/1/2019 5:36 PM

Monk wrote:

Didn't Carmichael lap up to 2nd place in one race? I would consider that a pretty big gap...

Already mentioned, lapped the whole field. End of debate.

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3/1/2019 5:40 PM

mxb2 wrote:

Already mentioned, lapped the whole field. End of debate.

Probably the biggest margin of victory but not the most impressive IMO. The huge margins on dry tracks are more impressive to me

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3/1/2019 5:48 PM

wolf918 wrote:

Didn’t Tomac back it down and still beat Dungey by 1min 20 some odd seconds?

I totally forgot about that performance! That might be up there in the top 3 biggest margins (dry or wet)

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3/1/2019 6:52 PM

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3/1/2019 7:00 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/1/2019 7:00 PM

I remember in a SX race in maybe 04 or 05 Chad and RC lapped everyone else and took their win down to the last lap, those dudes were on another level

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3/1/2019 7:42 PM

DF313 wrote:

Watching Bar to Bar 2004 today the highlights of the 125 St. Louise race showed James with a 27+ second gap on 2nd place Josh Hansen. Got me thinking, with 2 weeks ago, we hit the smallest win-by gap ever. What would be the largest? In SX and/or MX? Anybody know where to find those times? 27 seconds in a supercross race seems unbeatable, and whenever Ricky lapped the field in MX might also be the top, but I am sure you guys have some others you can think of...

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Largest- Millville? when RC lapped everyone except DV

RC lapped DV too

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3/1/2019 7:44 PM

devindavisphoto wrote:

James won at Millville during his perfect season run by a minute and 10 seconds, but I'm guessing Ricky surpassed that at some point during his 24-0 runs.

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Didn't Tomac beat Dungey at Hangtown in 2015 by one minute 35 seconds or close to that?

91-seconds.

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3/1/2019 7:45 PM

DF313 wrote:

Watching Bar to Bar 2004 today the highlights of the 125 St. Louise race showed James with a 27+ second gap on 2nd place Josh Hansen. Got me thinking, with 2 weeks ago, we hit the smallest win-by gap ever. What would be the largest? In SX and/or MX? Anybody know where to find those times? 27 seconds in a supercross race seems unbeatable, and whenever Ricky lapped the field in MX might also be the top, but I am sure you guys have some others you can think of...

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Largest- Millville? when RC lapped everyone except DV

ShipLap wrote:

RC lapped DV too

My bad. I thought DV was the only one he didn’t lap.

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3/1/2019 7:58 PM

blockhead17 wrote:

I remember in a SX race in maybe 04 or 05 Chad and RC lapped everyone else and took their win down to the last lap, those dudes were on another level

05 San Diego. All of the other riders were basically just more obstacles.



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3/1/2019 8:02 PM

blockhead17 wrote:

I remember in a SX race in maybe 04 or 05 Chad and RC lapped everyone else and took their win down to the last lap, those dudes were on another level

2005 San Diego Supercross. On the last lap in the same corner Chad passed Rickey, and Larocco passed DV for 3rd, they were a lap apart. Chad lapped DV, Rickey crashed and Larocco stayed on the lead lap. Top 3 finished on the lead lap.

But the battle for 1st and 3rd being in the same corner a lap apart will always stand out in my mind. Reed had the whoops dialed that night.

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3/1/2019 10:13 PM

2006 San Fran James and Ricky lapped the field.

The next race was at SBC Park in San Francisco, and this time the rain showed up and stayed. An epic battle got underway after a holeshot by MDK Honda rider Nick Wey, who hailed from Michigan and was right at home in the mud. Once Stewart and RC dispatched of Wey, they took off together and put on a collective mud-riding clinic. Said Ralph Sheheen, “I’ve never seen a race that was so slow that was so thrilling!” They put the entire field down a lap, as Wey—in earning his first premier-class podium—only completed eleven of the rain-shortened twelve-lap race. Watch this instant classic’s highlights right here.

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3/1/2019 10:24 PM

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3/1/2019 11:36 PM

I said the same here obove, herlings won by 2:05 over jvh on a perfectly conditioned track. And JVH started 2nd! Pure speed...

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3/2/2019 12:27 AM

blockhead17 wrote:

I remember in a SX race in maybe 04 or 05 Chad and RC lapped everyone else and took their win down to the last lap, those dudes were on another level

USA wrote:

05 San Diego. All of the other riders were basically just more obstacles.



Just re-watched that.. Damn! What a race!!
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