Should Webb be penalized?

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I've watched the replays and can't tell if the red cross flag was out or not. Everyone else (Grant, Tomac, Peick) seemed to understand the situation and roll. Grant was in front of Webb and the 32 was right beside him.



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Andy_Greenney 1/22/2017 9:26am
1/22/2017 9:26am
Depends if the flag was out or not....you would have thought it would be pretty clear cut.
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VilloFan951 1/22/2017 9:27am
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Wow I never caught that last night I was to busy in shock of how hard ken hit the ground
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Sully22 1/22/2017 9:37am
1/22/2017 9:37am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 9:38am
when the camera man pans out a seconds from that spot you can see a guy 2 jumps before waving a white/red cross flag.
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SVT-Cobra 1/22/2017 9:46am
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Can he even be penalized? Once the results are "official" that's it right?

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Dirty Points 1/22/2017 10:05am
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SVT-Cobra wrote:
Can he even be penalized? Once the results are "official" that's it right?
Per the rulebook:
"The issuing of official results does not exempt riders who competed in the event from penalties for rules violations
determined by the Race Director following the protest period."
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F1prerun 1/22/2017 11:01am
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Red Cross flag was out the whole time. Was there in the stands with a direct view
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SVT-Cobra 1/22/2017 11:09am
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SVT-Cobra wrote:
Can he even be penalized? Once the results are "official" that's it right?
Dirty Points wrote:
[b]Per the rulebook:[/b] [i]"The issuing of official results does not exempt riders who competed in the event from penalties for rules violations determined by the Race...
Per the rulebook:
"The issuing of official results does not exempt riders who competed in the event from penalties for rules violations
determined by the Race Director following the protest period."
Thanks!
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speed_racer 1/22/2017 12:05pm
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I can't even believe this was posted, sad what people spend time on.
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Johnny Depp 1/22/2017 12:07pm
1/22/2017 12:07pm
Nice catch. What is the prescribed penalty? They sure didn't have a problem sticking to the rules with Ando.
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PTECH 1/22/2017 12:10pm
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speed_racer wrote:
I can't even believe this was posted, sad what people spend time on.
I'm not 100% sure what you're implying here, care to elaborate?
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917rider 1/22/2017 12:14pm
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I posted this earlier, looked like Marvin did the same thing right in front of web
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mxbrian15 1/22/2017 12:18pm
1/22/2017 12:18pm
speed_racer wrote:
I can't even believe this was posted, sad what people spend time on.
I can't believe you responded to this thread. Sad what you spend your time on.

Com'on man...
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Moto520 1/22/2017 12:25pm
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speed_racer wrote:
I can't even believe this was posted, sad what people spend time on.
I think it's legit to question this.
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brewrabb 1/22/2017 12:29pm
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The race should have been red flagged considering the area of the crash.
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JW381 1/22/2017 12:32pm
1/22/2017 12:32pm
speed_racer wrote:
I can't even believe this was posted, sad what people spend time on.
Sarcasm?
Dan-The-Man 1/22/2017 12:43pm
1/22/2017 12:43pm
brewrabb wrote:
The race should have been red flagged considering the area of the crash.
I thought this myself. Seemed pretty weird to let it go.
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motomx88 1/22/2017 12:51pm
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brewrabb wrote:
The race should have been red flagged considering the area of the crash.
I kept looking up at the time on the finish line and was wondering if they were going to red flag it. Not a good place to be down. I still think they should have.
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Jspazz 1/22/2017 1:07pm
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speed_racer wrote:
I can't even believe this was posted, sad what people spend time on.
Obviously you missed some rounds last year

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KirkChandler 1/22/2017 1:22pm
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Several guys doubled out of that section multiple times with the Red Cross flag flying.

Just more double standards to the rule book. Dungey gets a win taken away last year for jumping on a Red Cross flag while others don't get punished at all.
TransMotoSport 1/22/2017 1:30pm
1/22/2017 1:30pm
Not sure whether Web should be penalised, But check out 722 in the LCQ start. Lines up on the outside, enters first turn near last, goes straight through the corner misses the first lane, rhythm section, and is in second next time the camera picks him up, half a lap later. Something needs to be done in messing up and missing a lane or deliberately missing a lane with no penalty or loss of place, in this case making up 20 places.
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KirkChandler 1/22/2017 1:35pm
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TransMotoSport wrote:
Not sure whether Web should be penalised, But check out 722 in the LCQ start. Lines up on the outside, enters first turn near last, goes...
Not sure whether Web should be penalised, But check out 722 in the LCQ start. Lines up on the outside, enters first turn near last, goes straight through the corner misses the first lane, rhythm section, and is in second next time the camera picks him up, half a lap later. Something needs to be done in messing up and missing a lane or deliberately missing a lane with no penalty or loss of place, in this case making up 20 places.
Could that have been his brother on the #723? They look alike on the bike.
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NVA57 1/22/2017 1:38pm
1/22/2017 1:38pm
Yep that was 723 on the outside not 722.
Dirty Points 1/22/2017 1:48pm
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Johnny Depp wrote:
Nice catch. What is the prescribed penalty? They sure didn't have a problem sticking to the rules with Ando.
c. During a main event race, if no positions were gained, the penalty will be the points and purse equal to two positions in the final results for that race plus two additional points.

d. During a main event race, if any positions are gained, the loss of number of positions gained plus the points and purse equal to two additional positions in the final results for that race, plus two additional points."
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joeellis 1/22/2017 3:43pm
1/22/2017 3:43pm
If multiple people did this as stated here, the flags may have been seen too late by these riders is my honest guess.
Crisp BRAAAP! 1/22/2017 6:03pm
1/22/2017 6:03pm
Right after the crash, the guy with the red cross flag ran over to look at Roczen. I was yelling at him through the TV. He then realized he was screwing up and ran out in front and started waving the flag. I am not sure where Webb was in all this, but he might have come through when the guy wasn't waving it.
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mx836 1/22/2017 6:10pm
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speed_racer wrote:
I can't even believe this was posted, sad what people spend time on.
mxbrian15 wrote:
I can't believe you responded to this thread. Sad what you spend your time on.

Com'on man...
It's really no different than football fans discussing a no call on a penalty like pass interference for example. By the looks of it, Cooper broke the rule gaining an advantage and should have been penalized. That's the rules and they are in place for a reason. I'm all about breaking rules, but you've gotta pay the consequences.
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Flip109 1/22/2017 6:13pm
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Maybe he thought it was safer to jump over the situation than ride through it? Lol

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