Should lite's class have an age limit?

kawa38
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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 7:45pm
Was thinking after Hansens win at age 27.He's older than most 450 riders..What you guy's think.
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1/11/2011 9:24am
No, as expensive as it is to compete in that class there should be no age limit. Also, it should run the full series, not regional.

Now the new 125cc class.....age limit and regionals!Smile
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1/11/2011 9:31am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2011 9:32am
No, because if i remember right Dowd won the 125 west when he was 28 or 29 and he was just using it as a stepping stone like it should be. However i think Hansen has gone back and forth too much and something should be said about that. Its one thing to be a fill in rider like what TC did last year, but to bounce back and forth (and also win a series on a 450) multiple times is a little unacceptable imo.
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kawa38 wrote:
Was thinking after Hansens win at age 27.He's older than most 450 riders..What you guy's think.
Listen to last night's Pulp MX Show archive.
Mitch Payton talked a little about this and made some good points,of why it is a bad idea.
Not to mention his "this is America" line was great. Smile
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kawa38 wrote:
Was thinking after Hansens win at age 27.He's older than most 450 riders..What you guy's think.
27? damn, I forgot how old he was I guess.
If he's still playing by the rules, lett'em play.

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1/11/2011 9:43am
NO.... jack ass... who comes up with this stuff... age limit?
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Not a big fan of an age cap on either side of the pond. I think both classes should be open for anyone, regardless of age.

I used to like watching the older, more experienced riders battling the young pretenders in the 125 class back in the day - Dobb vs Langston for example. Its a shame we have to wait for the annual MXdN to see that kind of face off now.

While I understand the 250 class is good for bringing youngsters on, I'd rather see the best of the best making careers for themselves than handfuls of fast riders getting shafted at the expense of average kids.

Professional racers should be fast enough, not young enough.
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1/11/2011 9:56am
Shouldn't it be up the teams to decide who they want to hire?
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1/11/2011 9:58am
No to the age limit. Yes to a maximum of 3 or 4 years in the class.
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1/11/2011 1:21pm
kawa38 wrote:
Was thinking after Hansens win at age 27.He's older than most 450 riders..What you guy's think.
YES

It will never happen but we need an entry level SX class where riders can get their feet wet on production based equipment.

Taking it one step further how cool would it be to have a 125 two stroke class sponsored by Yamaha and KTM similar to the KTM challenge?
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1/11/2011 1:24pm
Rattray is also up there 25-26? somewhere up there anyway. It almost seems like they are in the wrong class. It's hard to put an age limit on it, but definetly no more than a couple years in that class. And if you win it, you shouldnt be able to go back either.
1/11/2011 1:30pm
Let's see you get a offer to race and get a paycheck and it happens to be on a 250 or ride your own bike and go to as many races as you can? Is there a real question here? Ask Pourcel his opinion.
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1/11/2011 1:32pm
Not necessarily an age limit, but an experience limit, yes.
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No. I don't think anyone should have a time limit on their career.
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1/11/2011 1:44pm
No, remember when there were 3 classes,(125, 250 and 500) maybe a limit on 125's was a reasonable idea.

But now that there is only 2 classes it would curtail too many careers.
1/11/2011 1:47pm
GuyB wrote:
No. I don't think anyone should have a time limit on their career.
I wonder how many Championships Gaston Rahier would have to have given back?
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1/11/2011 1:52pm Edited Date/Time 1/11/2011 2:00pm
GuyB wrote:
No. I don't think anyone should have a time limit on their career.
I wonder how many Championships Gaston Rahier would have to have given back?
Maybe a size limit then. Gaston was a little guy. He rarely put his foot down.Smile

He rode in Oz a lot when I was a kid. Around '75. Beat all the locals on a stone stock RM100 - no lie.

Update: My mate tells me methanol was legal in Oz in those days and the RM Gaston was riding was setup to use it!
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1/11/2011 1:53pm
NO........may the fastest guy win....8-80 who cares......maybe you should be 24 before you can race a 450........how would that work out??????
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1/11/2011 1:54pm
GuyB wrote:
No. I don't think anyone should have a time limit on their career.
x2

All you're doing is making short careers shorter

As you force riders up, you force other riders out.
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No, some riders are better on 250 s than 450 s, a bike is a bike regardless of size! The team hire s who they think will do the best on the bike!
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1/11/2011 1:59pm
GuyB wrote:
No. I don't think anyone should have a time limit on their career.
flarider wrote:
x2

All you're doing is making short careers shorter

As you force riders up, you force other riders out.
Besides, this is one of the areas of the rule book that actaully makes sense: hence, "Pointing Out" of the Lites is what happened to Wey.

Or, is/isn't it?

By the way, Dave, WTF where YOU!? ("Where The F")

U need to be here, next-year.

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1/11/2011 1:59pm
newmann wrote:
Age limit? What about pointing out?
It's pro racing, not amateur racing.
There is no "Pro Novice" division to point out of
It's pro racing, all classes are professional classes

and again, you just make short careers shorter

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1/11/2011 2:11pm
newmann wrote:
No, as expensive as it is to compete in that class there should be no age limit. Also, it should run the full series, not regional...
No, as expensive as it is to compete in that class there should be no age limit. Also, it should run the full series, not regional.

Now the new 125cc class.....age limit and regionals!Smile
Zackly what he said!
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1/11/2011 4:40pm
newmann wrote:
No, as expensive as it is to compete in that class there should be no age limit. Also, it should run the full series, not regional...
No, as expensive as it is to compete in that class there should be no age limit. Also, it should run the full series, not regional.

Now the new 125cc class.....age limit and regionals!Smile
If lites were to run full series just think how many more guys would be left without rides. As for age limits I disagree if your fast your fast.
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1/11/2011 4:43pm
kawa38 wrote:
Was thinking after Hansens win at age 27.He's older than most 450 riders..What you guy's think.
They shouldn't have any kind of limit on the rider at all. Its professional racing for christ's sake!
If they want a "beginner" class, then put them into AX.
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1/11/2011 4:45pm Edited Date/Time 1/11/2011 4:47pm
GuyB wrote:
No. I don't think anyone should have a time limit on their career.
flarider wrote:
x2

All you're doing is making short careers shorter

As you force riders up, you force other riders out.
I don't think anyone should spend ten years in a class that was supposed to be for up and comers.

Forcing riders out would allow other riders in.

The 125 class used to be a stepping stone class but with the advent of powerhouse teams like PC, Geico, etc the time has come to make a change IMO.

Course it will never happen but SX needs another class to showcase younger riders who don't have the equipment or the skills (yet) to go up against someone like Hansen who has spent a lifetime in the 250 class. To be clear there are others aside from Hansen but am just using him as an example since he won A1.

If we weren't in the middle of the Great Recession and if people were actually buying motorcycles in large numbers we might be able to see Yamaha and KTM providing two stroke 125 machines for a 125 Challenge.

You may say I'm a dreamer....but I'm not the only one



BTW I believe both Wey and Ramsey moved up without pointing out. Some people don't shy away from a challenge.
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1/11/2011 4:49pm
should not have an age limit but if you won a tittle and are 25+ should be forced to move to the premier class.
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1/11/2011 4:53pm Edited Date/Time 1/11/2011 4:53pm
The Rock wrote:
I don't think anyone should spend ten years in a class that was supposed to be for up and comers. Forcing riders out would allow other...
I don't think anyone should spend ten years in a class that was supposed to be for up and comers.

Forcing riders out would allow other riders in.

The 125 class used to be a stepping stone class but with the advent of powerhouse teams like PC, Geico, etc the time has come to make a change IMO.

Course it will never happen but SX needs another class to showcase younger riders who don't have the equipment or the skills (yet) to go up against someone like Hansen who has spent a lifetime in the 250 class. To be clear there are others aside from Hansen but am just using him as an example since he won A1.

If we weren't in the middle of the Great Recession and if people were actually buying motorcycles in large numbers we might be able to see Yamaha and KTM providing two stroke 125 machines for a 125 Challenge.

You may say I'm a dreamer....but I'm not the only one



BTW I believe both Wey and Ramsey moved up without pointing out. Some people don't shy away from a challenge.
Don't agree with you, in the 1980's the 125 Pro class was stacked, Glover, Barnett, Wardy, O'Mara, Myerscough just to name a few, list goes on, they were in their 20's, the 125 class was far more exciting to watch then the 250 class and that class was stacked too. All it is, is a bike size, who cares if you race it forever, if you can race it and win it you deserve it.

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