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Had George not been such a jackass to deal with, this problem wouldn't exist. He was. I would suggest you go back and read my original post here, because you aren't getting it. Period. Read it 5 or 6 times, if necessary, just to let it sink in. ONE other person worked on that frame after George, besides me. The guy who GOT THE MOTOR TO FIT IN BETWEEN THE FRAME RAILS! It was a hot stinking mess, and I'll be DAMNED if I'll waste one more minute of my time or cent of my money allowing a hack to work on something that was so bad to begin with. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. I could have lived with a couple minor faux pas, but that's not the case here. More importantly, I'm not the only unhappy customer he has, just the one bringing this to light. If you have a problem with this, that's what it is. YOUR problem.
I would say by the comments in this thread that people aren't impressed by the (lack thereof) workmanship. Maybe I can even prevent some poor sap from buying one of Georges bikes and getting hurt. The pictures and posts speak volumes, and I don't think the crowd is screaming their disapproval.
I'm guilty of nothing, other than exposing a schuyster, a fraud, and an unethical incompetent hack. Perhaps you should check out banned and KXRiders as well. Nobody there is singing their praises of his work.
Allow me to re-iterate what I said before. If you are happy with YOUR purchase, that's great. For the money you paid, you should be. I'm not, and I'm letting people know it. This isn't about me, it's about not letting George get away with his antics anymore. With any luck, so far the cost has only been in dollars, not injuries or lives. I would urge you to think about that last statement as you stand on your soapbox.
Feel free to tell George to stop by and justify that piece of crap. I'm waiting.
The Shop
Let me put this into perspective for you. If you bought a brand new Chev pickup truck, it was a piece of shit and nothing but trouble, with warranty not really fixing the problems, would you recommend buying one to a friend? If Chev thought nothing of selling 10,000 more because they could, despite knowing the problems with their product, would YOU be pissed?
I went through this with Volvo Trucks in 96. Bought a brand new truck that cost me $2000 a month in payments and it was a nightmare. Just a turd from day one, and burned 10 gallons of oil in 10,000 miles (basically the oil change interval) and said "You're not changing your oil often enough." Lol. Ya, okay. 10 fresh gallons of oil in 10,000 miles, but I'm not changing it enough. 2 years before they agreed to deal with it, at a cost of $150 a month in extra oil costs a month TO ME. A grand total of $3600, almost 2 truck payments in 2 years. They pulled the head off, only after 2 pipe plugs in the deck started leaking, and 2 cylinders were polished up like a mirror. The rings never seated from day 1. Gee, you think? I'll never own a Volvo truck again.
Game on!
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Interesting-2-stroke-on-display-at-local-car-show,1243116?page=3
Pit Row
C'mon George, show us what your made of and feel free to post up some pics of that personal bike of yours as well. Be man enough to debate this and defend your product. Maybe a pic or two of that "aftermarket induction system" (lmfao) on your 48 h.p. earthmover. Vital awaits you.....................
Oh, btw, I forgot. Happy New Year.
it is 3 years old.
the fella had the warning signs but still decided to do business.
the fella is posting pictures AFTER someone touched it, of course the fella is going to defend that point but he'd a allot cleaner if he was posting pictures of the original work.
the fella says the 500 sites know all about it, great, so the knowledge is readily available
both guys involved in this are schmucks is what i am taking from it.
bll, you are entitled to your opinion. As am I. The fact this is still here, speaks volumes. Allow me to ask you this. If a friend of yours bought a bike from MPS, and wound up in a wheelchair because it came apart in a hard landing, would you still have the same cavalier opinion? Get back to us on that, will you?
I've hidden nothing in my posts, nor do I need to. I've made it plain that this is the end result of Georges work. The guy who fixed this didn't make or weld one thing on that frame conversion, insofar as the motor mounts are concerned. He had to make that mess work, and he did. So what you are looking at is the frame AFTER it worked, not before. In April of 2010, when I picked this frame up, I never would have thought I'd be dealing with this. I was so disgusted with the job, it sat in my garage, unfinished, til last October. I honestly thought of just taking it and throwing the frame in the scrap heap, but I'm glad I didn't. That would mean it's not here now, letting the public know what to expect.
Perhaps mr klein, in his vehement defense of MPS, would like to post pics of his Yamaha frame. Just so we can see if things have gotten better. He did say he was happy with it, so there's really nothing to hide, is there? Doesn't even have to strip the bike either, just pull the pipe and show the welds at the "Y" and lower motor mounts. Maybe a shot of that obvious 4-stroke airboot he made work on a CR500 carb. Wonder how badly THAT chokes back the h.p. on his bike?
I notice MPS Daddy hasn't chimed in here either. Interesting.
I understand his defense though, he doesn''t want to feel like his 1300+ dollars to have George do 3-4 shit welds was wasted. I wouldn't either.
Showing pictures after somebody else has worked on the bike.
George offered to replace the frame.
You have stated there are problems with George's work, but you also state you did not want him to fix his mistakes, and now three years later you continue to bash him.
To me that is just wrong.
Yes I have the YZ 500 AFC, and you can pick apart the welds, but they are strong.
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